Boycott the NFL

[Stranger]

Black people are refusing to stand for the anthem to protest police brutality. It is a clear and simple protest.

Blacks are refusing to stand to dishonor the flag, country, and anthem, in order to push their racist beliefs.

Indeed, it was a clear and simple protest.

Stranger

 

[Job]

Ive already given several examples

1. White people are considered innocent until proven guilty - people of color are not.
2. White people are given the benefit of the doubt - people of color are not.
3. White people do not have to think about their race - people of color have to think about it all the time
4. White people benefit from social norms - people of color have to fit into social norms
5. White people are generally not feared, people of color are feared
6. White people are generally ignored by law enforcement (unless they are homeless or mentally ill) people of color are considered suspects at large.
7. White people are considered to be competent and hard working; people of color are considered to be uneducated, poor communicators, and lazy.
8. White people would be hired and admitted to colleges before people of color if it was not illegal to discriminate because people of color are considered inferior workers and students according to Cultural norms and tests created by white people for white people.

None of these are true.

 

[aspen]

See. You said you were for equality. But your not. Your for what benefits your race. Affirmative Action is not equality. It is preferential treatment. And that is what you and blacks want. Preferential treatment.

I dont mind your racism. I mind your saying on one hand you are for equality, but then on the other hand you are not. Your a racist as much as I or anyone else.

But at this stage, you and others are also a hypocrite. You see only the white man as a racist.

Stranger

Yes. I see you are the type of person that believes corrective lenses are preferential treatment. People get what they deserve and we should consume those less fortunate or ‘less blessed’ by God, perhaps?

There were people who believed that the sick and blind were cursed by God for their sin too - it is nothing new. Of course, Jesus spoke out against it then and we are supposed to speak out against it now, but that doesnt seem to be part of your Christianity. Apparently, Ayn Rand is your model rather than Christ. Got it

We disagree.

 

[aspen]

None of these are true.

Based on what evidence?

 

[Stranger]

Yes. I see you are the type of person that believes corrective lenses are preferential treatment. People get what they deserve and we should consume those less fortunate or ‘less blessed’ by God, perhaps?

There were people who believed that the sick and blind were cursed by God for their sin too - it is nothing new. Of course, Jesus spoke out against it then and we are supposed to speak out against it now, but that doesnt seem to be part of your Christianity. Apparently, Ayn Rand is your model rather than Christ. Got it

We disagree.

We disagree because you are a two faced liar. You say you are for equality. But that is a lie. You are for the black people irregardless of how you can present it.

So, you 'present it' as 'affirmative action'. Sounds so good. But it is just black racism. Preferential treatment over the whites. Oh yeah, that is equality, isn't it. No. That is black bs.

You are shown to be a liar and hypocrite. Your race is the same. And you are proof of it. Affirmative Action is racism agaisnt the white people.

Stranger

 

[aspen]

We disagree because you are a two faced liar. You say you are for equality. But that is a lie. You are for the black people irregardless of how you can present it.

So, you 'present it' as 'affirmative action'. Sounds so good. But it is just black racism. Preferential treatment over the whites. Oh yeah, that is equality, isn't it. No. That is black bs.

You are shown to be a liar and hypocrite. Your race is the same. And you are proof of it. Affirmative Action is racism agaisnt the white people.

Stranger

Keep reframing it. We are see you for what you are.

You refuse to play on a level playing field. You want your advantages and you will deny and deny and deny that you have them.

 

[Job]

Based on what evidence?

Would you like to go over your list 1 by 1?

 

[aspen]

Would you like to go over your list 1 by 1?

Sure

 

[Job]

1. White people are considered innocent until proven guilty - people of color are not.

If people of color are considered guilty, why do they go to trial?

If whites are considered innocent until proven guilty, why are they in jail until their trial date? It happens all the time.

 

[aspen]

1. White people are considered innocent until proven guilty - people of color are not.

If people of color are considered guilty, why do they go to trial?

If whites are considered innocent until proven guilty, why are they in jail until their trial date? It happens all the time.

