People "have" the Holy Spirit that guides them into all truth.
Not the Problem.
Get ready, for Daves idea of why ....
The "People" .
Dave first says; "People have"...
Then "implies" the "PEOPLE" who have the Holy Spirit that guides them to all truth.... is not sufficient.
Daves introduction of an accusation AGAINST the "People", "who have", the Holy Spirit....
By Declaring, the People "do not TRUST God."
In essence, "the People who Have the Holy Spirit....Have FOOLED GOD!.....but not Dave.
Now Dave introduces WHAT (Specific) People with the Holy Spirit, DO NOT TRUST.
to show them the truth in books written by the teachers of the church.
According to Dave.......
"People" ( "WITH the Holy Spirit" ) ...
Supposedly "do not trust God"...IF they
"DO NOT" accept "books" /writings of men,
"THAT IS NOT THE BIBLE"!
You cannot know the truth unless exposed to it.
That is TRUE.
But somehow books are bad because people (full of the Holy Spirit) wrote them.
Dave your teaching and instigation and accusations ARE FLAWED!
First of all YOU can not "KNOW" WHO IS FULL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT OR NOT.
You Can only "KNOW" a man by what he DOES.
Men WRITE BOOKS, writings, and at ANYTIME can CHANGE their own thoughts, about what they wrote! They can even REWRITE or REVISE their own thoughts....or not.
Not one person has proclaimed, BOOKS are bad. (This is simply you setting up a FALSE premise to continue your finger wagging at people who disagree with you).
You can read their writings....and spend your time VERIFYING it against WHAT GOD APPROVED....."OR"
YOU could do what MEN on this FORUM have TOLD YOU THEY DO......Skipping past spending their time READING WHAT MEN HAVE WRITTEN OUT SIDE OF THE BIBLE...
AND INSTEAD SPEND THEIR TIME and "TRUST" IN READING and LEARNING from the BOOK of Scriptures THAT God HIMSELF APPROVED!
Men who HAVE the HOLY SPIRIT....HAVE a BOOK written by men, THAT GOD HIMSELF approved!
God Approved the Scriptures.
The scriptures are written and published.
It does not matter IF the men who wrote it, or once believed it, and "Changed their thoughts"........GOD DIDN'T.
Dave YOU are attempting to EXALT writings of Men, "equal to or above" TRUSTING Gods Approved writings!
And your ATTEMPTS have repeatedly been rejected.
It is obvious, you are disappointed at the Rejection of your ideas and your teaching....
Since, your reaction to the rejection IS to THEN make PERSONAL derragatory remarks toward the People who have rejected your teaching.
Dave ~ your tactics are as old as the hills.
Nothing new; and easily recognized.
If YOU are incapable of Reading the scriptures Approved of God, and require OTHER MEN to read it for you, and then POINT OUT highlights YOU SHOULD focus on.....
THAT'S YOU.
No one has bad mouthed you for what YOU proclaim is Helpful FOR YOU.
Unlike YOU, who has bad mouthed people WHO do not require the HELP or FASHION of HELP you require.
Have some common sense. Not everyone is Like you. Some men have the capability to Read Gods Approved Scriptural writings AND trust the writings without an Unapproved Third Party dictating to them.
By YOUR method, men have to make VOWS to men to TRUST "their" writings.
By OTHER mens method, men make VOWS to God, to TRUST "GODS approved" writings.
YOU, are attempting to take it upon yourself, that ALL MEN "should" trust "other mens writings"......WHY?
Some men have ALREADY TOLD YOU....THEY are confident TRUSTING the WRITINGS that God Himself Approved, is sufficient.
So...Dave....put aside your finger wagging AT People.... AND PROVE Gods own Writings are "INSUFFICIENT", and that ALL MEN have NO OPTION but to "TRUST" what OTHER men DO, and mimic THEM.
We'll wait for your explanation...
Glory to God,
Taken