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Wasn't just a vision, at one point I was leaning against Him, He looked like a fairly normal person, (But He had given me the understanding of who he was/is) except it was as if He was standing in sunshine all the time, whereas it was a dark room and the middle of the night...well you say that, but i have to believe that you saw a vision of Christ because that is what reflects your heart, what you were seeking, whether it was by name or not, even just as a concept, a la Saul/Paul.
I agree, we do have spirits within us..But I also believe other beings who were never born according to blood and water, but only made as spirits, exist.....oh, stop. You are the spirit realm, and as a mother you are surely more sensitive to it than many. You 'kept the peace' among your kids, you created the spirit of Christmas and other holidays, and it was you who protected the sensibilities of one child when another was being oblivious to them. right? That is the spirit realm.
I was like 30 before i realized the effect i was having on a room; Why i didn't learn that as a kid i don't know, but when i did learn it it came with the understanding that that is spirit, that part of a person that either clears a room or maybe fills it up, and near as i can tell the first one is mostly unconscious while the second one is conscious, although people seem to be on a sliding scale there too
Plato would agree.I agree, we do have spirits within us..But I also believe other beings who were never born according to blood and water, but only made as spirits, exist.....
ha, it is a description of Churchianity, or what happens to hypocrites "seeking" Christ from fear of hell, to save their own skin iow, or, how else to put it...a description of a perfectly normal, mundane process that pretty much everyone goes through in "church," where despite all proclamations to the contrary, Law and Sin are front and center, hence the seven worse demons. Imo
i certainly agree, i remember one a best friend's mother made...or rather i don't remember, lol, i've forgotten it now, some really nice thing she did at her house, a simple thing, didn't think i'd ever forget it, hmm. The point being maybe that yes, we have a spirit within us, but we can also project a spirit without, that is as real as any other spirit, and is equally "us."I agree, we do have spirits within us..But I also believe other beings who were never born according to blood and water, but only made as spirits, exist.....
Hey 'bbyrd' sorry can you please make that a little clearer for me ? I think mankind forgets that it is our spirits that were created in the image ( spirit as our Father ) and likeness ( His character, and way of being ) of our Father, and then clothed with flesh, for the single purpose to be able to condemn sin to the flesh, that our spirits might be saved....Are they ensouled? No, i don't think so.
Ah yes lol...Now I'm with you...It is astonishing, is it not ? That the very thing we are told we are saved from becoming the most bitterly contested Truth from our Lord.....Not good !ha, it is a description of Churchianity, or what happens to hypocrites "seeking" Christ from fear of hell, to save their own skin iow, or, how else to put it...a description of a perfectly normal, mundane process that pretty much everyone goes through in "church," where despite all proclamations to the contrary, Law and Sin are front and center, hence the seven worse demons. Imo
hmm. Be better if i thought about this one for a minute first--actually what i have to do is stop thinking and go pull weeds or something lol--but i would like to begin here by pointing out that you create spirits all the time, ok, and they are "being," therefore they are beings, yes, but they are not ensouled, they do not have personalities, or opinions on other matters, etc.but I also believe that other beings were created as ONLY spirits, thus there would be no remedy for them, if they turned their backs on God, UNLIKE US...
Are we in agreement on this point? If not please could you write a little of what you believe ?
ya, i guess the word "sanctimonious" comes from this? But even someone practicing humility has to deal with the pride some new understanding brings, i think? Maybe not everyone, dunno.Ah yes lol...Now I'm with you...It is astonishing, is it not ? That the very thing we are told we are saved from becoming the most bitterly contested Truth from our Lord.....Not good !
I do see what you're saying here, and there is certainly something to that.....we influence everything around us by our thought, words and deeds, as well as the people around us.....But I mean a different kind, I think you have realized.hmm. Be better if i thought about this one for a minute first--actually what i have to do is stop thinking and go pull weeds or something lol--but i would like to begin here by pointing out that you create spirits all the time, ok, and they are "being," therefore they are beings, yes, but they are not ensouled, they do not have personalities, or opinions on other matters, etc.
People anthropomorphize, or personify satan, or Michael, etc, because they are named, but you name spirits all the time, too, you "take the temperature of a room," or recognize when a movement has "gotten a life of its own," or you maybe "created a monster," etc. These are all much more valid perspectives than the religious ones about spirits, at least imo, and in my experience this makes deciphering some thorny Scripture quite a bit more understandable.
It is that they SAY to Jesus, that they are aware that He is The Son of God, and they ask Him not to torment them before their time, which He then agrees to......If they were merely manifestations of ourselves, how could this have been so ?
you might note that you were taught this "different kind," but you cannot observe them directly, right.But I mean a different kind
i'd like to suggest that we were raised to revere the Bible, worship it really, and trained to read It as a literal history.If they were merely manifestations of ourselves, how could this have been so ?
hmm, i have heard of seven different beasts representing sins ha, zing, do we live in a miracle or what, who can even lie anymore lol." A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;" Ecc 3:3
The time to kill is now for you and I, and what is it we are to kill?
"Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars:
She hath killed her beasts; she hath mingled her wine; she hath also furnished her table." Prov 9:1-2
ya, i thought that was maybe apocryphal, i wonder if the seven deadly sins can be related to the admonishments to the Seven Churches? hmm@bbyrd009
Well God's number according to many is seven. See seven spirits of Rev 3:1 relating to Isaiah 11:2.
I don't know about the reverse for man's number, for his number, at least after he sinned, is six. I suspect that the ideas of seven different beasts and sins comes from a source other than God. The Book of Revelation speaks of 4 beasts, not seven or even six. Maybe someone else will be able to tie the four in...
The Seven Churches is where God is working to bring them up to snuff so from them He can take out His Bride who is to be not only virgin but completely undefiled and ready for the Bridegroom [Jesus].