Rapture Top Dogs Admit no Proof Exists.

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There will be a restoration of God's Israel when Jesus returns. Notice I said God's Israel, not the Jew's view of Israel.

God's True Israel:

Rom 9:6-8
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

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What Apostle Paul was actually talking about there was God's Promise by Faith first given to Abraham. That was 430 years before the law when God gave Abraham the Promise. It is not of works, nor of birth. It is by God's grace by Faith on The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

The Promise would continue to Isaac, and then to his seed Jacob who would be given the new name 'Israel' to represent The Gospel Promise by Faith! And then the Promise of The Gospel would go to Jacob's seed Joseph, and then to Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh where Ephraim would become "a multitude of nations" in The Gospel, and then The Gospel would go out to ALL nations in the world to bring all believers into Christ's Kingdom.


Thus trying to tie The Gospel Promise solely to one people and one small place on earth is not what God's Word is about.

Ok. I will listen to that line of thinking, but only if you can provide ample documentary support for that from the OT. The Biblical standard laid out in scripture (Torah) is that for any matter to be established, it must have the confirmation of two or more witnesses. The Bereans in Acts 17 showed us how that is applied. They searched the scripture (OT was all they had) to see if what Paul taught them was true. Paul makes up a good portion of the NT. So the standard is that any doctrinal matter must have solid evidentiary support in both OT and NT that compliments each other, or it fails to meet that standard and is to be ignored.

You have to prove from the OT that in no way was physical, literal Jacob (Israel) in view regarding the restoration at the second coming.
 
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They are embracing their messiah,however it's the wrong one.

Initially that would be true to some extent. But there are the 144,000 that are not so buffaloed for starters. And Hosea 5 and 6 is quite clear, and Yeshua confirms Hosea in Mattew 23 (meeting the two witness requirement of the Torah) that He will not return until the corporate identity of Jacob (Israel) acknowledges their rejection of Him, turns to Him, and petitions for His return to rescue them.

Doesn't matter about any other condition regarding what we think will trigger His literal, physical return to the earth to establish His rule. It will not happen until the Hebrew people, specifically the leadership, acknowledge their rejection and turn to Him and petition Him as per Psalms 118 to rescue and rule over them. It is the primary purpose of the Tribulation Period, Day of Trouble (Jeremiah), etc.

I believe it is because of this that Satan has done just about everything he can to eliminate the Hebrew people. Killing them off, assimilating the line, whatever. Satan is more than capable regarding the scripture. He knows the real deal. But I am also convinced that YHVH cannot be made out to be a fool. He knows who is physical, literal Hebrew (and who isn't) and has reserved them for the upcoming calamities. Just like He reserved the 7000 during the time of Elijah.
 
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Initially that would be true to some extent. But there are the 144,000 that are not so buffaloed for starters. And Hosea 5 and 6 is quite clear, and Yeshua confirms Hosea in Mattew 23 (meeting the two witness requirement of the Torah) that He will not return until the corporate identity of Jacob (Israel) acknowledges their rejection of Him, turns to Him, and petitions for His return to rescue them.

Doesn't matter about any other condition regarding what we think will trigger His literal, physical return to the earth to establish His rule. It will not happen until the Hebrew people, specifically the leadership, acknowledge their rejection and turn to Him and petition Him as per Psalms 118 to rescue and rule over them. It is the primary purpose of the Tribulation Period, Day of Trouble (Jeremiah), etc.

I believe it is because of this that Satan has done just about everything he can to eliminate the Hebrew people. Killing them off, assimilating the line, whatever. Satan is more than capable regarding the scripture. He knows the real deal. But I am also convinced that YHVH cannot be made out to be a fool. He knows who is physical, literal Hebrew (and who isn't) and has reserved them for the upcoming calamities. Just like He reserved the 7000 during the time of Elijah.

My God has and always will have a remnant,that won't bow a knee.

And yes satan as started in the Garden, has tried to eliminate the Hebrew people,ie,those whom Christ would be born through,on such a DEEPER meaning I could go there,I mean I could REALLY go there,but I won't!!!

Do you understand the difference between Judiasm and Christianity?
 

