Holy Spirit......Christians ?

[theQuestion]

Does One God split Another God into 71 portions?

 

[amadeus]

So, do you think God, who Himself is a Spirit, has a Fellow Spirit- a Nameless Ghost-God?

I am no longer Oneness Jesus Only although I was there for eleven years, but I am perhaps now even farther removed from the Trinitarians, which was where I began. One problem I had with the Holy Spirit was seeing it as a separate but equal part of... God.

God is as you say a Spirit and God as the scripture makes clear in more than one place, is Holy. The Father has simply brought to us another Comforter which is simply a bit of Himself. What should we do with this gift?

We needed the mediator which is Jesus, but once Jesus opened the Door and we opened the Door, God [call Him Father or Holy Ghost] was then able to come into us as that second Comforter to give us the possibility of overcome sin and the causes of sin once and for all.

 

[amadeus]

we should not speak of what we do not know as if we do - Jn.14:17 - twinc

Indeed twinc:

"Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." John 14:17

And since the Spirit of truth dwelleth in us, then when we are not quenching Him then the words coming out of our mouths must be His and we will always have it right. That is of course what you meant to say! Or...?

 

[DicipleofJesus]

Who taught you these thongs? They are not taught in Conservative Christianity. And I have listened to a lot of English pastors preach and teach. And as pointed out not all languages support your linguistic definitions. But how about you tell me what the word(s) are for "ghost" and "spirit" in the Biblical Greek language. The NT was written in the Greek language. The OT in the Hebrew language if you want to supply the Hebrew words for "ghost" and "spirit".

 

[theQuestion]

Who taught you these thongs? They are not taught in Conservative Christianity. And I have listened to a lot of English pastors preach and teach. And as pointed out not all languages support your linguistic definitions. But how about you tell me what the word(s) are for "ghost" and "spirit" in the Biblical Greek language. The NT was written in the Greek language. The OT in the Hebrew language if you want to supply the Hebrew words for "ghost" and "spirit".

Misconception is avoided by sticking to the words (Hebrew and Greek) God inspired when these books were written.
Mixing the opinions of the Clergy will prevent understanding!

 

[DicipleofJesus]

I am no longer Oneness Jesus Only although I was there for eleven years, but I am perhaps now evenings farther removed from the Trinitarians, which was where I began. One problem I had with the Holy Spirit was seeing it as a separate but equal part of... God.

God is as you say a Spirit and God as the scripture makes clear in more than one place, is Holy. The Father has simply brought to us another Comforter which is simply a bit of Himself. What should we do with this gift?

We needed the medyiator which is Jesus, but once Jesus opened the Door and we opened the Door, God [call Him Father or Holy Ghost] was then able to come into us as that second Comforter to give us the possibility of overcome sin and the causes of sin once and for all.

I am no longer Oneness Jesus Only although I was there for eleven years, but I am perhaps now even farther removed from the Trinitarians, which was where I began. One problem I had with the Holy Spirit was seeing it as a separate but equal part of... God.

God is as you say a Spirit and God as the scripture makes clear in more than one place, is Holy. The Father has simply broyught to us another Comforter which is simply a bit of Himself. What should we do with this gift?

We needed the mediator which is Jesus, but once Jesus opened the Door and we opened the Door, God [call Him Father or Holy Ghost] was then able to come into us as that second Comforter to give us the possibility of overcome sin and the causes of sin once and for all.

I can't even imagine that. To read His Word without the Holy Spirit... I remember when my love affair with His Word began... It was like watching the words of His Word float before my eyes down the river of the water of life...

I am no longer Oneness Jesus Only although I was there for eleven years, but I am perhaps now even farther removed from the Trinitarians, which was where I began. One problem I had with the Holy Spirit was seeing it as a se

"GHOST", in English, is a reference of an 'immortal soul' returning to haunt.
The Catholic Church had ruach & pneuma (meaning "bis contrary to scripture!reath/wind") translated as "Ghost" to mystify the superstitious population.
God chose "breath/wind" to illustrate what is unseen; the very form/bodies of the beings in Heaven and "the Power" that He sends forth to do His will.

Anything else

parate but equal part of... God.

God is as you say a Spirit and God as the scripture makes clear in more than one place, is Holy. The Father has simply brought to us another Comforter which is simply a bit of Himself. What should we do with this gift?

We needed the mediator which is Jesus, but once Jesus opened the Door and we opened the Door, God [call Him Father or Holy Ghost] was then able to come into us as that second Comforter to give us the possibility of overcome sin and the causes of sin once and for all.

That

 

[Helen]

It will continue if you try to make church dogma gel with scripture...

Goodness ...we must be on a roll....agree ....again! lol

 

[theQuestion]

Goodness ...we must be on a roll....agree ....again! lol

Yer SCARING me, Grace!

 

[DicipleofJesus]

Does One God split Another God into 71 portions?

Are you sayi g there are two gods or two Gods? It is written that there is one God and that there are three persons in this one God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Any other recognised as a god is an idol. And those who woship idols commit idolatory. And since God hates sin He would have those idols destroyed and/or punish those who.worship idols. So to your question God decides how to deal with gods/idols.

 

[theQuestion]

It is written that there is one God and that there are three persons in this one God

No such thing in scripture.
Three Co-Almighty Beings is an Illusion.

