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[Helen]

I see your point. IMHO Trump is an exception. I rarely commented on politicans or politics before Trump. He is the greatest danger America has faced since WWII. We may not recover, depending on eroded our confidence in instutitions is

Nah, you have made it an obsession.
Just 'roll it on the Lord' nothing slips passed Him. He's got it...and if this is the beginning of the end...then it is time...this old world is tired...

 

[Nancy]

I see your point. IMHO Trump is an exception. I rarely commented on politicans or politics before Trump. He is the greatest danger America has faced since WWII. We may not recover, depending on how eroded our confidence in instutitions becomes

Who knows, maybe God allowed him to take office to usher in a new phase of end times?

 

[Philip James]

We may not recover, depending on how eroded our confidence in instutitions becomes

From my perspective north of the border, it seems to me confidence has already eroded... That is how a man like Trump got elected...

Watching US politics from here is almost like watching a bloodsport... Hope you guys stick with the peacuful handover of power thing....

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I see your point. IMHO Trump is an exception. I rarely commented on politicans or politics before Trump. He is the greatest danger America has faced since WWII. We may not recover, depending on how eroded our confidence in instutitions becomes

The USA was on the road to Communism before Trump and we had a total moron Clinton wanting to go to war with Russia.
Russia is sick of Communism they have lived it and know it's hell.

The Satanic Talmud Zionist claim to be Jews but they are not Jewish at all, but come from the Golden Calf mob who tried to kill Moses and worked to destroy Israel and Judah, if you ever read the Bible you would know that that Star they have on the flag is of Satan. the same mob who worship Moloch and are behind the evils of abortion and support for Child molesters and Sodomites.
Not to mention bankrupting the USA and milking the tax payers full on.

If Trump was president 20 years ago or more there would be no big deal in what he does or says at all.
It's only that the Satanist have brainwashed the people with just trash.

You want to look around yourself and see who supports what H Clinton was on about, all Satanist Anti-Christ for sure.
You don't see Anti-Christ mobs supporting Trump do ya.

 

[aspen]

The USA was on the road to Communism before Trump and we had a total moron Clinton wanting to go to war with Russia.
Russia is sick of Communism they have lived it and know it's hell.

The Satanic Talmud Zionist claim to be Jews but they are not Jewish at all, but come from the Golden Calf mob who tried to kill Moses and worked to destroy Israel and Judah, if you ever read the Bible you would know that that Star they have on the flag is of Satan. the same mob who worship Moloch and are behind the evils of abortion and support for Child molesters and Sodomites.
Not to mention bankrupting the USA and milking the tax payers full on.

If Trump was president 20 years ago or more there would be no big deal in what he does or says at all.
It's only that the Satanist have brainwashed the people with just trash.

You want to look around yourself and see who supports what H Clinton was on about, all Satanist Anti-Christ for sure.
You don't see Anti-Christ mobs supporting Trump do ya.

I am tired of your blaming and your conspiracy theories, reggie. A special message I received today has reminded me that I need to take out the garbage before i break any rules on this board...

So ignore you I shall.

Take care

 

[aspen]

Who knows, maybe God allowed him to take office to usher in a new phase of end times?

Yeah, who knows...

I sure know a lot of people who are convinced that they do know

 

[aspen]

That is TOTAL NONSENSE. What a humiliating day for (1) Hillary Clinton, (2) John Brennan, (3) Robert Mueller, and (4) all the Deep State operatives trying to sabotage Trump and undermine what America stands for.

Both Trump and Putin exposed the lies of the DNC, DOJ, FBI, and the DEEP STATE. And everyone should be thankful that lies did not prevail. What Trump should now do is fire all these people, and then have them prosecuted by an independent Special Prosecutor.

As to your quote from John McCain, he should be ashamed of himself for his vile and wicked accusations against Trump WHICH HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO SUBSTANCE. John McCain is the traitor who handed that phony Trump dossier to the FBI in order to destroy Trump, so let's never forget how evil this man is. And that is why he made these stupid remarks.

