Do you looking forward for the Lord Jesus return ?

[Dcopymope]

HE SAYS that He is with us, HE SAYS He is in us, He says He is sitting at the right hand of the Father.

YES..all three.

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With us in spirit, as in the holy spirit, or actually WITH US? If its the latter, then he isn't with the Father. You can't have it both ways. There is only one Jesus. I don't deal in metaphors, I deal in absolutes, because that's what my faith is built on. You believe that he is present, I on the other hand, will do what Jesus told me to do. Anyone claiming he is among us, somewhere, in a cave, in the tree's, in someones basement, whatever, I will dismiss, unless I be deceived.

 

[101G]

"HE SAYS that He is with us, HE SAYS He is in us, He says He is sitting at the right hand of the Father".

YES..all three".

Not to make an argument, but edification. I curious as to what people are thinking when they say "sitting at the RIGHT HAND" means.
open floor.

 

[Dcopymope]

"HE SAYS that He is with us, HE SAYS He is in us, He says He is sitting at the right hand of the Father".

YES..all three".

Not to make an argument, but edification. I curious as to what people are thinking when they say "sitting at the RIGHT HAND" means.
open floor.

Would you rather be on his left hand, with the goats that get tossed into the fire? As far I can tell, that's what sitting at his right hand means, and woe to those who aren't when the time comes.

 

[ScottA]

"HE SAYS that He is with us, HE SAYS He is in us, He says He is sitting at the right hand of the Father".

YES..all three".

Not to make an argument, but edification. I curious as to what people are thinking when they say "sitting at the RIGHT HAND" means.
open floor.

Good question. But it sounds like another topic for another thread.

 

[Helen]

With us in spirit, as in the holy spirit, or actually WITH US? If its the latter, then he isn't with the Father. You can't have it both ways. There is only one Jesus. I don't deal in metaphors,

Whatever you say....I wont argue.
HE IS GOD...He is Omnipresent ..."If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea...."

You must cary on believing what you believe, and bless you.
I will continue in believing that Christ Jesus is God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace, and the government shall be on His shoulder.... and He is everywhere.
He has no limits.
Each to our own..
Then we will both be happy. :)

 

[101G]

Would you rather be on his left hand, with the goats that get tossed into the fire? As far I can tell, that's what sitting at his right hand means, and woe to those who aren't when the time comes.

Let me get my Holy Jeopardy button out for this one. BUZZZZZZZZZZ no error.

Good question. But it sounds like another topic for another thread.

No need for another thread, right hand of God, or God's right hand is a metaphor for the omnipotence of God. meaning the POWER of God, and the Lord Jesus is that power, 1 Corinthians 1:24 "But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God". so how can he be actual sitting next, when he is it.

 

[101G]

people understand, God is a Spirit, arm, hand ect... are anthropomorphic descriptions.

 

[Dcopymope]

Whatever you say....I wont argue.
HE IS GOD...He is Omnipresent ..."If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there. If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea...."

You must cary on believing what you believe, and bless you.
I will continue in believing that Christ Jesus is God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace, and the government shall be on His shoulder.... and He is everywhere.
He has no limits.
Each to our own..
Then we will both be happy. :)

*sigh*, Yet again, I deal in absolutes with my faith, even on his omnipresence. He's not everywhere present as if he's some invisible blob encompassing all of creation. He is everywhere present as in he see's all from his throne in heaven. The way some of you explain the nature and character of God wouldn't hold water if you were trying to give explanations to a hardcore Bible scoffing atheist. I know, because I tried.

(Psalms 33:13-18) "The LORD looketh from heaven; he beholdeth all the sons of men. {14} From the place of his habitation he looketh upon all the inhabitants of the earth. {15} He fashioneth their hearts alike; he considereth all their works. {16} There is no king saved by the multitude of an host: a mighty man is not delivered by much strength. {17} An horse is a vain thing for safety: neither shall he deliver any by his great strength. {18} Behold, the eye of the LORD is upon them that fear him, upon them that hope in his mercy;"

(Isaiah 66:1-2) "Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest? {2} For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word."

 

[101G]

maybe some might not understand. the right hand, or the arm of God is GOD. scripture, Isaiah 63:5 "And I looked, and there was none to help; and I wondered that there was none to uphold: therefore mine own arm brought salvation unto me; and my fury, it upheld me". question is your "OWN" are a separate person from you?. NO.

 

[101G]

*sigh*, Yet again, I deal in absolutes with my faith, even on his omnipresence. He's not everywhere present as if he's some invisible blob encompassing all of creation. He is everywhere present as in he see's all from his throne in heaven. The way some of you explain the nature and character of God wouldn't hold water if you were trying to give explanations to a hardcore Bible scoffing athiest. I know, because I tried.

I have a question for you, "Can you see God" if not then you don't know where he is. but to be correct, Jeremiah 23:23 "Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off? 24 Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD". one must understand that this is "HIS" creation, everything, and he's in control of it.