Under the law, people of color are considered innocent, but when you consider that minorities are underrepresented in the population and greatly over represented in prison; the amount of minorities who cannot get equal representation because of economic disparity during their trials and whether or not they are represented by their peers or not; and the socialization of all people to see people of color as guilty - the deck is stacked

 

[aspen]

Here is a good article addressing the history of white privilege

http://www.theroot.com/yes-you-can-measure-white-privilege-1794303451

 

[Job]

Under the law, people of color are considered innocent, but when you consider that minorities are underrepresented in the population and greatly over represented in prison; the amount of minorities who cannot get equal representation because of economic disparity during their trials and whether or not they are represented by their peers or not; and the socialization of all people to see people of color as guilty - the deck is stacked

So because blacks commit more crime and can't afford good lawyers, the deck is stacked?

Whites aren't forcing blacks to commit crimes. If they would've obeyed the law in the first place, they wouldn't be in prison.

 

[Job]

2. White people are given the benefit of the doubt - people of color are not.

Explain that.

 

[Dcopymope]

Here is a good article addressing the history of white privilege

http://www.theroot.com/yes-you-can-measure-white-privilege-1794303451

Article:

News organization ProPublica recently found that car-insurance companies charge people who live in black neighborhoods higher rates than people in predominantly white areas with the same risk.

As someone who lives in Detroit, I can speak to this firsthand. The closer you go to any inner city in America, the more blacks you will find. Its no coincidence that you will get charged a ton more for car insurance for living in Detroit versus living in Southfield or Ypsilanti for example. In Detroit, you may get charged up to 700 smackeroos a month, but if you go to any dealership outside of Detroit, it could be as low as 200 a month. Its so absurd that the mayor has been pushing for total reform on all insurance, car insurance especially. How anyone with a low income can afford a car paying that much a month is beyond me. You would have to legally change your address to get a decent rate.

 

[Dcopymope]

So because blacks commit more crime and can't afford good lawyers, the deck is stacked?

Whites aren't forcing blacks to commit crimes. If they would've obeyed the law in the first place, they wouldn't be in prison.

I think the poverty rate will have a lot to do with this Job. Sure, you can say its an excuse, but a legitimate one none the less. I also think the rap culture that encourages all manner of crime that is aimed pretty much solely at people of color is a major factor. The term "monkey see, monkey do" is as relevant today as it has ever been......except I'm not a monkey. :)

 

[n2thelight]

I'm not mad at anyone here who has a different opinion than mine, as Christians we all should be in Christ,and the injustice I feel will be taken care of....

There is a future (a future worth fighting 4)
Worth fighting 4
Yes it is, I know it is
Everything will be alright

 

[n2thelight]

Even though the black community is well aware of the racial disparities in sentencing, blacks continue to commit crimes.

Why is that?

Whites commit crimes as well,yet for that SAME crime yu get 10 years,I get 20 please...
I do know my God is fair

 

[Dcopymope]

I'm not mad at anyone here who has a different opinion than mine, as Christians we all should be in Christ,and the injustice I feel will be taken care of....

Not in this world it won't. If anything whatever "injustice" there is, racial or not will get worse as the heart of man is hardened, which Paul made very clear will be done by God at the appointed time. The term "strong delusion" doesn't fit with your belief that things will be all hunky dory. It certainly will be taken of, but not like you seem to hope it will. Some reform may take place to fix the side effects as has been happening for the last sixty years, but it will in no way fix the cause of those side effects which is the heart.

 

[Job]

Whites commit crimes as well,yet for that SAME crime yu get 10 years,I get 20 please...
I do know my God is fair

Simple solution, don't commit crimes.

I have no sympathy for those who prey on others, white or black.

 

[Job]

I think the poverty rate will have a lot to do with this Job. Sure, you can say its an excuse, but a legitimate one none the less. I also think the rap culture that encourages all manner of crime that is aimed pretty much solely at people of color is a major factor. The term "monkey see, monkey do" is as relevant today as it has ever been......except I'm not a monkey. :)

Whites are not to blame for the poverty rate in black communities.