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Dave L
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If the broken off unbelieving Jews are Israel, to whom are they reattached upon believing?We are NOT replacing Jesus with the Jews (your antisemitism is showing, by the way). Your accusation is absurd. Jesus was and is the Messiah of Israel in addition to being the Savior of the whole world. It will be a blessed day throughout heaven and earth when they finally recognize "Him whom they have pierced". Here are some points to counter your accusation: 1) The Talmud is NOT authoritative in the way that the Tanakh is. The Tanakh is what we know as our OT--the Torah is the first five books of the Tanakh--Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. Jesus very frequently quoted from Deuteronomy. Paul quoted from Deuteronomy as well. Neither quoted from the Talmud which was basically, the Oral Law written down along with the discussions (some of which are very odd) from various rabbis. Nor did they quote from the Oral Law itself. 2)To which Talmud are you referring? The Babylonian Talmud is probably the more popular because it is easier to understand while the Jerusalem Talmud (which was not written in Jerusalem, by the way--it was written in Tiberias) is much more inscrutable. 3) There could be references to "Yeshu"--similar to the shortening of Joshua (English for Yeshua) to Josh but there is no way of knowing that Jesus of Nazareth, Our Savior, is being referenced. There is a lot of rancor expressed in the Talmud but that is because it was written by the rabbis who were under intense persecution while it was being written down. In any case, the Talmud contains a lot of weirdness--it was obviously NOT inspired and there are few (if any) rabbis who would think it was. 4) Most Jews you might speak to today believe that Jesus was a "good man" and possibly even a prophet. Most of them don't even believe in a hell as we think of it. And most of them do not have much of a clue as to what the Talmud says about anything. They don't even know what the Tanakh teaches--Christians probably know more about that than the average Jew! Religious, Orthodox Jews (a minority among Jews) would be the only Jews who pay much attention to the Talmud and most of them pay much more attention to Torah and the Tanakh. Smearing the Jews will not help you.
“And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?” (Romans 11:23–24)