Dinosaur conspiracy!?

[amadeus]

Yes they do...I am sure you have seen your fair share too....I was so 'ignorant/innocent' in the beginning about the things of God and certainly Christians, as I was believing people would be over the moon to find out that Jesus is right here beside us at all times, whether we have our back toward Him or not....I sure was.......But I haven't found too many believers who were happy to hear that :)

People like a black and white set of rules to go by for easy reference. Because people differ in what the rules should or should not say there lots of denominations available working to fill someone's requirements. Then there are a few people who are simply wanting to stay in touch with God all of the time. We've only considered those labeled as Christian. We won't discuss those without that label.

Give God the glory!

 

[pia]

Give God the glory!

Absolutely always and in all things :)

 

[Windmill Charge]

you posit some grand conspiracy of scientists, who use evo because it is the best explanation, period, not bc they are antichrist or anything.

"evolutionists will not permit evolution to be publicly challenged" like they have a lock on the internet or something lol pls.

No I don't suggest that evolutionist meet in darken rooms and huddle together to whisper about how they are going to stop the 'truth' being publicly made know.

But there is concensus by evolution believing scientists etc that creation is not science and that it should not be allowed to be taught in places of education or that evolution should not be critically examined by students.

I have challenged you to provide evidence that evolution has taken place. Guess what you can't supply any and that after a normal education and indoctrination by David Attenborough.

If evolution is scientific fact scientists etc should be queueing up to ram those facts down Ken Hams throat. So why aren't they.
Answer. They don't have any facts and so use weasel words like, 'not wanting to give him respectability by debating him'.

 

[kiwimac]

Obviously? How is it obvious? Man and dinos walked on the earth at the same time. ANd he did mention in His book. See here is another example of you telling people tha facts and you are 100% wrong. Dions are mentioned in the bible. But you didnt know that. But your speaking as if you know what your talking about. Wonder if you are doing the same thing with healing?

Here is the verses that relate to it. Wonder if you will say I just dont believe it. Thats is called cognitive dissonance.

No, no they did not. The Bible is not and never was a science text.

 

[Ally.s.j]

No, no they did not. The Bible is not and never was a science text.

Well thank you for the 100% irrefutible, concrete proof there mate. Thats awsome.

Ps "no they did not" what? What are you talking about?

Once again. Thats is called cognitive dissonance.

 

[bbyrd009]

But there is concensus by evolution believing scientists etc that creation is not science and that it should not be allowed to be taught in places of education or that evolution should not be critically examined by students.

Thank God for small favors i guess. i note that they aren't pushing santa claus or the easter bunny either

If evolution is scientific fact scientists etc should be queueing up to ram those facts down Ken Hams throat. So why aren't they.

ah, never heard of him, sorry. My guess is most of those scientists couldn't care less what Ken thinks, Ken is allowed to have his own opinion i guess, ol Ken can believe the earth is flat too if he wants

They don't have any facts

i don't see anyone except believers saying that they do either, wadr. Why bother to debate such ppl?

 

[pia]

This is so odd, because I was brought into being a believer without a Bible nor a church, and I have noticed over the past few decades, that a whole lot of things Jesus has taught me, IS actually science.....He had me go over and over the first chapter of Genesis for a long long time, and each time, I could see something I hadn't understood before.....If you remove the parts :" God said " you will see a very familiar list of things science has been telling us for some time, BUT they leave out the Creator and thus they miss the wonder of their discoveries.....Every single word in it must be really looked at ( taken in ) from Genesis 1, and the order in which it is listed.....I was certainly very astonished.

 

[bbyrd009]

BUT they leave out the Creator and thus they miss the wonder of their discoveries

Einstein explained the mechanics of this, although his characterization is quite diff from yours. I guess you could also put it, see, that they just refrain from referring to established facts discovered empirically as "God said," whereas "God said" is employed in the Book as a way to express "this is an established fact," not "i heard God's voice say this," at least not necessarily.

iow a scientist might easily be seeking after God, but they are just by definition employed in discovering a more useful answer than "God said" or "God did it."

 

[bbyrd009]

Balancing the tightrope

The evolving biosphere is governed by two distinct processes and science has only figured one out, namely mutation and natural selection. Natural selection obviously occurs but it fails to explain two things:

• Where did RNA and DNA come from in the first place?
• If competition is really the driving force behind evolution, how come no organism has ever won?

Exactly the same questions plague cosmology. Where did the ur-singularity come from, and why is it that the universe has been expanding for 15 billion years without settling into Heat Death or crunching back into a singularity? Why is it that the universe expands at precisely the right rate, not too fast and not too slow?