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You need to study more. Those gathered at the second coming is Israel.

Hate to keep bringing this up,but I must,WHO is Israel??????

Even if one could trace their bloodline all the way back to Abraham himself,if you don't believe in Christ ,right here right now it doesn't matter!!

It's NO Israel perse from what you saying,Christians are Israel and if you don't see that you gonna stay blinded..

Everybody keep saying ISRAEL ISRAEL,again if you dont believe in Christ,it dosn't matter WHO you are

He, my God divorced them,only way back is through Christ!!!!PERIOD!!!!!
 
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How many Israelites roamed the wilderness,and didn't make it to the promise land???"?

Now ask youself,why they didn't,it's in there,do study it......
 

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My God has and always will have a remnant,that won't bow a knee.

And yes satan as started in the Garden, has tried to eliminate the Hebrew people,ie,those whom Christ would be born through,on such a DEEPER meaning I could go there,I mean I could REALLY go there,but I won't!!!

Do you understand the difference between Judiasm and Christianity?

What is the purpose of the question? I see no relevance to the discussion or anything I posted.
 
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Problem with some of those quotes also is that when they say there is no Biblical proof of a post-tribulational rapture, they are telling a lie:

Matt 24:29-31
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

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In the above example, Christ's elect are gathered "from one end of heaven to the other". That is about the "asleep" saints Apostle Paul said in 1 Thessalonians 4 that Jesus will bring with Him when He comes.


Mark 13:24-27
24 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27 And then shall he send His angels, and shall gather together His elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

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In this Mark 13 example, Christ's elect are gathered "from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven". That's His Church that is still alive on earth at His coming. That is what some call the 'rapture', but what Apostle Paul in 1 Thess.4 called "caught up".


So there it is, PROOF FROM OUR LORD JESUS' OWN MOUTH that His coming to gather the Church is AFTER the tribulation.

Those on the pre-trib fly away rapture doctrine REJECT these Scripture proofs our Lord Jesus gave, and instead tell the lie that those Scriptures are for Jews! and not for Christ's Church! The above Scripture alignment with what Apostle Paul taught in 1 Thessalonians 4 is definite proof that the pre-trib rapture doctors are lying.

They also reject this proof that shows our Lord Jesus only returns ONE TIME, NOT TWO. When Jesus returns, and gathers His Church, that is... His second coming. The pre-trib liars try to divide that by inserting another coming prior to the tribulation.

So those of you on men's pre-trib rapture lies, go ahead, engulf yourself in that spiritual drunkenness if you want. It's your choice. But you will NEVER be able to reverse the timing Jesus showed in those above Scriptures for when He comes to gather His Church. You can reject those Scriptures all you want, but you can't make them go away!
The problem is there is no looming great tribulation. It happened in 70 AD and was Jewish. Christians always have tribulation, but when Jesus returns, it will be as in Noah's day. Marrying, giving in marriage, much like today. Jesus can return and the world end today.
 
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Except for one teensie bit of a problem. My initial post on this thread quoted your initial post that started it. You never quoted Yeshua in that post. It was just a rant.

And in every subsequent post you have made to me, you haven't quoted Yeshua either.

You have gotten in so deep you can't keep track of what you have said. Might want to back up and take a breath before shooting off again.
You, not me, are taking my post off topic.
 
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Firstly , What scripture you provide?? Let's see it.
Secondly, your opinion of what constitutes "truth" is only your opinion for eg. that denies CHRIST will return physically and set up a physical millennial Kingdom on earth, for eg of one of your "opinions".
Thirdly , do us all a favor and get a dictionary Dave. Just because You disagree with a person doesn't mean they are lying. "Lying" is to speak an untruth deliberately to deceive or to make a deliberate false statement. It is not a disagreement nor is it when someone is mistaken either.
Here's some scripture from Revelation that speaks of Christ's physical millennial kingdom.
Rev 20:1-15
Satan bound
"1Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding the key of the abyss and a great chain in his hand. 2 And he laid hold of the dragon, the serpent of old, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3 and he threw him into the abyss, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he would not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were completed; after these things he must be released for a short time.

4Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.

