The Great Apostacy

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Richard_oti

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then i have to ask how BH is not a joke, wadr?
Benny Hinn was a "faith" healer... Regrettably, I have lumped him in amoung the myriad of so called "prophets" and false "christs" (Yes, they claimed to be "christ" that I have encountered on my journeys. One of those so called "prophets" even prophesied my death to occur on Passover one year. Looks like he may have been a false "prophet". That was why Jun2u mentioned good ol' Benny.
 

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The OP is refering generally to a doctrine created by post-reformation groups in order to nulify church history and further separate themselves from Catholic and Protestant doctrine. You have misinterpreted the point of the OP and actually lent credibility to churches like LDS, JWs, and Adventists by providing verses from the Bible that appear to support their false doctrine.

Not to ‘pick on the person posting’, but it is a bit arrogant to contribute to a thread by misinterpresting the OP and criticising the author for not considering your private intepretation



This response is late in coming but I must admit I owe you a sincere apology for mistaking someone else as the the writer of this OP. My bad. This person is someone who wrote many threads in these forums to which he had no knowledge in my assessment.

However; I stand behind my interpretation that the great apostasy is the Abomination of Desolation spoken of by Daniel. The character of this abomination not seen since the beginning of the world is the tribulation that the local churches of the world will be over run by many false gospels, as no wonder Satan comes as an angel of light and his ministers, ministers of righteousness– 2 Corinthians 11:15.

Where do you suppose Satan and his followers will carry out this ravaging, out in the world where the unsaved are already his?

No, I did not lend credence to these false churches. Not all false denominations have wrong gospels. In fact, one or two of those churches mentioned have it correct that Michael is Jesus and I can prove it with Scripture, yet many Protestants believe Michael is an angel. Go figure. But that’s another thread.

I don’t think I misinterpreted the OP, I believe however the opposite is true. If I have an agenda it is only to do the work I was commanded by Christ.

To God Be The Glory
 
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Humphh, I woulda swore that I heard a report of his death.

No he is still very much alive and kicking....if you run you can catch him at the end of the month...
Fort Worth, TX — Pastor's Conference
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It happens ...
While Twain was in London, someone started a rumour that Mark Twain was gravely ill. It was followed by a rumour that he had died.

Accordingly one major American newspaper actually printed his obituary and, when Twain was told about this by a reporter, he quipped:

“The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.” :D
 

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In fact, one or two of those churches mentioned have it correct that Michael is Jesus and I can prove it with Scripture, yet many Protestants believe Michael is an angel.

Do tell.
 

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Daniel 10:13 reads:
“But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days but, lo, Michael ONE of the chief princes...”

The word “prince” can interchangeably be translated as “king.” This makes Michael either the “head,” or the “number one,” or “one” of the Trinity.

Daniel 10:21 reads:
“But I will show thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth : and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.”

No angel can be a prince over man, and Jesus is not an angel!

Daniel 12:1 reads:
“And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people...”

Ezekiel 37:24-25 tells us who is the great prince. “And David (Christ) my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd...” John 10:16 sound familiar?

Ezekiel 37:25, “...and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.”

Jesus is the ONLY King of Kings, and Lord of Lords!

To God Be The Glory
 

Job

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The word “prince” can interchangeably be translated as “king.”

And that's the only way Michael can become Jesus. By altering the scriptures.


Jesus is the ONLY King of Kings, and Lord of Lords!


Shouldn't it read "Michael is the ONLY King of Kings"?



No angel can be a prince over man, and Jesus is not an angel!


Jude 1
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
 

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And that's the only way Michael can become Jesus. By altering the scriptures.

Shouldn't it read "Michael is the ONLY King of Kings"?

Jude 1
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.


I guess you didn’t get the gist of Ezekiel 37:24-25 but it bears repeating. An angel can never be a prince over man for ever, it is impossible!. Man is created flesh and bone while an angel is a ministering spirit sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation, these two are of different species. Only a God-man can have rule over man, never an angel.

The word angel is also translated “messenger” whether it is written in Hebrew or Greek. Could the term “arch” preceding the word “angel” have the same meaning as that of the word “chief” found in Daniel 10:13 as “the number one” or “one of?” I believe it is so!

Angels are created after it’s kind, so is other species that ever was created. Man after it’s kind, elephants after it’s kind, rabbit after it’s kind and so forth. There are NO archangels. An angel is an angel created as a spirit being! They are not like man distinct as male and female. In fact, archangel is a title and said to be “chief angel,” or “number one” angel, same concept as in Daniel 10:13.

There are two kingdoms at war with each other since time began. The forces of Christ and His angels against Satan and his demons. In this sense, Christ is the chief or the arch angel (Jude 1:9). Same concept as Satan is chief demon as leadership goes.

In addition, an angel is also called a messenger, and there are only three entities that fits this bill.

1 Jesus is the “chief” messenger of the Gospel (Malachi 3:1).
2 Angels are messengers that ministers on behalf of the saved (Hebrews 1:14).
3 People are messengers in that they bring the Gospel into the world (Matthew 28:19-20).

I repeat, “arch” or “archangel” is nothing more significant than a title!

To God Be The Glory
 
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An angel can never be a prince over man for ever, it is impossible!.


And yet you claim Jesus is an archangel. Michael is an archangel and you claim Jesus is really Michael, so that would make Jesus an archangel.

Jude 1
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.



Could the term...

The word "could" indicates that you are unsure.



I don't subscribe to the Jehovah Witness faith.
 
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@Job one
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If there was no great Apostasy, then why are not all protestants still Catholics?
don't you mean "why aren't all Catholics now Prots?"

Or just let each on either side slide in his own direction, both directions for the most part missing the Lord as they got involved in the passing. Sounds a little bit like many of the discussions on this forum, doesn't it?
 
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Why not..you are as good as anyone.

BTW your avatar looks a lot like you...yep, I snooped you on facebook....LOL
No getting away form me now. :D
I did not send a friend request just in case you blocked me...but I found you okay. :)

Suddenly ~ that became a challenge to me and I found him too. Funny thing is, I may have found him before since I recognize his face ;)
 
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