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twinc

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were the Apostles and Mary etc baptised = who decides whether the answer is yes or no - twinc
 

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were the Apostles and Mary etc baptised = who decides whether the answer is yes or no - twinc

Well I recall Jesus Christ baptizing the apostles. Why? Did someone tell you he didn't?
 

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not at all - where ? - twinc
1 Peter 3:21 "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ". the "US" here included Peter. and if US then there was more. since peter was an apostle, and he was baptize...... well.

Peace in Christ Jesus/Yeshua.
 

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were the Apostles and Mary etc baptised = who decides whether the answer is yes or no - twinc

Probably, knowing you as we do, you will decide what is 'yes' and what is 'no'.

Then you will probably say like you always do, " This doesn't apply to us, the bible is not talking to us."

So really...who gives a rip if they were or if they weren't? Or who writes Yes and who writes No.o_O
 

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were the Apostles and Mary etc baptised = who decides whether the answer is yes or no - twinc
1. Who cares
2. It is irrelevant
3. It will add nothing to your salvation wheter they where or not.
4. This will just end up another we believe nonsense discussions which is where they all end up.
5. Does nothing to Edify or glorify God.

In fact teh bible speaks nothing of Mary being baptized, as for teh disciples seems teh only mention form what I recall, is teh baptism of fire when teh Holy Spirit fell upon them.

Ho Hum here we go again.
 
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1. Who cares
2. It is irrelevant
3. It will add nothing to your salvation wheter they where or not.
4. This will just end up another we believe nonsense discussions which is where they all end up.
5. Does nothing to Edify or glorify God.

In fact teh bible speaks nothing of Mary being baptized, as for teh disciples seems teh only mention form what I recall, is teh baptism of fire when teh Holy Spirit fell upon them.

Ho Hum here we go again.


hum ho so round and round we go = Christian baptism is not via spirit alone or water alone or fire alone or even blood alone or even spirit and water but of water and spirit - so ho ho hum hum to you too - twinc
 

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hum ho so round and round we go = Christian baptism is not via spirit alone or water alone or fire alone or even blood alone or even spirit and water but of water and spirit - so ho ho hum hum to you too - twinc
YEs , and are you going to go to God and demand he kick all those who are in heaven out because according to you, they must be water baptized, go right ahead, all you will do is find yourself banging on the door demanding to get let in because you demanded God keep them all out.
 
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YEs , and are you going to go to God and demand he kick all those who are in heaven out because according to you, they must be water baptized, go right ahead, all you will do is find yourself banging on the door demanding to get let in because you demanded God keep them all out.


it is not a case of God keeping them out but you letting them in - since you do not seem to realise nor accept that Jesus is the only way so that there are and will be only Christians that are in heaven or hell - twinc
 

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it is not a case of God keeping them out but you letting them in - since you do not seem to realise nor accept that Jesus is the only way so that there are and will be only Christians that are in heaven or hell - twinc
Yes Twinc Jesus is the only way, at least that bit you got right. And when you let go of everything, what you will have left, is what you need, Jesus.

And you cant stop people from entering in,. have you not read,,

Mat_23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

And this bit,

Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Dont play games Twinc. its your salvation at stake.
 
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Yes Twinc Jesus is the only way, at least that bit you got right. And when you let go of everything, what you will have left, is what you need, Jesus.

And you cant stop people from entering in,. have you not read,,

Mat_23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

And this bit,

Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Mat 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Dont play games Twinc. its your salvation at stake.

it is neither yours or anyone elses to allow - you are not the way Jesus is - twinc
 

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could be the problem is you are not people - twinc
Well TwinC that you can take up with Him. now you are picking at straws. so many people fight God than hope we will join them in there disagreements with Him,.. You could just ask Him, Hes not deaf...

I know who I am in Christ, and I know where I stand with God, and no religous zealot, lawyer, pharisee or teacher will or can take that from me.

Joh 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
Joh 3:31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
Joh 3:32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
Joh 3:33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.
 
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Well TwinC that you can take up with Him. now you are picking at straws. so many people fight God than hope we will join them in there disagreements with Him,.. You could just ask Him, Hes not deaf...

I know who I am in Christ, and I know where I stand with God, and no religous zealot, lawyer, pharisee or teacher will or can take that from me.

Joh 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
Joh 3:31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
Joh 3:32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
Joh 3:33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.


exactly so but who is falsely claiming this testimony - again claiming false inspiration and guidance - twinc