Satan Freed, Doomed

7When the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison, 8and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the number of them is like the sand of the seashore. 9And they came up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them. 10And the devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Judgment at the Throne of God

11Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them. 12And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the bookof life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
Jesus said his kingdom is spiritual. Therefore, you are a false prophet along with all Dispensationalists who force a physical kingdom onto Revelation, adding to the book.
 
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There is a dynamic to the messianic kingdom that I think many fail to notice. There will still be sin. there will still be death. And there will still be the nations (exclusive of Israel) that will be required to come to Jerusalem to honor festivals laid out in Torah. And those that don't, will have certain punishments meted out.

The kingdom parables give us a snapshot. For instance, the parable of the mustard tree. It grows into a large tree that even birds are nesting. For one, a mustard plant is not a tree. It barely reaches a height of 3 feet. So there is a dynamic to the kingdom that is not normal. And birds are nesting in that tree. From the previous parable of the sower, we know the birds represent the evil ones. Evil will still be present and nesting in the kingdom. Satan may be locked up, but there is nothing in scripture that says his cronies are locked up.

The parable of the woman and the leaven is another. Leaven in scripture is almost always associated with corruption and sin. Yeshua told His disciples to avoid the leaven of the Pharisees. In this parable, a woman is hiding leaven in 3 measures of meal. 3 Measures of meal is the fellowship offering at the Temple. To hide leaven in that was a capital crime during the temple era. The leaven permeates the entire 3 measures of meal. Sin will grow in the kingdom and eventually permeate the entire kingdom.

When Satan is released at the end of the 1000 years, he is able to foment rather quickly a worldwide rebellion against the Lord. Psalms 2 talks about this.

And the scripture is very clear that Yeshua will be ruling with a rod of iron which suggests that He is going to have to lay down the heavy hand on those that get out of line.

Some, I feel, think that the Messianic Kingdom is heaven on earth. Sure, the earth will be restored to what it should have been from the Garden of Eden, but the sinful heart of man remains. This means there will be mortal Hebrews and Gentiles that go into the kingdom at the end of the tribulation period. And many of them, or more likely their offspring later, will not place their trust in Messiah even though He will be ruling over them. Even when face to face with the Lord, in a virtually perfect environment, mankind can't help but rebel.

Yep--that's the way I see it. The Messianic (Millennial) Kingdom will be the final demonstration that mankind apart from God is like a pack of rats--they soil their own nest. When you think about it, the Messianic Kingdom will take away all possible blame that mankind has always tried to shift to God. Very long life will return, so the fear of death is gone, along with the sin it provokes. The Creation will be renewed by God, so no longer will mankind have to struggle for a living (the struggle to live provokes the sin of hoarding and selfishness). Satan will be bound, so he won't be around to tempt mankind into sin. And yet there is an infection in the heart of mankind--a prideful desire to be his own god. It is at the center of mankind's rebellion--just as it is at the center of Satan's.
 
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Yep--that's the way I see it. The Messianic (Millennial) Kingdom will be the final demonstration that mankind apart from God is like a pack of rats--they soil their own nest. When you think about it, the Messianic Kingdom will take away all possible blame that mankind has always tried to shift to God. Very long life will return, so the fear of death is gone, along with the sin it provokes. The Creation will be renewed by God, so no longer will mankind have to struggle for a living (the struggle to live provokes the sin of hoarding and selfishness). Satan will be bound, so he won't be around to tempt mankind into sin. And yet there is an infection in the heart of mankind--a prideful desire to be his own god. It is at the center of mankind's rebellion--just as it is at the center of Satan's.
Fwiw I quit working for food or "a living" over 20 years ago...haven't had to eat any locusts yet!
 
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Hate to keep bringing this up,but I must,WHO is Israel??????

Even if one could trace their bloodline all the way back to Abraham himself,if you don't believe in Christ ,right here right now it doesn't matter!!

It's NO Israel perse from what you saying,Christians are Israel and if you don't see that you gonna stay blinded..

Everybody keep saying ISRAEL ISRAEL,again if you dont believe in Christ,it dosn't matter WHO you are

He, my God divorced them,only way back is through Christ!!!!PERIOD!!!!!

