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Nah, let's go with what I've said for once. I think I've earned a skippy badge.
Oh go love your God, that's all your got.You've earned nothing. You haven't answered all questions. You make one line generalizations. You lie. Your just a typical atheist.
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Hosea 4:6I also agree that eternal torment has been used as a fear factor in keeping ignorant people submitted to church authority. Not convinced anyone will be in heaven because of fear of something which is in reality, a myth.
Oh go love your God, that's all your got.
Better to ask God for wisdom than read teh bible, it will kill you as it has so many christians, just read teh posts on this forum.Hosea 4:6
6my people are destroyed from lack of knowledge. "Because you have rejected knowledge, I also reject you as my priests; because you have ignored the law of your God, I also will ignore your children.
Name one thing you can do morally with God that I can't do morally without.
nice, i wrote that one down for later.Oh go love your God, that's all your got.
the point is to divide, joints from marrow, right. That is the function of Word, from which the Book descends, mjr. While i do understand how you got to your position, i suggest that you would not object at all to a proper interpretation. So the wolves misinterpret to suit themselves, so what. That means you are going to toss our most inspired Writings? Then how will you see the sin that you are committing, in order to rebound from it?Better to ask God for wisdom than read teh bible, it will kill you as it has so many christians, just read teh posts on this forum.
now mjr, i have to ask how churches are going to be judged, if not by their works?And believe me when I say, God knows where you are coming from, religion will and does have a lot to answer for, it has kept Gods people from God for centuries and it and all its churches will be judged, But God is not who you think He is, religion has bastardized Him to keep people afraid of Him, it certainly worked on you.
the point is to divide, joints from marrow, right. That is the function of Word, from which the Book descends, mjr. While i do understand how you got to your position, i suggest that you would not object at all to a proper interpretation. So the wolves misinterpret to suit themselves, so what. That means you are going to toss our most inspired Writings? Then how will you see the sin that you are committing, in order to rebound from it?
Where is your earthly check/balance, if i may ask?
How do you avoid becoming a law unto yourself?
Our morals that you think only come from your God himself is not true. Morality is something that has grown and expanded among many different cultures. Take for example China, they were a race isolated from most of the world who developed a moral system. They didn't worship or even know your God. The ancient Greeks developed there's and a great amount of philosophy which we still learn from today, and none of them knew Jesus.The answer to your question is 'nothing.' If there is no transcendent ultimate authority in the universe, there is no such thing as 'morality.' There is no right or wrong, good or evil. These require an objective standard that does not exist in a godless universe. There's nothing but subjective personal preferences, i.e. opinions, which are no more than the product of chemical reactions in your brain. For an atheist to make 'moral judgements' is to be inconsistent with your own godless, naturalistic worldview and ultimately meaningless.
I didn’t know Pandas were trolls.....
I don't live under a bridge you know, and I don't eat children.I didn’t know Pandas were trolls.....
took me a minute to get you here, but ya. i could present some arguments by defining some of your terms differently, for instance a human led by Christ might be sufficient, but that is basically a subject change or maybe an exception. prolly.Human teachers are insufficient, if that is all someone has they would be better off never knowing the bible and reinforcing those teachings through false interpretations.
unless one of the Names is Morality, which i think i could make a case for.Our morals that you think only come from your God himself is not true.
is it moral to kill cannibals, hmm. good Q.As for the Bibles morality, is it moral for your God to kill the Canaanite children or any children for that fact.
if "child" was symbolic of something else, then yes. a spiritual child iowWould you kill a child if God told you too?