John McCain handed Donald Trump dossier to FBI
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11781169

And we now know that this so-called dossier was UTTER RUBBISH. TOTAL GARBAGE. I am amazed that any Christian would support blatant lies and trumped-up charges against anyone.

Your posts are toxic.....my peace of mind is at risk every time I read your venom. Ignore

 

[aspen]

The same reasoning doesn't count for the reasons I gave, which of course you ignore. And yes, to apply that reasoning to muslims, it does not serve my best interest as my interest is Christian and Bible believing America.

Which begs the question as to 'your' best interest. muslim? minority? Oh, I forgot...your Irish. Ok.

Stranger

Long overdue ignore

 

[Nancy]

Yeah, who knows...

I sure know a lot of people who are convinced that they do know

Yeah, lot of that flying around here. lol.

 

[bbyrd009]

In the US we have no National Religion, and no counterpart Religious Official.
Our political Representatives are Subject to A Constitution ... Not a Religion

sounds good, i mean you could put it on a plaque or something if you like i guess, but i'm sure at least as many "Americans" would argue the "Christian Nation" thing, right, and fwiw i don't believe either one. Your political reps take a dump on the Connie the day they get to DC and begin enjoying the privileges (omg, i finally spelled that right) that the Connie specifically forbids. If they were really subject to it you guys would be talking about exercising your 2nd Amendment rights imo. Don't worry, they're not.

 

[bbyrd009]

Your posts are toxic.....my peace of mind is at risk every time I read your venom. Ignore

aside from being dangerously uninformed, ya. I felt like i was reading Orwell every time, "Trump and Putin expose lies" lol

 

[bbyrd009]

Vote your conscience yes, Pray for them, yes. Follow the laws of the land, yes. Faith in ANY of them? Nah...not this gal.

i don't see that first one anywhere in the Book tbh. Vote for your favorite king?
But you have no faith in any of them.
I'd like to suggest that you are condemning yourself when you participate in the process at all,
not that we don't all do extremely heinous things just bc we are familiar with them

 

[bbyrd009]

I see your point. IMHO Trump is an exception. I rarely commented on politicans or politics before Trump. He is the greatest danger America has faced since WWII. We may not recover, depending on how eroded our confidence in instutitions becomes

no state in the Decline/Decadence stage has ever "recovered" yet i guess
so see what you are doing when you say "we" there imo.
but i agree, y'all are prolly not going to recover

 

[Nancy]

i don't see that first one anywhere in the Book tbh. Vote for your favorite king?
But you have no faith in any of them.
I'd like to suggest that you are condemning yourself when you participate in the process at all,
not that we don't all do extremely heinous things just bc we are familiar with them

I never voted until the 2nd Bush admin. I got deep into politics and as a result, lost some friends (we are all friends again, ---- God is so good. Family members and friends would just parrot EVERYTHING they heard from Faux "news"...it was killing me as I really DID dig to find the truth, ever sit there for hours watching C-Span? Yeah exciting, lol. That lasted for several years, I was walking in the flesh and soooo into the arguments but, finally let it ALL go. Was not at all worth trying to make someone "see your side" while they are doing same.
And, I must say bbyrd, I do not even know why I still vote. Habit? Sence of duty? Dunno. ♥
-nancy

 

[Taken]

sounds good, i mean you could put it on a plaque or something if you like i guess, but i'm sure at least as many "Americans" would argue the "Christian Nation" thing, right, and fwiw i don't believe either one. Your political reps take a dump on the Connie the day they get to DC and begin enjoying the privileges (omg, i finally spelled that right) that the Connie specifically forbids. If they were really subject to it you guys would be talking about exercising your 2nd Amendment rights imo. Don't worry, they're not.

Speaking of what was ESTABLISHED, is one thing...
Speaking of HOW men CORRUPT what was ESTABLISHED, is another thing.

What was ESTABLISHED, was the US Constitution, which was sufficient.

What was QUICKLY "ADDED" ..
(Out of "fear" of men...
To the "detriment" of men...
was the so called, "Bill of Rights"...ie the first
10 AMENDMENTS to the US Constitution).

