Theory of Evolution

[bbyrd009]

Seeking a higher power might be put down to instinct, but I do not regard doctrines and traditions as instinct...Just my opinion

no, but they are kin in a sense. And i don't mean that doctrines and traditions are bad, either; but i do mean that humans never look up, for danger or even in general. A great test of someone's awareness is to get about a foot--or a third of a meter to you i guess--above their sightline, and...ya, guess i'm not s'posed to go there nevermind lol

 

[bbyrd009]

The world doesn't have a problem believing in miracles, as long as that miracle excludes God.

could you give an example?

 

[bbyrd009]

I'm sure this was the purpose of evolution getting taught as establishment science to start with.

these people are no more evil than a pastor, and i would suggest not viewing any as enemies myself.
We teach kids that the earth rotates around a central sun by the same mechanism; because that is where the facts led us.
"Evolution" is defined many ways, and imo you get to choose what you believe now, right?
and your kids too; if you want to shield them from the principle of change, then that is your right, see

Contemplate how long you would have lasted as a female time traveller in colonial Salem, perhaps; even you

or see that 500 years ago none of us would have been suffered to live long with our current attitudes; one went to a "church" and paid tithes upon pain of death for refusing, for the most part; a religious perspective was mandatory, if you wanted to live in society

 

[Dcopymope]

could you give an example?

An example? Ok, it is taught in school that all living forms arose from a single celled organism which itself came from an inorganic form. In short, it teaches that a frog by chance mutation can transform into a prince. The evidence for this is only strong enough to consider as nothing more than a hypothesis at best, a fantasy from the minds of those who wish to remove God out of the picture.

these people are no more evil than a pastor, and i would suggest not viewing any as enemies myself.
We teach kids that the earth rotates around a central sun by the same mechanism; because that is where the facts led us.
"Evolution" is defined many ways, and imo you get to choose what you believe now, right?
and your kids too; if you want to shield them from the principle of change, then that is your right, see

I just gave you the definition as it is taught, and its the only way it is taught.

 

[bbyrd009]

Ok, it is taught in school that all living forms arose from a single celled organism which itself came from an inorganic form. In short, it teaches that a frog by chance mutation can transform into a prince.

these are not true, and nothing after "single celled organism" is taught anywhere that i am aware of?

and of course you began life as a single celled organism too, right, i mean i can even show you a picture

 

[bbyrd009]

The evidence for this is only strong enough to consider as nothing more than a hypothesis at best, a fantasy from the minds of those who wish to remove God out of the picture.

i would not recommend sending a child to school, but nonetheless i can tell you with confidence that many others share your perspective, and no children are being taught that single celled organisms arise from elements, ok. the question is left a question because no one knows, although several pointless theories are suggested, granted that; but that is how we find the truth, after all.

 

[bbyrd009]

I just gave you the definition as it is taught, and its the only way it is taught.

and thank God for that, imo. Try and teach people lies, and the truth only becomes more apparent. The theory is plainly stated as theory, and children are not stupid i guess.

"We do not know" is what is taught to your kids at school, and this is excellent practical knowledge imo, because even a believer does not know how God made the dust of the earth. Even school leaves the connection of elements to life undetermined, and they do not teach what you are inferring here as fact by any means wadr.

They might try, but the central question is left open, and the central question is all that matters there i guess.
When a kid asks "how do i make a living cell?" and they get "we cannot do this" then the truth is revealed plainly enough, imo

every kid ever asks if the "Frankenstein" scenario would work, see, and they all get the same answer; "no."
"how do you know?"
"because we tried it."
etc

also, there are exceptions to the standard teaching model of evolution in America, even if Creationism is widely suppressed, i mean i'm not meaning to argue that it isn't. So then why send your kid to school?

only slightly less evil than sending your kids to a building you deem "church" with a dime for the education, imo

see, we all seek oracles, and not knowing is not an option, right?
we all gotta know, lol

 

[Dcopymope]

"After their kind" does not fit with evolution that claims "from another kind", that much I know.

