The Coming Great Apostasy

[Phoneman777]

You just lack understanding., Is it Gods fault that men prefer there religions and there doctrines to truth, it funny how you come and accuse all those who do not keep the law as being sinners yet the bible specifically says the law is fore sinners so therefore you accuse yourself, this wont end, simply because we wont let go of Christ for religion and you wont let go of your religion to follow Christ.

You better stop keeping "thou shalt not kill" under false pretenses, friend, lest we characterize you to be as guilty as the Sabbath keepers you claim keep Sabbath under false pretenses.

 

[Phoneman777]

There is no NWO. Even in the Bible there will never be a time of one world government before the MK.

Revelation 18:1-4 would beg to differ.

There is clearly described the end time one world religious system (Babylon) which is cahoots with the one world government (kings of the Earth) and the one world economic system (merchants of the Earth).

 

[Phoneman777]

No, God did or cant your read, and Jesus is our Saviour in the NT,

Joh_7:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?

and still men dont though they boast about it.

Wait, you don't believe the God of the OT is Jesus? Even though the God of the OT is the Shepherd, Jesus says He's the Shepherd and John 11:16 says there's only ONE Shepherd?

Or that David said God is my Judge, Paul says we will stand before the Judgment seat of Jesus, and Jesus Himself said there's only "one that seeketh and Judgeth"?

Or that David said God is the Rock, Paul said that Rock was Christ, and in the same book of Psalm, the writer says the Lord ONLY is the Rock?

I can keep going if you're not yet convinced...

 

[CoreIssue]

Revelation 18:1-4 would beg to differ.

There is clearly described the end time one world religious system (Babylon) which is cahoots with the one world government (kings of the Earth) and the one world economic system (merchants of the Earth).

Lament Over Fallen Babylon
1 After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven. He had great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his splendor.
2 With a mighty voice he shouted: “ ‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!’She has become a dwelling for demons and a haunt for every impure spirit, a haunt for every unclean bird, a haunt for every unclean and detestable animal.
3 For all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries. The kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.”
Warning to Escape Babylon’s Judgment
4 Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “ ‘Come out of her, my people,’so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;

Really? What I highlighted refutes you.

 

[CoreIssue]

Wait, you don't believe the God of the OT is Jesus? Even though the God of the OT is the Shepherd, Jesus says He's the Shepherd and John 11:16 says there's only ONE Shepherd?

Or that David said God is my Judge, Paul says we will stand before the Judgment seat of Jesus, and Jesus Himself said there's only "one that seeketh and Judgeth"?

Or that David said God is the Rock, Paul said that Rock was Christ, and in the same book of Psalm, the writer says the Lord ONLY is the Rock?

I can keep going if you're not yet convinced...

Jesus did not exist before the incarnation. John 1 states the Word is God and became flesh. So Jesus didn't exist until the incarnation.

Flesh was named Jesus Christ, not the Word.

 

[Phoneman777]

Show me where the Bible gives a time limit on repentance.

Ever heard of the Unpardonable Sin? It's any sin of which we fail to repent and that failure is always a direct result of the Holy Spirit's voice being heard no more through our repeated refusal to heed His promptings.

If you think searing the conscience has nothing to do with this when it is by that very conscience the Lord speaks to us through His Spirit, then friend, you're like a drunk man walking through a field of landmines blindfolded and dressed in clown shoes.

 

[Phoneman777]

Lament Over Fallen Babylon
1 After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven. He had great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his splendor.
2 With a mighty voice he shouted: “ ‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great!’She has become a dwelling for demons and a haunt for every impure spirit, a haunt for every unclean bird, a haunt for every unclean and detestable animal.
3 For all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries. The kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries.”
Warning to Escape Babylon’s Judgment
4 Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “ ‘Come out of her, my people,’so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;

Really? What I highlighted refutes you.

Thank you for proving my point that Revelation 18:1-4 blatantly depicts the end time NWO. How the very evidence which proves it somehow in your opinion refutes it is inexplicable.

 

[Earburner]

Who wrote them in Stone???

Deu_9:10 And the LORD delivered unto me two tables of stone written with the finger of God; and on them was written according to all the words, which the LORD spake with you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly.

whose law

Luk_24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
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Joh_1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Act_13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

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Act 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
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John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
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Rom. 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

 

[CoreIssue]

Ever heard of the Unpardonable Sin? It's any sin of which we fail to repent and that failure is always a direct result of the Holy Spirit's voice being heard no more through our repeated refusal to heed His promptings.

If you think searing the conscience has nothing to do with this when it is by that very conscience the Lord speaks to us through His Spirit, then friend, you're like a drunk man walking through a field of landmines blindfolded and dressed in clown shoes.

The unpardonable sin is when one stops listening to the Holy Spirit. If you don't listen you have no hope of salvation.