The usual cop-out answer is that it only had to happen once, but it didn't only happen once; evolution too has a very precise balance. If random mutations make all the difference, why has there never been a mutation that made one species so much better than all the others that it ate all the others and now is the only one? Why is there still such a wide diversity of life after such a long period of brutal struggle for dominance? Why has no single language taken over the world? Why has no empire every conquered all?

All around us rhinos dance on tightropes and no one ever falls off. Why is there so much balance in the universe and what preserves it?
Patterns in the Bible

 

[7angels]

i have always wondered about the dino theory. scripture does not say but there are scriptures that point in the dino theory being possible. does anyone know how old the earth really is? about 6000 years is when creation started but if you read gen 1:1 and 1:2 you will find that God created the heavens and the earth in gen 1:1 and yet gen 1:2 says that "the earth was without form, and void". if you look up those 2 words in strongs you see that it refers to dead and basically non livable. now the bible tells us everything God does is good. so how can a world that is basically dead be good? so if everything God does is good then what happened to cause the world to become basically dead? i think it is in ez that talks about satan being cast down and it talks of how there were people and trade and ect already there. how was this possible since adam and eve were not created until after satan was casted down? so is it possible that God destroyed the world once already and adam and eve were the second? could dines of lived and then died off when the first world was destroyed? the bible does not say but it points to scripture that says it could be possible.

also what about all the lizard drawing that are all over ancient ruins? where did they see them? there are too many similarities between drawing of similar lizard drawing from ruins that are not even near each other. so what if noah brought some on the ark as babies? lizards are territorial and as mankind grows they expand and push out anything that gets in their way. look at history as an example. the lizards could of been killed off over time. there are fire breathing lizards still alive today. science has proven that lizards never stop growing as long as they have enough food and space to grow. this can be proven by fish in a fish tank. they will only grow so big unless released or put into something bigger.

just food for thought.

God bless

 

[Enoch111]

They lived and walked ..and I have no clue when they lived or why they died..but they did, no doubt about it.

Dinosaurs must have lived until the Flood of Noah's day, and they perished in that Flood. That is the most likely explanation. For details study the Genesis Flood by Whitcomb and Morris (scientists who are also Christians).

"One of those classic works on my shelf is The Genesis Flood by Drs. Henry Morris and John Whitcomb. This seminal work in 1961 defined the science and Bible debate in the 20th century and propelled Henry Morris into such prominence that even his detractors refer to him as the father of the modern creation science movement. Published by Presbyterian & Reformed publishers, The Genesis Flood has been continuously in print for 50 years, and the Institute for Creation Research, which was founded by Dr. Morris in 1970, celebrates the impact of this work and these men..."
https://www.icr.org/i/pdf/af/af1102.pdf

However dinosaurs are being used by evolutionists to teach kids that they lived about 200 million years ago, and perished because of meteorites. In contrast, humans appeared on earth (according to evolution) 4-7 million years ago. This is all pure conjecture but being fed as *science*.

According to Scripture, Adam was created about 6,000 years ago, and was probably surrounded by dinosaurs.

 

[Helen]

Dinosaurs must have lived until the Flood of Noah's day, and they perished in that Flood. That is the most likely explanation. For details study the Genesis Flood by Whitcomb and Morris (scientists who are also Christians).

"One of those classic works on my shelf is The Genesis Flood by Drs. Henry Morris and John Whitcomb. This seminal work in 1961 defined the science and Bible debate in the 20th century and propelled Henry Morris into such prominence that even his detractors refer to him as the father of the modern creation science movement. Published by Presbyterian & Reformed publishers, The Genesis Flood has been continuously in print for 50 years, and the Institute for Creation Research, which was founded by Dr. Morris in 1970, celebrates the impact of this work and these men..."
https://www.icr.org/i/pdf/af/af1102.pdf

However dinosaurs are being used by evolutionists to teach kids that they lived about 200 million years ago, and perished because of meteorites. In contrast, humans appeared on earth (according to evolution) 4-7 million years ago. This is all pure conjecture but being fed as *science*.

According to Scripture, Adam was created about 6,000 years ago, and was probably surrounded by dinosaurs.

Interesting.
I always had the dinosaurs and ugly things re-this earth...pre Satan being cast down here.
I would find it strange is Adam saw them. For its says Noah took the clean and unclean into the ark. Why would they be left out if they were here?

What did your book say about prehistoric man? Where do they think that they fit in? I also have them on earth with the prehistoric animals.

I just thought/read somewhere.... that when it says " without form and void" the void word they should read chaos. ( after the war between God and Satan)

When my kids were young I knew that at some point they would ask me about them. So like I say...I told them that prehistoric man and animals were here before Satan had war with God and got thrown out. Satan being angry at being cast down destroyed the then earth.
True or not, it satisfied them.

mmmm great mysteries that God/ Moses did not clearly tell us about.