The Detriment IS:..
BECAUSE the "AMENDMENTS" were ADDED..
And men "NOT" paying attention to WHAT IS "IN" THE CONSTITUTION ....
WHICH IS....
IF SOMETHING IS "IN" the Constitution...
The governing Offices, and Representatives OF those OFFICES....CAN AND DO...enact LAWS...GOVERNING WHAT IS "IN" the US Constitution.

"IF" those "AMENDMENTS, had NEVER BEEN ADDED....

...THOSE RIGHTS would have (according TO the Constitution) would have by default REMANDED TO the People

"BUT" Because they APPEAR, "IN" the US Constitution...LAW MAKERS CAN AND DO, enact LAWS specific TO those Amendments.

It is the Peoples' own ERROR of IGNORANCE for Demanding and Having Agreed to "THOSE" Amendments.

And TODAY....men think those Amendments are SIMPLY guarantees of RIGHTS....when in FACT they ARE a BACKDOOR for Political Officers TO CONTROL and CORRUPT those RIGHTS.

And the Argument rolls ON.

Alexander Hamilton was a highly educated man, who at length argued AGAINST "those" Amendments......he understanding the ramifications of GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE, and enacting LAWS that in fact, CORRUPTS the LIBERTY of THE People.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[Taken]

IMHO-getting so into "politics" and getting so extreem about it, is putting your faith in the cares of "this world". Vote your conscience yes, Pray for them, yes. Follow the laws of the land, yes. Faith in ANY of them? Nah...not this gal.

FAITH IN THEM? Nah....ditto.

One in "A" leadership position, can "state" their desires.
One in "A" leadership position can "state" their intent to "effect" their desires....

However One in "A" leadership position in our Government Never has the SOLE Authority.

There is Always someone in Opposition to them. (And the One in "A" leadership position, does not always know who is scheming Against them.)

Men are not All knowing....nor are we taught to HAVE "FAITH" in men, but rather...Have FAITH IN God.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[Taken]

I see your point. IMHO Trump is an exception. I rarely commented on politicans or politics before Trump. He is the greatest danger America has faced since WWII. We may not recover, depending on how eroded our confidence in instutitions becomes

What is this "DANGER" Trump has positioned YOU IN?

Perhaps you could start a thread and inform us of TRUMPS Ideas and Actions that have cause you such grevious DANGER that you have compared that DANGER to a surprise ATTACK of over 350 planes of a foreign nation on US Soil?

 

[brakelite]

From my perspective north of the border, it seems to me confidence has already eroded... That is how a man like Trump got elected...

Watching US politics from here is almost like watching a bloodsport... Hope you guys stick with the peacuful handover of power thing....

Before Jesus comes, there will not be one person on the planet with any trust in any institution whatever. God did not allow institutions that we should rely on them. God will remove that reliance in man made organisations in order to turn our hearts toward him. Any faith in any institution is misdirected.

 

[Helen]

I never voted until the 2nd Bush admin. I got deep into politics and as a result, lost some friends (we are all friends again, ---- God is so good. Family members and friends would just parrot EVERYTHING they heard from Faux "news"...it was killing me as I really DID dig to find the truth, ever sit there for hours watching C-Span? Yeah exciting, lol. That lasted for several years, I was walking in the flesh and soooo into the arguments but, finally let it ALL go. Was not at all worth trying to make someone "see your side" while they are doing same.
And, I must say bbyrd, I do not even know why I still vote. Habit? Sence of duty? Dunno. ♥
-nancy

Don't you feel that most of our voting "these days" is against, not so much for anyone. ...that is the way my voting goes anyway.

 

[bbyrd009]

What was ESTABLISHED, was the US Constitution, which was sufficient.

ha, good one.

what was really established was Manifest Destiny i guess
but if you believe you can serve "the Constitution" and God,
then that is what you believe.

personally i choose "no king," for what are to me pretty foreboding reasons,
"I will not listen to your prayers in that day."