Have you ever been challenged to, say, call for a healing?

[Dcopymope]

oh jesus already what crap mjr, the law was not invented by Moses ok

Exactly, because God is the law, its not something that suddenly popped into existence on mount Sinai. The law in its inception is spiritual, and God also being spirit is its source, the standard by which the written letter of the law is based on.

(Romans 7:12-14) "Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. {13} Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. {14} For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin."

 

[bbyrd009]

As I said if you dont have scripture that back up what YOU THINK . Thers nothing for me to discuss with you.

he does, that is covered in the "imagination" section, and several other spots obliquely, obviously the many who cry Lord, Lord had faith in their faith, etc

 

[Ally.s.j]

I don't like "show me in scripture" bullies and you needed to be taken down a notch.

I bet you dont when you cant quopte scripture kinda leaves ya looking silly. You cant take me down a peg or two or anything else. I wont let you or anyone. I dont get ruffled upset or angry at you or anyone else. So you only fighting with your self. Hows it working out so far for ya?

 

[bbyrd009]

Amen now if they would seak revelation instead of knowledge maybe the world will change.

and now i'll tell you the same thing, that all you gotta do is go find one v that says the Law was abolished, and i'll shut up ok
Romans 3:31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all ...

and before you bring Ephesians, you better read again

 

[Dcopymope]

and now i'll tell you the same thing, that all you gotta do is go find one v that says the Law was abolished, and i'll shut up ok
Romans 3:31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all ...

and before you bring Ephesians, you better read again

They won't, they will just keep repeating the same tripe we've been hearing for God knows how long. It got old for me a long time ago.

 

[Ally.s.j]

and now i'll tell you the same thing, that all you gotta do is go find one v that says the Law was abolished, and i'll shut up ok
Romans 3:31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all ...

and before you bring Ephesians, you better read again

Think we got crossed messages here. I know what both are saying.
We are not under the law. Ever.
heaven and earth will fall away but the word God will stand forever. Something like that its late here. I can give many many verses tell you why the new covanant is beter than the old if you like? Hope i have it typed some where I would hate to have to type it all out. 60 verses

 

[bbyrd009]

Anarchy is not Chaos though, no rulers does not mean no rules

 

[bbyrd009]

We are not under the law. Ever.

i agree, but this does not mean that the law has been nullified, or is no longer in effect for those who eschew grace, either, see, the fact that someone under grace is not under the law does not mean that the law has been invalidated, it means that we have an even higher standard to answer to; not a lower one. The soul that sins will die is still in effect. Don't be deceived, little children.

The time to forget about the law, see, and prove you are not under it, is after someone has sinned against you, and you demonstrate grace rather than "being under the law," which let's get real not a swingin...no one reading this would decline to call the police if they came home and their house had been robbed, right. Wouldn't you rather be cheated? as if

 

[mjrhealth]

and now i'll tell you the same thing, that all you gotta do is go find one v that says the Law was abolished, and i'll shut up ok
Romans 3:31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all ...

and before you bring Ephesians, you better read again

you have just formed the basis of a religion , seventh day adventism. Now if you can fin one who actually keeps the law please point them out to me.

 

[bbyrd009]

you have just formed the basis of a religion , seventh day adventism. Now if you can fin one who actually keeps the law please point them out to me.

look i can even quote directly "Heaven forbid" your concept here ok

and yes, those would be examples of law, good examples, great places to learn the law from, either by the left or the right. Those can be all the "towns," see.

of course as brand new Christian Believers we are convinced that we are to go to these towns to preach what we know, huh. And the Book even pokes a little fun there, catering to this assumption, see, knowing that that is going to happen. New converts are always the most zealous, see, even for Weight Watchers lol. You don't read about not eating fruit from a tree for 3 years until later, right

 

[mjrhealth]

look i can even quote directly "Heaven forbid" your concept here ok

and yes, those would be examples of law, good examples, great places to learn the law from, either by the left or the right. Those can be all the "towns," see.

of course as brand new Christian Believers we are convinced that we are to go to these towns to preach what we know, huh. And the Book even pokes a little fun there, catering to this assumption, see, knowing that that is going to happen. New converts are always the most zealous, see, even for Weight Watchers lol. You don't read about not eating fruit from a tree for 3 years until later, right

You have seeing enough posts about the law, and you now where they all end up,. So what prompted you to bring it up again. By teh way, we are supposed to speak the truth not what we know, and we can never know the truth without revelation, and that comes from God. What we know may be wrong and if we teach it. that we will be laying stumbling blocks before men, when one receives revelation from God, and only He can give it, but even than those who do not have eyes to see of ears to hear, or have shut them selves up to the truth, can never receive it. Its just the way God works.

