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Marymog

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Yes, it is obvious the it makes no sense to you. But if God says, "I am", do you not understand? Because I said "Truth is", which is the same thing, only applied to your issue of who to believe. I was trying to help.

So, then, I have only to conclude that you don't like input from me, or from God. In which case, we will leave you alone.
You make ZERO sense.

WE will leave you alone? Are there two of you talking to me? Do you consult with a mouse in your pocket before you respond to me?

Input from you OR from God? Are you relaying a message from Him to me?

You didn't even answer my question: Has God hid The Truth from us for 2,000 years???????

You have me very confused.

Confused Mary
 
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Hi, sorry about the length, but you asked. It's not easy to put such big things into few words. Are you saying that we don't need the real presence of Him? That all we need is a temple, a priest and the scriptures? How is anyone saved, without having the presence in us ( and us In Him ), what did He die for then, if we are supposedly still as far from His actual presence we always were ?
I am not telling you that you have to believe me, I am trying to share that each of us, you included ought to seek the presence, receive it, and then you get to ask HIM and get answers from HIM, instead of humans, who we can't trust for all the truth all of the time, and thus we get really easy to deceive.
Yes He is always the same, but He can reach us in a million different ways, whether we are believers or not, as it turned out. Don't believe me, believe Him ! We all need that actual assurance in order to become like Him. He says that those of the truth, will recognize the truth when they hear it ( when they are born anew of The Spirit ).
Just do exactly as He said :" Ask, seek and knock." Not something you do to a book. Seek His face :)

Dear Pia,

His real presence is with us in communion: This is my body. This is my blood. You must eat my body and blood to have life in you.

I did get the answer from Him. I don't believe you. I believe Him and He said you are wrong.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT: You didn't answer my question. Who is right? The five people who had a dream of Jesus and He told THEM the truth OR is your dream of Jesus with YOUR TRUTH right?

Only one of you can be right.

Curious Mary
 

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I take that back - it was MILLIONS, and now there is a book about it.

Just throwing Jesus back'atcha.

ScottA,

You make absolutely zero sense. Surely you have to realize that? Don't you?
 

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My dear Job,

I agree with you. He was teaching them NOT TO BE HYPOCRITES.

To REBUKE someone is to express sharp disapproval or criticism of someone because of their behavior or actions. The action of PRAYING IN PUBLIC was rebuked by Jesus. He called people that do that HYPOCRITES.

Mary

You didn't have your ducks in a row Mary.

You said He was rebuking people for praying in public Mary. You should delete that error. It's not one of your better posts. It reminds me of something a new convert would say. Are you a new convert Mary?

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You didn't have your ducks in a row Mary.

You said He was rebuking people for praying in public Mary. You should delete that error. It's not one of your better posts. It reminds me of something a new convert would say. Are you a new convert Mary?

Dear Job,

Please enlighten me.

What was Jesus teaching them about praying in public?

Curious Mary
 

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Dear Pia,

His real presence is with us in communion: This is my body. This is my blood. You must eat my body and blood to have life in you.

I did get the answer from Him. I don't believe you. I believe Him and He said you are wrong.

THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT: You didn't answer my question. Who is right? The five people who had a dream of Jesus and He told THEM the truth OR is your dream of Jesus with YOUR TRUTH right?

Only one of you can be right.

Curious Mary
You can only follow after your own heart. My communion is with His person, and with others I share the more traditional Bread and Wine. Indeed I have broken bread and had a sip of wine in His honor many times with just myself at home, and with my kids..
You don't have to believe me, you don't HAVE to do anything.......Jesus said :" The work YOU are given to do is to BELIEVE." So just believe Him, you should be fine.
All the best love :)
 

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Since you don't seem to know Christ - I'll explain a thing or two . .
You cannot be saved while rejecting His Church.
No one here rejecting His churhc just yours, something that seems to upset you. Find me sorry us, one place in teh bible that says you must be a "catholic: to be saved, in fact no where in teh NT does Jesus say you have to belong to His Church to be saved, as I said,

It is by grace we are saved, are you going to take up a fight with Jesus, seems thats all you do,

Act_9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
 

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ScottA.........I think your advice is great, there is no point in it with someone who is closed off to the actual reality and /or simply hasn't had that experience and therefore as Jesus said:" Father forgive them for they know not what they do.". I have read many of your posts and you certainly have Godly wisdom in you....Thank you for sharing :)
 
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You lost that round Mary. Let it go.
Translation: I have no logical or legitimate answer to your question Mary that means you lost that round. I, the great Job, always win.