I find it fascinating, as mysteries always are. :)

PS. Not sure if I mention in any old posts above.
But I live not far from Drumheller. I haven't been to the dinosaur museum there for over a decade...we used to enjoy it.
Hundreds have been dug up in those hills around Drumheller. And they are still finding them... No one really knows why such a huge heard died there.
I love all that kind of stuff .....

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Interesting.
I always had the dinosaurs and ugly things re-this earth...pre Satan being cast down here.
I would find it strange is Adam saw them. For its says Noah took the clean and unclean into the ark. Why would they be left out if they were here?

What did your book say about prehistoric man? Where do they think that they fit in? I also have them on earth with the prehistoric animals.

I just thought/read somewhere.... that when it says " without form and void" the void word they should read chaos. ( after the war between God and Satan)

When my kids were young I knew that at some point they would ask me about them. So like I say...I told them that prehistoric man and animals were here before Satan had war with God and got thrown out. Satan being angry at being cast down destroyed the then earth.
True or not, it satisfied them.

mmmm great mysteries that God/ Moses did not clearly tell us about.

I find it fascinating, as mysteries always are. :)

PS. Not sure if I mention in any old posts above.
But I live not far from Drumheller. I haven't been to the dinosaur museum there for over a decade...we used to enjoy it.
Hundreds have been dug up in those hills around Drumheller. And they are still finding them... No one really knows why such a huge heard died there.
I love all that kind of stuff .....

Everything we need to know is in the Bible.
Believing in things outside the
Bible is worldliness.
It is worthless and pollutes the spiritual mind.

 

[Triumph1300]

I haven't been to the dinosaur museum there for over a decade..

We have been there at least 4 times.
I always get a kick out of: "This one lived here between 1 million and 2 million years ago"
The "between" really gets me. Any idea actually how long "million" is? Lol
I question everything in that place. And don't believe any of it.
But I guess I'm a different kind of a guy.

Up north in BC they found human foot imprints next to dynasaur tracks.
I always think: "Pre-Adamite times".
But I could be wrong. ;-)

 

[Helen]

We have been there at least 4 times.
I always get a kick out of: "This one lived here between 1 million and 2 million years ago"
The "between" really gets me. Any idea actually how long "million" is? Lol
I question everything in that place. And don't believe any of it.
But I guess I'm a different kind of a guy.

Up north in BC they found human foot imprints next to dynasaur tracks.
I always think: "Pre-Adamite times".
But I could be wrong. ;-)

Ha! Yes it's a fun place...and they speak with such authority on it!

Yes, it is a sealed subject really...no one really knows where they fit.
Or prehistoric man either.

Makes me think of the words of Jesus:-
" I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes."
I guess that puts us in the ranks of the wise and prudent..because it is well hidden from us, and we don't really have a clue!

 

[Triumph1300]

All that counts is what happened on that cross 2000 years ago.

 

[Enoch111]

I told them that prehistoric man and animals were here before Satan had war with God and got thrown out.

The only problem is that the Bible refutes any such concept as "prehistoric man". Some have tried to develop the Gap Theory (that there is a gap between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2), but since the Bible makes it clear that (a) all human beings have descended from Adam and (b) all human beings are subject to sin and death because of Adam, there cannot be any "pre-historic man" before Adam.

As to why dinosaurs were rendered extinct, only God knows.

 

[Helen]

The only problem is that the Bible refutes any such concept as "prehistoric man". Some have tried to develop the Gap Theory (that there is a gap between Gen 1:1 and Gen 1:2), but since the Bible makes it clear that (a) all human beings have descended from Adam and (b) all human beings are subject to sin and death because of Adam, there cannot be any "pre-historic man" before Adam.

As to why dinosaurs were rendered extinct, only God knows.

Hmmm so where do the stone age and bronze age man fit in...?
Too many caves show too many drawing to not have some truth in them...
I don't think Adam grunted or made himself spear heads of bone ....

Does your book say nothing of them?

 

[Enoch111]

Hmmm so where do the stone age and bronze age man fit in...?
Too many caves show too many drawing to not have some truth in them...

Since all civilizations were wiped out after the Flood, it is more than likely that after the Flood people began living in caves until they re-established villages and towns. The Bible does not teach evolution, and does not speak about cave-men. We should also keep in mind that in many parts of the world, people still live in very primitive conditions, and there are primitive tribes all over the world -- even very similar to cavemen.

 

[Mayflower]

I believe this refers to a dinosaur in the Bible...

"Behold now, Behemoth, which I made as well as you; He eats grass like an ox.
Job 40:15 NASB


A large monstrous creature...