 

[truthquest]

Anarchy is not Chaos though, no rulers does not mean no rules

Do you consider antifa as anarchists?

 

[epostle1]

Think we got crossed messages here. I know what both are saying.
We are not under the law. Ever.
heaven and earth will fall away but the word God will stand forever. Something like that its late here. I can give many many verses tell you why the new covanant is beter than the old if you like? Hope i have it typed some where I would hate to have to type it all out. 60 verses

All you have to do is type the name of the book and verse numbers. The text once posted will turn grey. Hover the cursor over it or click on it, you get the full text instantly. You don't have to paste half the Bible.

Are the 10 Commandments part of the Law?

 

[amadeus]

The Jews are the ones cause most of the pain in the world. American jews that is The zionists both in the good old usa of a and the ones in isreal

Really? And what do you think of the Jew called Jesus? Did he cause pain?

 

[Dcopymope]

Really? And what do you think of the Jew called Jesus? Did he cause pain?

Well, he caused an immeasurable amount of pain for Satan, that's for damn sure.

 

[Richard_oti]

<snip>
You failed because you had no faith.

Yeah, but Jesus did say through prayer and fasting in the one instance that comes to mind. I have an affliction that was given to me, nor has anyone healed it. For it was given to me for a reason. Not unlike Paul's "thorn".

<snip>

kepa13 and grace are both saying I am wrong but cant bring scripture to prove there point. I cant understand there thinking. You would think I was working for satan with the reactions of some.

I haven't followed your exchanges with them closely. However what I have noticed was your attitude. As I said, welcome to the dark side. Which is in part what @"ByGrace" has taken issue with. I know there is more to ByGrace than she will admit openly on this forum regarding such, and rightly so.

When you challenged @BreadOfLife regarding such, I remember thinking, that I would not tell you either. When you started going on regarding the number of "healings" you have been involved in, believe me, it did not come across in the best of manners. Now, I have held my tongue regarding such.

"Healing" can be a very divisive topic. It is a gift, one which not all are given or called unto [cf 1 Cor 12]. I was given certain gifts for the ministry that I was sent unto. However, to boast in the number that "we" healed, is not coming from the right "attitude" from my perspective. For we should boast in the "Lord". In what He has done.

May a blessing be upon your heart.

 

[Ally.s.j]

Yeah, but Jesus did say through prayer and fasting in the one instance that comes to mind. I have an affliction that was given to me, nor has anyone healed it. For it was given to me for a reason. Not unlike Paul's "thorn".

<snip>



I haven't followed your exchanges with them closely. However what I have noticed was your attitude. As I said, welcome to the dark side. Which is in part what @"ByGrace" has taken issue with. I know there is more to ByGrace than she will admit openly on this forum regarding such, and rightly so.

When you challenged @BreadOfLife regarding such, I remember thinking, that I would not tell you either. When you started going on regarding the number of "healings" you have been involved in, believe me, it did not come across in the best of manners. Now, I have held my tongue regarding such.

"Healing" can be a very divisive topic. It is a gift, one which not all are given or called unto [cf 1 Cor 12]. I was given certain gifts for the ministry that I was sent unto. However, to boast in the number that "we" healed, is not coming from the right "attitude" from my perspective. For we should boast in the "Lord". In what He has done.

May a blessing be upon your heart.

1. Where is a single scripture that says God gives sickness for any reason.
2 maybe when you look at all my posts closely then you can have your say. But why would you have a say when you never looked or followd closely?
3. I challnanded BOL as I told you already and you thanked me for it. I am seeing him continually pull every other church down.
So I challanged the mighty catholic church worshipper to show us how he is walking in a better truth than us. Hes not That was the whole point I was making. He talking like the CS is the only way to all truth. But I know for a fact He is not walking in healing as are not most. Most Christian have a twisted thinking on healing and dont understand that. I know that for a fact. as I said already I dobnt believe there is any in here who would teach me much if anything on healing. I dont really mind if you believe that or not. Is that arrogance. You will think so. But it is a fact. Its a big statement to make as I dont know ebvereyome in here. But I am will to have a debate/teach anyone on the subject.

I clearly see you have a twisted thinking on God as well accusing God of making Paul sick. I can teach on that also . But most in here will not have an ear for it. I think you are a little more leval headed and would listen at least.

You accused me of baosting . How did you get to that conclusion? BOL asked me should I lie and keep the nunbers down? If I am asked what would you recommernd I do? You are talking utter nonsense here. ITs you pride thats getting to you here not mine. I seen hundreds healed a\nd I will not hide it any where from anyone. You have no scripture telling us hide the works of God. Dont say Jesus did. I know that and I kmnow why. hope you do to. I am boasting in the Lord its how YOU and the OTHERS choose to read it.

