There is no invitation made to the self-righteous. The gospel is preached (announced) telling those who believe of their good fortune.
Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.
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At least you admit that those who believe in Calvinism are self-righteous.
However, the invitation is given to all; as indicated by the word whosoever.
SovereignGrace
Certified Flunky
You are the epitome of Romans 9:20. If God does not measure up to your self-righteous standards, if He does not 'try' to save everybody, agree with you on EVERYTHING, then He is not worthy of your praise and worship.
God has indeed left(justly) many in fallen state.
Only believers (saved according to Jesus) will respond. How can you not be self-righteous when you think your response saves you. And the Calvinist knows he cannot respond unless first saved and given a new heart?
What makes you think you have the good fortune of being one of the elect, when you hear the doctrines of Calvinism? Don't you see that in those doctrines there is the possibility that God did not choose you? Because there are those who will not enter in; it is therefore the luck of the draw.
I was saved from out of the blue. And heard the spiritual facts of life when studying Calvinism. You still think they found you under a cabbage leaf.
How is it any virtue on my part to reach up when Jesus reaches down, because I was in a pit and desired to be rescued? And how did I save myself in that? I could never have gotten out of the pit on my own; I needed the Lord to rescue me.
If a life preserver is thrown to someone, and they don't take hold of it, they will drown.
You think you saved yourself through self-righteousness. But nobody is saved in this way. It is by grace (unmerited favor) alone.
You cannot help but respond if it is your new nature to respond. Can a cat not respond to the things cats respond to?
The fruit of the Spirit breaking forth in me at a time religion and Jesus were the least of my interests.
However, I am making a point, that the unbeliever hearing the doctrines of Calvinism, if he thinks he is saved, will not think that he has any need to respond.
I was also saved out of the blue. However, I was not saved apart from a choice to begin reading God's word and doing what it says.
Can a cat cease to act like a cat? It is the new nature that causes us to respond naturally.
Preacher4Truth
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It's sad, really, because these guys don't believe the milk of the word, election, and they aren't of those mentioned in Romans 8:31-39, so, they cannot claim it as theirs.
They cannot comprehend and claim 1 Thessalonians 1:4-5 either which is so plain and clear. They cannot do what 2 Peter 1 states, because it is for those who are certain of their call and election, and are exhorted to prove this until themselves.
Bottom line is they don't really trust or believe in God electing and calling, they believe in themselves instead and think they elected and called themselves. They're way more believing in self, not God.
They cannot comprehend and claim 1 Thessalonians 1:4-5 either which is so plain and clear. They cannot do what 2 Peter 1 states, because it is for those who are certain of their call and election, and are exhorted to prove this until themselves.
Bottom line is they don't really trust or believe in God electing and calling, they believe in themselves instead and think they elected and called themselves. They're way more believing in self, not God.
If you trust in your choice, you do not trust in Jesus.
And if He doesn't want to do that, we're out of luck. Because of course there are those whom He doesn't save.
He arbitrarily chose to save some sinners and did not choose to save the rest. But only those whom he chose want to be saved. The rest do not and think the gospel is foolishness.
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