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You do not understand these passages or you would not be continually wrestling with them. God does not have a split personality as you say calling it "diversified oneness".who's arguing? what's the problem is you cannot reconcile John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24 as the same person. because if you do, by telling the truth it would destroy your trinity belief.
PICJAG
who's arguing? what's the problem is you cannot reconcile John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24 as the same person. because if you do, by telling the truth it would destroy your trinity belief.
PICJAG
many say Jesus, (the son) and YHWH (the Father), are two separate and distinct persons.Of course Jesus and YHWH are the same. But what is your point with that?
thanks for the reply. YES, we know Jesus is the WAY, but is the Lord Jesus in John 1:3 the same person there in Isaiah 44:24. yes or no?John 14:6 - I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man comes to the Father except through me.
Yep. Jesus is and has been the second person of the Trinity since the beginning of time
Yes it is.thanks for the reply. YES, we know Jesus is the WAY, but is the Lord Jesus in John 1:3 the same person there in Isaiah 44:24. yes or no?
PICJAG.
Thanks, so the "LORD" and the "Lord" is the same person, correct?Yes it is.
They are the same God yes. No the same person of the Trinity noThanks, so the "LORD" and the "Lord" is the same person, correct?
PICJAG
ok, if they are not the same PERSON, the one in John 1:3 said to "MAKE" all things. and he is identified as the Word, (Jesus the Son). but the person in Isaiah 44:24 who said he "MADE" all things by himself, and he said that he was alone when he made all things. this person holds the title "LORD", and the Person in John 1:3 holds the title "Lord". so are you saying that the "PERSON" in John 1:3 is not the Person in Isaiah 44:24?They are the same God yes. No the same person of the Trinity no
many say Jesus, (the son) and YHWH (the Father), are two separate and distinct persons.
iif not tell us who the Father and the Son are then.
PICJAJ
what question, please give me the post #, I must have missed that.First you have to answer my question:
The voice which spoke during Jesus' baptism, did it speak truth?
While we wait on Mjh29 in reconciling of John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24.
one problem that the UPC Oneness have is this. if God is the same and ON
what question, please give me the post #, I must have missed that.
I did see post #727.The voice which spoke during Jesus' baptism, did it speak truth?
@marks, or Mjh29.
if either of you can reconcile the John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24 question, looking to hear from either of you,
be blessed.
PICJAG.
did you not read my Post #727? I did answer you.Only if you answer my question first:
The voice which spoke during Jesus' baptism, did it speak truth?
Me, I'd answer "yes." What about you?
Much love!
mark
Just as much as this voice from heaven that spoke the truth.
Genesis 22:11 "And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.
Genesis 22:12 "And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me".
Now, do the bible, the holy scriptures said that the voice from heaven is God's voice yes or no?
PICJAG.
did I not say that, and now answer my question, give book chapter and verse that say the Voice from heaven at the Lord Jesus baptism is God's Voice?.So . . . is that a Yes?
did I not say that, and now answer my question, give book chapter and verse that say the Voice from heaven at the Lord Jesus baptism is God's Voice?.
we'll be looking for that verse of scripture,
PICJAG.