God knows who Israel is.

You are defending Replacement Theology.
 
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Therefore, you are a false prophet along with all Dispensationalists who force a physical kingdom onto Revelation, adding to the book.
Hilarious! the guy who pushes Replacement Theology calls me a false prophet for defending the Rapture & supporting the views of dispensational premillenialism, well actually come to think of it, your calling me a "false prophet" fits with the other delusional claims you've made.
:rolleyes: Along with Replacement Theology it is the Preterist views you promote.
Preterists must dishonestly use hermeneutical gymnastics and play "peak a boo" & "hide and seek" with the Biblical truth in order to completely avoid reality & ignore prophetic scriptures.
 
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What is the preterist view of the end times?
What is the preterist view of the end times?
Question: "What is the preterist view of the end times?"

Answer: According to Preterism, all prophecy in the Bible is really history. The preterist interpretation of Scripture regards the book of Revelation as a symbolic picture of first-century conflicts, not a description of what will occur in the end times. The term preterism comes from the Latin praeter, meaning “past.” Thus, preterism is the view that the biblical prophecies concerning the “end times” have already been fulfilled—in the past. Preterism is directly opposed to futurism, which sees the end-times prophecies as having a still-future fulfillment.

Preterism is divided into two types: full (or consistent) preterism and partial preterism. This article will confine the discussion to full preterism (or hyper-preterism, as some call it).

Preterism denies the future prophetic quality of the book of Revelation. The preterist movement essentially teaches that all the end-times prophecies of the New Testament were fulfilled in AD 70 when the Romans attacked and destroyed Jerusalem. Preterism teaches that every event normally associated with the end times—Christ’s second coming, the tribulation, the resurrection of the dead, the final judgment—has already happened. (In the case of the final judgment, it still in the process of being fulfilled.) Jesus’ return to earth was a “spiritual” return, not a physical one.

Preterism teaches that the Law was fulfilled in AD 70 and God’s covenant with Israel was ended. The “new heavens and new earth” spoken of in Revelation 21:1 is, to the preterist, a description of the world under the New Covenant. Just as a Christian is made a “new creation” (2 Corinthians 5:17), so the world under the New Covenant is a “new earth.” This aspect of preterism can easily lead to a belief in replacement theology.

Preterists usually point to a passage in Jesus’ Olivet Discourse to bolster their argument. After Jesus describes some of the end-times happenings, He says, “Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened” (Matthew 24:34). The preterist takes this to mean that everything Jesus speaks of in Matthew 24 had to have occurred within one generation of His speaking—the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70 was therefore “Judgment Day.”

The problems with preterism are many. For one thing, God’s covenant with Israel is everlasting (Jeremiah 31:33–36), and there will be a future restoration of Israel (Isaiah 11:12).

The apostle Paul warned against those who, like Hymenaeus and Philetus, teach falsely “that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some” (2 Timothy 2:17–18). And Jesus’ mention of “this generation” should be taken to mean the generation that is alive to see the beginning of the events described in Matthew 24.

Eschatology is a complex subject, and the Bible’s use of apocalyptic imagery to relate many prophecies has led to a variety of interpretations of end-time events. There is room for some disagreement within Christianity regarding these things. However, full preterism has some serious flaws in that it denies the physical reality of Christ’s second coming and downplays the dreadful nature of the tribulation by restricting that event to the fall of Jerusalem."

:Recommended Resource: Understanding End Times Prophecy by Paul Benware"
 

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What is historic premillennialism?
Here's info so people can understand what are the differences from gotquestions.org which I have found to be pretty reliable unbiased source for Biblical info.
Question: "What is historic premillennialism?"

Answer:
Historic premillennialism and dispensational premillennialism are two different systems of eschatology. Here are a few examples of the differences between the two:

• Historic premillennialism teaches that the church was in the fore-vision of Old Testament prophecy, while dispensationalism teaches that the church is hardly, if at all, mentioned by the Old Testament prophets.

• Historic premillennialism teaches that the present age of grace was predicted in the Old Testament. Dispensationalism holds that the present age was unforeseen in the Old Testament and thus is a “great parenthesis” in history introduced because the Jews rejected the kingdom.