 

[Dcopymope]

I have a question for you, "Can you see God" if not then you don't know where he is. but to be correct, Jeremiah 23:23 "Am I a God at hand, saith the LORD, and not a God afar off? 24 Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD". one must understand that this is "HIS" creation, everything, and he's in control of it.

What does his control over his creation have to do with his location? Nothing in fact. If you take one verse out of context, it gets thrown into the realm of eastern mysticism, the silly white bearded man in the sky definition, which is how many Christians define God's omnipresence. He fills heaven and earth............from his throne. Do I actually know where that is? Well, I know it ain't earth, the sky (first heaven) or space (second heaven), but he is everywhere present from a place beyond we can imagine. The Bible makes it very clear that his location isn't some undefined blob out there somewhere over everything we see.

 

[101G]

What does his control over his creation have to do with his location? Nothing in fact.

#1. Ignorant answer, oh well. everything is "IN" him, Acts 17:28 "For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring".

from his throne. Do I actually know where that is? Well, I know it ain't earth

#2. earth is his footstool.... LOL...LOL...LOL. how Ignorant can one get.

Well, I know it ain't earth, the sky (first heaven) or space (second heaven), but he is everywhere present from a place beyond we can imagine. The Bible makes it very clear that his location isn't some undefined blob out there somewhere over everything we see.

#3. you know?, try over the rainbow......... (smile)... LOL.

 

[ScottA]

*sigh*, Yet again, I deal in absolutes with my faith, even on his omnipresence. He's not everywhere present as if he's some invisible blob encompassing all of creation. He is everywhere present as in he see's all from his throne in heaven. The way some of you explain the nature and character of God wouldn't hold water if you were trying to give explanations to a hardcore Bible scoffing atheist. I know, because I tried.

You have not responded to why you have aligned with the "physical", so I will assume that your position of world-like "absolutes" is your issue: That you cannot see Christ being in two places, so you believe that it is impossible, based on you own understanding.

But you are not conversing with atheists. (perhaps we are)

But I will humor you.

Answer me this: If "the kingdom of God is within you", where is Christ?

 

[101G]

Answer me this: If "the kingdom of God is within you", where is Christ?

Scott, while you're waiting for your answer from Dcopymope, I would like to put somthing on the floor about Christ location also, anyone can answer it. Scripture, 1 Corinthians 10:2 "And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ”. in location, was Christ the ROCK, the Lord Jesus in the O.T. with flesh, bone, and blood yes or No?.

 

[Dcopymope]

You have not responded to why you have aligned with the "physical", so I will assume that your position of world-like "absolutes" is your issue: That you cannot see Christ being in two places, so you believe that it is impossible, based on you own understanding.

But you are not conversing with atheists. (perhaps we are)

But I will humor you.

Answer me this: If "the kingdom of God is within you", where is Christ?

Already answered that multiple times. The Jesus Christ I know of from the Bible is at the right hand of the Father in heaven. At no point does it say he can exist apart from himself at any given time. You gonna ask the same question again?

 

[101G]

The Jesus Christ I know of from the Bible is at the right hand of the Father in heaven. At no point does it say he can exist apart from himself at any given time.

Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God":
Dcopymope, is this one person or two person, mind you before you answer, read Isaiah 40:25 and Isaiah 46:5. I'll be waiting for your answer.

 

[Dcopymope]

Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God":
Dcopymope, is this one person or two person, mind you before you answer, read Isaiah 40:25 and Isaiah 46:5. I'll be waiting for your answer.

He is his only begotten son, the only thing in existence that came from the belly of the Father. That is what being equal with God means. In other words, yes, this is one person of the God head.

 

[101G]

He is his only begotten son

Hold it right there, for I have a couple of question for you. #1. you said that "he", meaning the FATHER, right, scripture, Matthew 1:19-22 "Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. 20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins". now Dcopymope who is the FATHER of that child? answer the one who conceived right, so who is the actual FATHER of that only begotten?, read verse 20 again and tell us who is the ACTUAL FATHER of that Child. and that answer will put away all that nonsense about who the FATHER REALLY IS.

 

[101G]

Dcopymope, there's no math involved here, the scriptures are clear and straight forward. so your answer please.

 

[Dcopymope]

Hold it right there, for I have a couple of question for you. #1. you said that "he", meaning the FATHER, right, scripture, Matthew 1:19-22 "Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. 20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins". now Dcopymope who is the FATHER of that child? answer the one who conceived right, so who is the actual FATHER of that only begotten?, read verse 20 again and tell us who is the ACTUAL FATHER of that Child. and that answer will put away all that nonsense about who the FATHER REALLY IS.

The Father of that child is the same Father that sent the Holy Spirit to begin with.......who also, henceforth sent Jesus. Are you trying to say the Father sent himself? If so, that would make the Father begotten, which contradicts all scripture stating the Father is begotten of nothing. Before that child was conceived in the womb of Mary, he had to come from the womb of the Father who spoke it, or begot it, him, Jesus being the word, separate yet equal.