Do you looking forward for the Lord Jesus return ?

[ScottA]

Did you know that when you hope for the speedy return of Christ, you are by default hoping for the destruction of countless multitudes of nonbelievers. You're basically hoping for the destruction of all mankind.

I understand your concern. But I have no concern that God is in complete control over the fate of all people. "Even so, come Lord Jesus."

 

[Job]

Boom Baby there it is. Sweet

You don't get it either.

But then I'm not surprised.

o

 

[Job]

I understand your concern. But I have no concern that God is in complete control over the fate of all people. "Even so, come Lord Jesus."

I hope you live long enough to see that day come.

o

 

[ScottA]

And that's why I'm a hairs breath away from putting him on ignore. If he wants to pretend like he doesn't know what I'm referring to, then he can play that game with someone else. No, he is not among us, his physical presence is with the Father in heaven. The "Jesus is with us" clowns can't have it both ways. Either the holy spirit is with them, or its Jesus. Two plus two must always equal four.

You can ignore me, but the Truth shall not be hidden...and you have not presented the truth. You make accusation of the very thing you yourself do, picking and choosing only those verses which you prefer, and calling names against any who call you on it. Which you cannot give an answer to.

 

[ScottA]

I hope you live long enough to see that day come.

o

I have seen it come already, from the very first day.

But if you will give credence to one who cannot reconcile his claims with the whole word of God, perhaps you should share what it is you see in his claim that you believe has evaded the rest of us.

 

[ScottA]

"Christ in us" is not the same as the physical presence of Christ.

You do understand that...........right?

o

I do. But what is your point?

 

[Dcopymope]

You can ignore me, but the Truth shall not be hidden...and you have not presented the truth. You make accusation of the very thing you yourself do, picking and choosing only those verses which you prefer, and calling names against any who call you on it. Which you cannot give an answer to.

You already got your answer from the Lords own words, presented in full, and not simple one liner's. You "Jesus is in us and with us" creatures can't reconcile this belief with his actual presence. I'll ask this simple question, if you cannot answer truthfully, you're going on ignore. What is the physical location of Jesus Christ according to the whole of scripture?

 

[Job]

you should share what it is you see in his claim that you believe has evaded the rest of us.

You believe the 2nd coming of Christ has already taken place so it wouldn't matter what I said.

k

 

[Dcopymope]

You believe the 2nd coming of Christ has already taken place so it wouldn't matter what I said.

k

Ha!!! Apparently not

 

[Helen]

Did you know that when you hope for the speedy return of Christ, you are by default hoping for the destruction of countless multitudes of nonbelievers. You're basically hoping for the destruction of all mankind.

IF that is what you believe...I don't!
There must be first the Day of Judgement before any distruction that you speak about.
Do you really believe in a destruction of those who never 'heard'?
Or those who heard , but did not understand.
Or those, who like those Paul came across, who worshiped the "Unknown god"...and Paul tells them who He really is?
I don't believe in 'destruction'...I believe in punishment and correction.
And most of all, I don't believe in an angry God...He poured our His wrath and anger upon sin, at the cross, on the Spotless Perfect Sacrifice.
Just saying. :)

 

[ScottA]

You believe the 2nd coming of Christ has already taken place so it wouldn't matter what I said.

k

I do not believe, but know, that Christ has come again [to me] and therefore it is my testimony, "that Christ has come in the flesh." I also believe that He has come to many others just as Paul said, "each in his own order", for I have seen Him in them. This I do, because I "see Him as He is."

So, no, it doesn't matter what you say. But it does indicate to me that He has not come in to you, and that your knowledge of Him is academic and by faith - for which I applaud you. But there is more, therefore, I recommend you make room, and receive Him when He comes.

 

[ScottA]

You already got your answer from the Lords own words, presented in full, and not simple one liner's. You "Jesus is in us and with us" creatures can't reconcile this belief with his actual presence. I'll ask this simple question, if you cannot answer truthfully, you're going on ignore. What is the physical location of Jesus Christ according to the whole of scripture?

Since you have qualified and limited your own question to that which is only "physical", that is how I will answer:

Ecclesiastes 12:7
Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it.

 

[Dcopymope]

Since you have qualified and limited your own question to that which is only "physical", that is how I will answer:

Ecclesiastes 12:7
Then the dust will return to the earth as it was, And the spirit will return to God who gave it.

Oh, so I take it you are implying that Jesus Christ didn't bodily rise from the tomb?

 

[ScottA]

Oh, so I take it you are implying that Jesus Christ didn't bodily rise from the tomb?

Not at all. He rose bodily from the dead that men could see that He had overcome death and the world.

But that is only what happened in the world.

Please continue...

 

[Dcopymope]

Not at all. He rose bodily from the dead that men could see that He had overcome death and the world.

But that is only what happened in the world.

Please continue...

No, please do continue with whatever point you are trying to make with this one liner, because you still haven't answered the damn question. Is Jesus standing beside you right now in bodily form or not? Is he sitting at the right hand of the Father or is he walking among us?

 

[Helen]

Yes,... to all three. Glorified .

 

[Dcopymope]

Yes,... to all three. Glorified .

There is only one Jesus, so there can be only one answer, not three.

(Matthew 24:24-28) "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. {25} Behold, I have told you before. {26} Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. {27} For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. {28} For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together."

 

[ScottA]

No, please do continue with whatever point you are trying to make with this one liner, because you still haven't answered the damn question. Is Jesus standing beside you right now in bodily form or not? Is he sitting at the right hand of the Father or is he walking among us?

You obviously are perturbed and do not understand. You speak as one bound to the physical, having some disregard for the spiritual.

But what I say, I will say to all, things you should have known: "God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

Why then do you ask for Christ's "physical location" when He has gone to the Father? And why do you ask where He is now after all this time, when He said, “Surely I am coming quickly?"

...Did you hope to catch me saying He is with me when He is not, or claiming He is in two places at one time, or that He is my imaginary friend, as if crazy?

I have explained myself in accordance with the word of God. But you have not explained yourself, nor even your motive.

Please explain yourself. After which I am happy to continue - but not if you will not reveal your own reason for not referring to the spirit, but to the "physical" only.

Step into the Light.

 

[Helen]

1)Is Jesus standing beside you right now in bodily form or not?
2)Is he sitting at the right hand of the Father or
3) is he walking among us?

THREE...There is one Jesus the man that walked this earth...for the 33 yrs He was here.
Yet Christ was "before the foundation of the world.."
He was after. Revelation paints a picture the Glorified Lord Jesus Christ.

Rev 1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass;.."
... I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. I turned and saw...
And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead."

It seems that the great majority of Christian believe that there is only the "Jesus" who lived and walked upon the earth, and wore sandals.

HE SAYS that He is with us, HE SAYS He is in us, He says He is sitting at the right hand of the Father.

YES..all three.

Forums are fun aren't they! :)

 

[ScottA]

THREE...There is one Jesus the man that walked this earth...for the 33 yrs He was here.
Yet Christ was "before the foundation of the world.."
He was after. Revelation paints a picture the Glorified Lord Jesus Christ.

Rev 1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass;.."
... I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. I turned and saw...
And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead."

It seems that the great majority of Christian believe that there is only the "Jesus" who lived and walked upon the earth, and wore sandals.

HE SAYS that He is with us, HE SAYS He is in us, He says He is sitting at the right hand of the Father.

YES..all three.

Forums are fun aren't they! :)

The same yesterday, today, and forever. 1-2-3 :)