• Historic premillennialism teaches a millennium after the second advent of Christ but is not much concerned with classifying other epochs of history. Usually, dispensationalism teaches seven divisions of time. The present age is the sixth such dispensation; the last one will be the millennial age after the second coming.

• Historic premillennialism is posttribulational; dispensational premillennialism usually embraces the pretribulational view.

The premillennial view of the end times is thus advanced in two different ways: historic premillennialism and dispensational premillennialism. The Bible contains many prophecies about the future, with the New Testament speaking extensively about the return of Jesus to earth. Matthew 24, much of the book of Revelation, and 1 Thessalonians 4:16–18 are the more salient references to the second coming.

Historic premillennialism was held by a large majority of Christians during the first three centuries of the Christian era. Many of the church fathers such as Ireneaus, Papias, Justin Martyr, Tertullian, Hippolytus, and others taught that there would be a visible kingdom of God upon the earth after the return of Christ. Historic premillennialism taught that the Antichrist would appear on earth and the seven-year tribulation would begin. Next would be the rapture, and then Jesus and His church would return to earth to rule for a thousand years. The faithful spend eternity in the New Jerusalem.

When Christianity became the official religion of Rome in the fourth century, many things began to change, including acceptance of historic premillennialism. Amillennialism soon became the prevailing doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church.

One of the most influential historic premillennialists was George Eldon Ladd, an evangelical New Testament scholar and professor of New Testament exegesis and theology at Fuller Theological Seminary. It was through Ladd’s work that historic premillennialism gained scholarly respect and popularity among evangelical and Reformed theologians of the twentieth century. Other well-known historic premillennialists include Walter Martin; John Warwick Montgomery; J. Barton Payne; Henry Alford, a noted Greek scholar; and Theodor Zahn, a German New Testament scholar.

Historic premillennialism is one system of eschatology that has support in the Protestant community. Generally, all of the premillennialist beliefs teach that the tribulation is followed by 1,000 years of peace when all live under the authority of Christ. Afterwards, in a brief, final battle, Satan is permanently conquered. The placement of the rapture in relation to the other events is one of the main differences between historic premillennialism and premillennial dispensationalism."

"Recommended Resource: A Case for Historic Premillennialism by Blomberg & Chung"
 
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What is dispensational premillennialism / premillennial dispensationalism?
Question: "What is "dispensational premillennialism / premillennial dispensationalism?"


Answer:
Premillennialism as a system is primarily based on a literal method of biblical interpretation. The main premise of premillennialism is that Jesus will literally return to the earth before (pre) the millennium begins and that He himself will inaugurate and rule over it. Premillennialists can be divided into two groups with respect to their central approach to the prophetic Scriptures, historic premillennialists and dispensational premillennialists. The basic difference between the two is the emphasis that each gives to the nation of Israel during the millennium, the period of a thousand years during which Christ will reign on earth (see Revelation 20:1-7).

Historic premillennialists believe that scriptural prophecy, especially the passages in Daniel and Revelation, give the entire history of the Church in symbolic form. Thus, they look into the Church’s past and present to find prophetic fulfillment and to see where they are in God’s prophetic timetable. Most historic premillennialists hold that the nation of Israel will undergo a national salvation immediately before the millennium is established, but there will be no national restoration of Israel. Thus, the nation of Israel will not have a special role or function that is distinct from the Church.

In contrast to historic premillennialism, dispensational premillennialism has gained popularity among modern evangelicals. Dispensational premillennialists hold that the second coming of Christ, and subsequent establishment of the millennial kingdom, is to be preceded by a seven-year-long period known as the “Tribulation,” the earthly activity of the Antichrist as well as the outpouring of God’s wrath on mankind. Dispensational premillennialists hold that the nation of Israel will be saved and restored to a place of preeminence in the millennium. Thus, Israel will have a special function of service in the millennium that is different from that of the Church.

