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I responded in #733.Questions on post #730 and 731
Commentary defined (Merriam Webster): an expression of opinion
Mary
PS....@nancy thinks I don't post in the debate forum
Yes, you did write some words but none of it makes sense. I will try to decipher it the best I can and here is my best guess:
Revelation 18 is depicting a three fold NWO union of "Babylon" which is the papacy, "kings of the Earth" which are the leaders in cahoots with her, and the "merchants of the Earth" which are the economic elite. Of course this union did not exist in John's day.
That's the easiest question I've had all day: "Here is the patience of the saints. Here are they who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus." Revelation 14:12
....and that's the stupidest thing I've heard all day...The Bible is clear that God has His people in Babylon (Revelation 18:4) and is calling for them to come out of Babylon before they are destroyed with it. So, do you now understand that while the Bible identifies the papacy (the union of the catholic church and the secular state) as "Babylon", it does not condemn anyone who has been deceived by Babylon's teachings, but calls for them to come out of her and follow only Christ?
Babylon has "daughters" - apostate Protestant churches which teach an unBiblical Christ, commandments of men, and will eventually unite with the papacy in persecution of God's true faithful...of course you won't believe it - most don't want to. Because the idea of giving one's self fully, totally, 110% in surrender to Christ -- what we think, what we say, what we eat, what we drink, where we go, what forms of entertainment we imbibe, etc. -- is just too much; it is "offensive" to them, as Paul said the Cross would be, so they delude themselves with false Christs which say, "do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law", unto their own destruction.
Thank you....I don't understand a word you said but if it makes sense to you....more power to ya'.
Here it is in plain English: God's end time church are those "which keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."
All Churches claim to "keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Who decides which ones are not? YOU???
It's really as simple as reading the Ten Commandments and then asking "Is my church following them as written by the finger of God?" The answer is simple: the catholic church is not, as are most churches. The Bible is the test of our faith, not the word of men.All Churches claim to "keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Who decides which ones are not? YOU???
Obviously you do think it is you since you have decided that the CC does not do those things. Who gave you that authority?
Mary
Hmmmmm.....so if a Church is following the Ten Commandments then that means they are one of Gods Churches!!! If they add anything to that they are not one of Gods Churches!!!!! Fascinating.....I have never heard that theory.
It isn't about authority for us. It is for you, because you have to justify centuries of persecution and extermination against anyone who happened along with a piece of scripture and disagree with your church. We do not need authority to judge between what is correct and what is not. Just discernment.
No, not every church does claim that...certainly not your church. Your church even changed God's law to suit her own convenience. That also means a claim to having authority...not on our part, but on yours...I do not remember ever having been taught by any of my former priest/teachers that the church had authority to change God's own laws that were written by His own finger on stone.
Not a theory. God Himself through the apostle John described His own church of the last days as keeping the commandments of God and having the faith and/or testimony of Jesus. Revelation 12:17 & 14:6 in direct contradistinction to those who receive the l=mark of the beast, and who therefore do not keep God's commandments.
Your killing me......You don't need authority to judge what is correct and not correct????? Isn't that what "judging" is????
You are an interesting person.....
Marymog, is the catholic church teaching the faithful to obey the Ten Commandments as they were written by the finger of God, or does the catholic church claim the power to make up their own?
You claimed elsewhere that the Catholic church gave us the Bible. I disagree, but for the sake of argument I will go along with it in the meantime. So the Catholic church, in giving the Bible, must surely agree on where God's laws come from...God...right? So the Bible your church gave, must be the authority on what God's law is...after all, it is the word of God, right? So it isn't me, or you, or even the church who decides what God's law is...it can only be God Himself who decides such things, for His law is sacred and holy, and only the giver of that law can therefore alter or set it aside right? So why does your church, and why do you, not keep and teach that law as it was given by God on Mt Sinai? Why does your church teach another law, and obey that in direct opposition to the law given to us by God Himself?
Yes, the CC teaches to obey the 10 Commandments.
If the CC (which was The Church at the time which is NOW called the CC) didn't give us the Bible, who did? If your answer is God then WHO did God give the table of contents to?
Specifically, I ask if the catholic church teaches the Ten Commandments as written by the finger of God and found in Exodus 20?
Absolutely.
If you want to talk about the Catechism of the Catholic Church how about if you QUOTE the Catechism????
Hi Phoneman,