Let it go Mary because you have embarrassed me.

Good job, Job!! Real stand up man, aren't you?

Love.....Mary
 

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ScottA.........I think your advice is great, there is no point in it with someone who is closed off to the actual reality and /or simply hasn't had that experience and therefore as Jesus said:" Father forgive them for they know not what they do.". I have read many of your posts and you certainly have Godly wisdom in you....Thank you for sharing :)
Pia,

How do you know you are not closed off to the actual reality of Jesus? Why is everyone else but you closed off?

Maybe God is talking to you and ScottA when He said forgive them for they know not what they do?

Scripture talks about men who twist scripture. Do you twist it or do I? How do you know?

How do you KNOW you are right and everyone else is wrong?

Curious Mary
 

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I, the great Job, always win.

Good job, Job!! Real stand up man, aren't you?

I'm so glad you noticed. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Like being hugged by a big soft puppy.
 
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Pia,

How do you know you are not closed off to the actual reality of Jesus? Why is everyone else but you closed off?

Maybe God is talking to you and ScottA when He said forgive them for they know not what they do?

Scripture talks about men who twist scripture. Do you twist it or do I? How do you know?

How do you KNOW you are right and everyone else is wrong?

Curious Mary
I just know Him...I don't know what you want from me. You are , as is everyone else, just as capable of receiving from Him, as I did and do.... surely you can't seriously think I am the only one He has done this with...No, NO ! Jesus said :" WHOSOEVER will come to me." So will you ?
Mary you say you are curious, but you are trying to browbeat me, so please can we drop this now, and I don't need you to correct Jesus for me, thanks anyway.......have a nice one
 

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No one here rejecting His churhc just yours, something that seems to upset you. Find me sorry us, one place in teh bible that says you must be a "catholic: to be saved, in fact no where in teh NT does Jesus say you have to belong to His Church to be saved, as I said,

It is by grace we are saved, are you going to take up a fight with Jesus, seems thats all you do,

Act_9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
Sooooo, you DON'T think you have to be part of His Church??
That's NOT what Scripture says:

Col. 1:18
And he is the HEAD of the BODY, the CHURCH; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.

The Church is the FULLNESS of Christ (Eph. 1:22-23).

Oh - by the way - In Acts 9:4-5, Jesus asked Saul why he was persecuting HIM. Saul was persecuting the Church, which Jesus equates with His very SELF in this passage.

If you're not part of the Body, the Church - then you're NOT part of Christ.
 

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I'm so glad you noticed. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Like being hugged by a big soft puppy.
Best response EVER ! Thanks so much, I really needed a good all the way through belly laugh. Thank you Sir..... :)
 
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Col. 1:18
And he is the HEAD of the BODY, the CHURCH; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
Yes His church not yours that you insist on forcing everyone into at pain of death, in fact many will make it to Heaven on there death bed, no need to partake in mens false religions that make men like you so angry because we choose Christ. We are in His Church because we belong to Him, you are a catholic because you belong to the catholic Church which cannot and will never save anyone, why is it a problem to you that Jesus does not need your religion to save anyone, He did it with the thief on the cross, before you religion was even a bad thought in the minds of men.

By grace you are saved, what do you think will save you???
 

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The Church is the FULLNESS of Christ (Eph. 1:22-23).
Your church certainly is not even you have stated is as bad as the rest. Do you really think Jesus will allow, cardinal drug dealers and cardinals who commit sodimy and priests who rape children into His church, who do you think Jesus is???
 

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Your church certainly is not even you have stated is as bad as the rest. Do you really think Jesus will allow, cardinal drug dealers and cardinals who commit sodimy and priests who rape children into His church, who do you think Jesus is???
Bravo.....People who SWEAR by their institutions totally forget who the people are that they listen to and let control their lives. Certainly NOT the way Jesus made into be. Great posts on this subject all around. Good on you for your patience in trying, another sign of maturity in Christ.........:)