 

[DicipleofJesus]

After the mediator, Jesus, came up from the water after being Baptised by John the Baptist, the Holy Spirit descended upon him in the form of a dove, and a voice from Heaven said ' this is My Son in whom I am well pleased. The three persons of God active in the same place. If this is an illusion what is the poi t of debating linguistics. God is an illusion to you but real to me. So debating linguistics about the Holy Spirit is futile.

 

[theQuestion]

After the mediator, Jesus, came up from the water after being Baptised by John the Baptist, the Holy Spirit descended upon him in the form of a dove, and a voice from Heaven said ' this is My Son in whom I am well pleased. The three persons of God active in the same place. If this is an illusion what is the poi t of debating linguistics. God is an illusion to you but real to me. So debating linguistics about the Holy Spirit is futile.

So, One God in Heaven spoke to him, while Another God became a bird and Possessed GodJesus?
PLEASE stop and think about that church nonsense!

 

[Helen]

"A man convinced against his will is of the same persuasion still ".
We have not seen the end of the story yet...and each must be persuaded in their own mind.
Before their own master they stand or fall.

 

[DicipleofJesus]

I am no longer Oneness Jesus Only although I was there for eleven years, but I am perhaps now even farther removed from the Trinitarians,

Thats not exactly what verse 28 says... At least not according to the KJV. Perhaps another version says it a bit differently.

Saying John the Bapyist is was not a Christian. .. I don't kbow about that. He leaped for joy while in his mother's womb when he heard the news. His ministry pointed to Jesus. He faultered a bit afterwards but I never read Jesus complaining about that.

I say he was one and became one 6 months before he was born and 9 months before Jesus was born.

What the verse in Luke 7 says is that John was the greatest human prophet ever. But Jesus those that are in heaven are greater than he is.

Jesus gave John great accolades. Critics didn't think too much of him but Jesus did. So on earth and in the flesh up to that point... John was the best. Better than Moses, David, Isaiah. Where Peter, Paul and the Apostles rank is not known and not worth exploring. The point is that as great as John was on earth, it was much better to be in heaven.

I can understand the point of view that we as Christians now sit in heavenly places and we have received what John said was coming. So yea... Kinda correct in saying we have it better. Yet I suspect John is in paradise now. So he isn't the least anymore.

I want to clear a bit of co fusion by stating that John the Baptist was not a Christian, because there were no Christians at all when Jesus was on earth. There were only those who were disciples of Jesus. It was only shortly after Jesus' Acension into Heaven after the twelve Disciples of Jesus became Apostles...eleven Diciiples as Judas Iscariot was dead, thus eleven Apostles..... Were prea Hong the


which was where I began. One problem I had with the Holy Spirit was seeing it as a separate but equal part of... God.

God is as you say a Spirit and God as the scripture makes clear in more than one place, is Holy. The Father has simply brought to us another Comforter which is simply a bit of Himself. What should we do with this gift?

We needed the medyiator which is Jesus, but once Jesus opened the Door and we opened the Door, God [call Him Father or Holy Ghost] was then able to come into us as that second Comforter to give us the possibility of overcome sin and the causes of sin once and for all.

I am no longer Oneness Jesus Only although I was there for eleven years, but I am perhaps now even farther removed from the Trinitarians, which was where I began. One problem I had with the Holy Spirit was seeing it as a separate but equal part of... God.

God is as you say a Spirit and God as the scripture makes clear in more than one place, is Holy. The Father has simply broyught to us another Comforter which is simply a bit of Himself. What should we do with this gift?

We needed the mediator which is Jesus, but once Jesus opened the Door and we opened the Door, God [call Him Father or Holy Ghost] was then able to come into us as that second Comforter to give us the possibility of overcome sin and the causes of sin once and for all.

I can't even imagine that. To read His Word without the Holy Spirit... I remember when my love affair with His Word began... It was like watching the words of His Word float before my eyes down the river of the water of life...

 

[DicipleofJesus]

No such thing in scripture.
Three Co-Almighty Beings is an Illusion.

All I can do is pray for ya.

 

[theQuestion]

All I can do is pray for ya.

Pray all you wish- that won't make the Triune Polytheism real....

 

[Richard_oti]

First, any servant of God had God's Breath ("spirit"), such as the prophets of old.
Second, anyone TODAY having God's Spirit (not 'Holy Ghost') IS a Christian, otherwise would not be guided by it.

You do realize there is a difference between Ruakh ha-Khayim and Ruakh ha-Qodesh / Ruakh 'Elohim / Ruakh YHVH?

All are of / from YHVH. But not all make one a Christian.

 

[twinc]

Indeed twinc:

"Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." John 14:17

And since the Spirit of truth dwelleth in us, then when we are not quenching Him then the words coming out of our mouths must be His and we will always have it right. That is of course what you meant to say! Or...?

the spirit of truth does not dwell in us we have quenched the HS AND THE WORDS COMING OUT OF OUR MOUTHS are not His as they are divisive, different, confused etc - twinc

 

[twinc]

So, One God in Heaven spoke to him, while Another God became a bird and Possessed GodJesus?
PLEASE stop and think about that church nonsense!

that isbnot Church nonsense it is the word of God in the Bible - twinc

 

[mjrhealth]

"GHOST", in English, is a reference of an 'immortal soul' returning to haunt.
The Catholic Church had ruach & pneuma (meaning "bis contrary to scripture!reath/wind") translated as "Ghost" to mystify the superstitious population.
God chose "breath/wind" to illustrate what is unseen; the very form/bodies of the beings in Heaven and "the Power" that He sends forth to do His will.

Anything else

Thanks for putting that straight, few X catholics around here thanking God for His Spirit.