Your error is trying to connect that sin to a time limit.

 

[CoreIssue]

Thank you for proving my point that Revelation 18:1-4 blatantly depicts the end time NWO. How the very evidence which proves it somehow in your opinion refutes it is inexplicable.

Where is the one world government and one world religion that passage.

Kings mean multiple nations. As does nations.

Other prophecies make it clear China and US, as examples, our enemies of the AC.

 

[Helen]

Topic- "The Coming Great Apostasy...
Hummmm strike the COMING....and we are closer to the truth.

 

[CoreIssue]

Topic- "The Coming Great Apostasy...
Hummmm strike the COMING....and we are closer to the truth.

We are in it.

 

[Phoneman777]

Jesus did not exist before the incarnation. John 1 states the Word is God and became flesh. So Jesus didn't exist until the incarnation.

Flesh was named Jesus Christ, not the Word.

Really? Are you reading that in the New World Translation? The Man Christ Jesus didn't exist in the OT, but God's Son aka the Son of God aka the Second Person of the Godhead Who became flesh most certainly existed and He was definitely the God of the OT and was He Who wrote the Ten Commandments with His own finger in Stone. Proof? Here:

"Give ear, O people, to My law...I will open My mouth in parable."

"Another parable spake Jesus...that it might be fulfilled by the mouth of the prophet, "I will open My mouth in parable".

Did Jesus give us the Ten Commandments? Oh, why yes, He did, as this one example of many irrefutably proves this.

 

[Phoneman777]

The unpardonable sin is when one stops listening to the Holy Spirit. If you don't listen you have no hope of salvation.

Your error is trying to connect that sin to a time limit.

You keep accusing me of setting a "time limit". Is that because I said "ten years"? So what? You said "the day of". Unless I specifically claim there's a time limit, please stop putting words in my mouth.

 

[CoreIssue]

Really? Are you reading that in the New World Translation? The Man Christ Jesus didn't exist in the OT, but God's Son aka the Son of God aka the Second Person of the Godhead Who became flesh most certainly existed and He was definitely the God of the OT and was He Who wrote the Ten Commandments with His own finger in Stone. Proof? Here:

"Give ear, O people, to My law...I will open My mouth in parable."

"Another parable spake Jesus...that it might be fulfilled by the mouth of the prophet, "I will open My mouth in parable".

Did Jesus give us the Ten Commandments? Oh, why yes, He did, as this one example of many irrefutably proves this.

Read your own post. It says Christ was fulfilling profits parable. Not that he was the prophet.

No, Jesus did not give us the 10 Commandments. The second person of the Trinity did, who later incarnated into the flesh of Christ. Fully human flesh and fully God in spirit. The spirit that entered the flesh.

Just like the spirit of Adam entered the body of Adam God had created.

Remember, both Adam and Christ called son of God. That is referring to their flush being created by God. He was the “father” of their flesh.

To call the flesh of Christ God you would have to also call Adam God.

 

[CoreIssue]

You keep accusing me of setting a "time limit". Is that because I said "ten years"? So what? You said "the day of". Unless I specifically claim there's a time limit, please stop putting words in my mouth.

There is no time for salvation or blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Phoneman777]

[QUOTE="CoreIssue, post: 522410, member: 7990"Kings mean multiple nations. [/QUOTE] Are the kings said to have committed fornication with her? Oh, yes, they have, haven't they? That means they are all on board united in there participation of her satanic agenda.

If you are waiting for every religious leader in the world to step down and elect a single priest, every central banker in the world to step down and elect a single CFO, and every political leader to step down and elect a single monarch, you simply have no idea what the NWO is or how the NWO agents themselves claim the NWO will be conducted. It's not about singularity, it's about UNITY of the many.

 

[Phoneman777]

There is no time for salvation or blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Why do you keep talking as if I think there is a time limit for either? For the last time, I set no limits for them. This is the last time I will tell you that.

 

[CoreIssue]

Why do you keep talking as if I think there is a time limit for either? For the last time, I set no limits for them. This is the last time I will tell you that.

Reread your posts.

 

[Phoneman777]

Read your own post. It says Christ was fulfilling profits parable. Not that he was the prophet.

No, Jesus did not give us the 10 Commandments. The second person of the Trinity did, who later incarnated into the flesh of Christ. Fully human flesh and fully God in spirit. The spirit that entered the flesh.

Just like the spirit of Adam entered the body of Adam God had created.

Remember, both Adam and Christ called son of God. That is referring to their flush being created by God. He was the “father” of their flesh.

To call the flesh of Christ God you would have to also call Adam God.

Read your Bible with open eyes. It says that the God of the OT Who wrote His law in stone would come to Earth and speak in parable and Matthew says that God Who came to do so was CHRIST JESUS, the God of the OT.