 

[Miss Hepburn]

Ally..tell everyone all the healings you have seen or been a part of...let people know it is still happening and possible.
I know that you know nothing is done by you it is all the Lord...but on forums people want the words 'said'...or they think you are boasting on you...
It is a 'forum phenomenon'....
I must place an asterik* and say below....*We all know all healings are done by God, not ourselves. ;]
You and I take that for granted...."I was asked to do a healing", is a common sentence I could say in writing...but people may not 'get', it is because it's just easier to type... of course, we aren't healing anyone, geeze !!!

People often misunderstand enthusiasm as fanaticism, boasting, arrogance, pride...the list goes on... when to exp the reverence and humilty it takes to pray or decree a healing, rebuking that which is causing the illness, I call the 'enemy'.is tremendous.

It is a paradox in that it is a very hard thing to do with family members hoping, yet with huge skeptism, waiting to show everyone what
fanatics we are, filled with false hope with magical thinking....YET, it is so easy for us to trust in God's Will !
(That He wants us healed...as demonstrated by Jesus' healing mission!)
Ask, believe and receive.
I mean, either I believe Jesus or I don't, speaking for myself here!
There is no gray area for me.

If I ask my Father for bread will he give me a stone? The answer is 100% ..No.

The Spirit is what keeps everything we see 'together'...it is the invisible glue of all creation or else there could be a bunch of atoms floating all around, ha,
and not bodies and trees and with the power of gravity here. (How wonderful the Creator is!) ☺
So what is more powerful?
That which is created or That Which did the creating and keeps all creation in existence?
That Holy Spirit, God, our Father is what I know is more powerful than any idea of sickness...nothing will change my belief in That Spirit and His desire to heal us and give us our proverbial 'daily bread'.
I trust Him implicitly.

There will always be the question the enemy, the lower ego self
will pose...sometimes with sincerity and many times with the 'Na-nanana' snarky attitude : "Well, what about all the sick, starving children of the world? "
This can only be answered by 1. We have free will...we have made choices...and bad ones.
"What? A child born blind in a Central Am fishing village made a decision or a choice?
Um, yes.
Get with the program...there is more going on than what you see with your 2 little eyes!
We have a lot of learning from our pasts...what we have sown we reap...and learn from.
Can it all be changed? Can we rush to their aid?
Of course! That is part of the sowing and reaping!
Mankind has sown selfish, ignorant desires that all on earth are reaping....
We all must aid each other for all of us to be lifted to health, happiness and a higher awareness of what's going on here...that we are the children of God and He wants us to be full and joyous..as He is in Heaven.

This is my understanding.

 

[bbyrd009]

You have seeing enough posts about the law, and you now where they all end up,. So what prompted you to bring it up again.

you telling believers that they don't have to keep the law?

So what prompted you to bring it up again. By teh way, we are supposed to speak the truth not what we know, and we can never know the truth without revelation, and that comes from God.

k well if it violates "Heaven forbid" or any other law in the Book then it is not from God, ok. i ignore lawyers telling believers that bc they do not rep grace, but you do, so that is why i am here bothering

What we know may be wrong and if we teach it. that we will be laying stumbling blocks before men

exactly, yes

when one receives revelation from God, and only He can give it, but even than those who do not have eyes to see of ears to hear, or have shut them selves up to the truth, can never receive it. Its just the way God works.

i'm sure if we just review the imagination passages and compare them to your concept you'll be fine, or at least we'll see who has ears and eyes. Understanding comes in a flash, pretty much to everyone i guess, and it comes when it comes, diff for everyone, you included i guess.

And ps you added that "never," that is not what Scripture means by "never hearing" or "never seeing" either wadr. If you go read, the sense of "as long as you do this, you will never do that" is pretty clear i think

 

[bbyrd009]

Do you consider antifa as anarchists?

might have started that way, but looks like Chaos agents piled in pretty quick i guess? This is the inevitable result of organizing officially, i guess, you provide a banner for the lawless to hide under; a raven's wing, like Trinity or Original Sin doctrines. Great in theory.

 

[bbyrd009]

We are not under the law. Ever.

then you shouldn't need to overlook any posts i guess, huh

i agree, but this does not mean that the law has been nullified, or is no longer in effect for those who eschew grace, either, see, the fact that someone under grace is not under the law does not mean that the law has been invalidated, it means that we have an even higher standard to answer to; not a lower one. The soul that sins will die is still in effect. Don't be deceived, little children.

The time to forget about the law, see, and prove you are not under it, is after someone has sinned against you, and you demonstrate grace rather than "being under the law," which let's get real not a swingin...no one reading this would decline to call the police if they came home and their house had been robbed, right. Wouldn't you rather be cheated? as if