Another difference is that most dispensational premillennialists hold that the millennium is for a literal 1000 years, while some historic premillennialists assert that the 1000 years is figurative for a long period of time. Basically, the fundamental difference between historic premillennialism and dispensational premillennialism consists in the latter’s insistence on maintaining a distinction between the nation of Israel and the Church. According to dispensationalists, the millennium will be a period of history in which God reverts back to fulfilling His Old Testament promises made to ethnic Israel, after this modern “Church Age” in which we live today is concluded. As such, the millennium will be a state of Jewish dominion over all the world, along with a newly restored Jewish temple and priesthood.

The Christians who reign with Christ will all have been given eternal, glorified bodies, and will reign spiritually, while the Jews will own the world physically, and will live, marry, and die (although evincing incredible longevity), just as people have throughout the history of the world. It is only after this thousand-year period, in which God fulfills His promises to ethnic Israel, that Christ will put down a final rebellion and usher in the eternal state with its New Heaven and New Earth (Revelation 21-22).

Historic premillennialism, conversely, requires none of this strict dichotomy between God’s spiritual people, the Church, and His physical people, ethnic Israel; it merely looks ahead to a time when Christ will reign visibly on the earth, before He brings in the eternal state."

"Recommended Resource: Dispensationalism by Charles Ryrie"
 

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What is dispensational premillennialism / premillennial dispensationalism?
Question: "What is "dispensational premillennialism / premillennial dispensationalism?"


Answer:
Premillennialism as a system is primarily based on a literal method of biblical interpretation. The main premise of premillennialism is that Jesus will literally return to the earth before (pre) the millennium begins and that He himself will inaugurate and rule over it. Premillennialists can be divided into two groups with respect to their central approach to the prophetic Scriptures, historic premillennialists and dispensational premillennialists. The basic difference between the two is the emphasis that each gives to the nation of Israel during the millennium, the period of a thousand years during which Christ will reign on earth (see Revelation 20:1-7).

Historic premillennialists believe that scriptural prophecy, especially the passages in Daniel and Revelation, give the entire history of the Church in symbolic form. Thus, they look into the Church’s past and present to find prophetic fulfillment and to see where they are in God’s prophetic timetable. Most historic premillennialists hold that the nation of Israel will undergo a national salvation immediately before the millennium is established, but there will be no national restoration of Israel. Thus, the nation of Israel will not have a special role or function that is distinct from the Church.

In contrast to historic premillennialism, dispensational premillennialism has gained popularity among modern evangelicals. Dispensational premillennialists hold that the second coming of Christ, and subsequent establishment of the millennial kingdom, is to be preceded by a seven-year-long period known as the “Tribulation,” the earthly activity of the Antichrist as well as the outpouring of God’s wrath on mankind. Dispensational premillennialists hold that the nation of Israel will be saved and restored to a place of preeminence in the millennium. Thus, Israel will have a special function of service in the millennium that is different from that of the Church.

Another difference is that most dispensational premillennialists hold that the millennium is for a literal 1000 years, while some historic premillennialists assert that the 1000 years is figurative for a long period of time. Basically, the fundamental difference between historic premillennialism and dispensational premillennialism consists in the latter’s insistence on maintaining a distinction between the nation of Israel and the Church. According to dispensationalists, the millennium will be a period of history in which God reverts back to fulfilling His Old Testament promises made to ethnic Israel, after this modern “Church Age” in which we live today is concluded. As such, the millennium will be a state of Jewish dominion over all the world, along with a newly restored Jewish temple and priesthood.

The Christians who reign with Christ will all have been given eternal, glorified bodies, and will reign spiritually, while the Jews will own the world physically, and will live, marry, and die (although evincing incredible longevity), just as people have throughout the history of the world. It is only after this thousand-year period, in which God fulfills His promises to ethnic Israel, that Christ will put down a final rebellion and usher in the eternal state with its New Heaven and New Earth (Revelation 21-22).

Historic premillennialism, conversely, requires none of this strict dichotomy between God’s spiritual people, the Church, and His physical people, ethnic Israel; it merely looks ahead to a time when Christ will reign visibly on the earth, before He brings in the eternal state."

"Recommended Resource: Dispensationalism by Charles Ryrie"
Part of the key to understanding is knowing who Scripture passages are talking about: Jews, Gentiles or the church of God (1 Corinthians 10.31).
 
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