 

[bbyrd009]

"After their kind" does not fit with evolution that claims "from another kind", that much I know.

well hopefully you get that i am just playing DA here and i pretty much agree with you. But neither would i want my kids exposed to only "God twinkled His Nose, and Adam miraculously coagulated from dirt" either. Truth is not a one-dimensional thing, from our perspective anyway.

see how we could apply our argument to why you have promissory notes in your pocket, and refer to them as "money" too, see

 

[Dcopymope]

well hopefully you get that i am just playing DA here and i pretty much agree with you. But neither would i want my kids exposed to only "God twinkled His Nose, and Adam miraculously coagulated from dirt" either. Truth is not a one-dimensional thing, from our perspective anyway.

see how we could apply our argument to why you have promissory notes in your pocket, and refer to them as "money" too, see

"God twinkled His Nose, and Adam miraculously coagulated from dirt"..............

Ok, well it doesn't say that either. He didn't flick his nose, he just spoke all into existence.

(Genesis 1:24-25) "¶ And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. {25} And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good."

So the word gives us the means by which he made life, and it was....well, by his word. Notice what it says, God says "let the earth bring forth". What does this tell us about it later stating he created man from the "dust of the earth"? Did you notice this? It tells us that the materials for life to spring forth was already in the earth itself, and it was his voice that spawned each creature into existence, not "from another kind" like evolution claims, but "after their kind". Yes, you can bring up the dictionaries saying the word "dust" was not used, but us being made from the materials of the earth at his command can still be inferred from the entirety of the creation account. So that just about narrows it down and excludes evolution from the jump as being in any way compatible with the Biblical account.

 

[Helen]

and of course you began life as a single celled organism too, right, i mean i can even show you a picture

I thought it was two? The mama and the papa. ...Joined.

 

[Truth]

I thought it was two? The mama and the papa. ...Joined.

Yes, this is true!! But, with everything that God Created there is a like form of Reproduction, Plants use pollen as their form of reproduction, Mammals reproduce sum what like Humans, Fish are a little different, But there is still egg's and fertilization, Reptiles and Bird's mate very much the same way, Fertilization and then the laying of egg's. with that said we must see what the Word declares, everything after it's own Kind, Right! But, and there will always be a BUT, with bird's and reptiles there seams to be a similarity, did bird's evolve from reptiles??????????? I still do not believe in Evolution, and dats da truth!
Read my post #4 in the Forty Pre-ascension days and you will understand why I believe in God and Savior

 

[bbyrd009]

"God twinkled His Nose, and Adam miraculously coagulated from dirt"..............

Ok, well it doesn't say that either. He didn't flick his nose, he just spoke all into existence.

as long as the mystery remains, great; i don't know that dust of the earth means cells.
But when that is summarily excluded, then a conclusion has been reached, right

So that just about narrows it down and excludes evolution from the jump as being in any way compatible with the Biblical account.

evolution as you have defined it, maybe, but abiogenesis is really what that is called, and evolution might even be more properly said to apply only to organisms that are already alive, and not even address Creation at all.

This distinction is kind of emerging as we speak, and seems like a good way to differentiate the two concepts is why i mention it; they seem to be splitting, over the last 20 years or so maybe

Of course this debate rages no less than our faith v works ones, and i personally doubt abiogenesis, but if it were proven tomorrow i still wouldn't doubt God did it.

 

[bbyrd009]

I thought it was two? The mama and the papa. ...Joined.

the winning sperm--which does not compete with the others, an important distinction for...later--joins with the monthly egg, and a single cell is created, i can dig you up a movie on it if you like. The two literally become one.

But to suppose that that single cell's multiple divisions completing to produce a finished human is also not a good picture; you would die very quickly without the help/addition of many other species of organisms, that we all hold in common; or should anyway.

 

[bbyrd009]

everything after it's own Kind, Right!

so does this mean that you check yourself for a palmaris longus, and reject any potential mates that do not have one?

Why not?

 

[Truth]

so does this mean that you check yourself for a palmaris longus, and reject any potential mates that do not have one?

Why not?

You always kill me LOL, If they do not have one then ether they are an amputee, of not human imo! so yes!

 

[pia]

did not theorize this apropos of nothing;

They call it the 'Theory of Evolution'.....some would call it a 'hypothesis' lol

 

[pia]

Putting oneself in Esau's place helps here to

Wasn't he the one who sold his birthright for a bowl of 'soup' ?

 

[pia]

Assuming Eve has been assimilated at that point

Do you think she ran into The Borg' ? lol.......I wasn't aware Seth is supposedly the only one created in Adams image...don't think I have heard of that anywhere before...

 

[pia]

Mark, my info is all available on my profile page tho
(SS # on request!)

Thank you