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Spam. Take the time to say it yourself or don't bother. No one has to time or inclination to watch this stuff.
Yep. Says the Amillennialist who takes the time to do her own research and type up her own biblical passages in support of her own opinions when she presents them. Perhaps I am wrong...who knows. But at least I'm not lazy.Says the amillennialist.
Yep. Says the Amillennialist who takes the time to do her own research and type up her own biblical passages in support of her own opinions when she presents them. Perhaps I am wrong...who knows. But at least I'm not lazy.
People come to these forums to engage in conversation and debate with others over ideas. If they just want to watch preachers soapbox what they believe, they are quite capable of finding Youtube on their own.
I didn't insist that I HAD to be right, if you'll read again. I know I'm not perfect, and thus my interpretation of scripture may not be. But my point was not that my opinion was superior to others...it was that I take the time to think through an argument or position myself, and then present it, myself, with biblical verses I think support it...myself. I don't cut and paste someone elses work because I can't be bothered doing the work myself. That's not what this forum is for, it's for converation and debate over our thoughts on various issues...give and take. It's not for repeated regurgitation of others preaching on the same topic. That is soapbox land. And if that's what you want, start a blog.You typing verses does not make them superior to someone else typing them or studying them in a video. That is a bogus argument.
Except....didn't you just say that simply presenting verses and opinions don't make said opinions valid? Are you now saying that being 'older' automatically makes a person correct? We know that isn't right. And we know that regardless of your age and 'experience studying scripture' it has no apparent weight on your presentation of scripture here...because you rarely do it. I am always happy to consider any scripture given and delve into an exegesis of the passage, but that's mighty difficult when none is given on the subject at hand.I'm pretty sure I have Years more study Than you do. I began with Bible, reference material, etc on a desk studying. Don't try to pull that argument with me.
Fair enough, it does take time to watch videos and make sure you agree with what they say, I'll give you that. But my objection to your glut of posting them here still stands. Not many others (unless they share your passion on that particular topic) will take the time to watch them. One, maybe, five? Doubt it. And, like I said, if you feel they make good, weighty arguments on certain issues, why not jot them down, attach the requist scriptures and actually make a post that people can interact with?It isn't lazy, it is using resources that takes time to find and verify. Another bogus argument.
Conversation...I suppose. About a single point IN one of those videos? Nope.Everything I present is up for debate. And by the way we are engaging in conversation right now.
People are also capable of doing deep Bible study, but they don't. And even when they do it requires research outside the Bible as well to understand.
Your arguments are bogus.
I didn't insist that I HAD to be right, if you'll read again. I know I'm not perfect, and thus my interpretation of scripture may not be. But my point was not that my opinion was superior to others...it was that I take the time to think through an argument or position myself, and then present it, myself, with biblical verses I think support it...myself. I don't cut and paste someone elses work because I can't be bothered doing the work myself. That's not what this forum is for, it's for converation and debate over our thoughts on various issues...give and take. It's not for repeated regurgitation of others preaching on the same topic. That is soapbox land. And if that's what you want, start a blog.
Except....didn't you just say that simply presenting verses and opinions don't make said opinions valid? Are you now saying that being 'older' automatically makes a person correct? We know that isn't right. And we know that regardless of your age and 'experience studying scripture' it has no apparent weight on your presentation of scripture here...because you rarely do it. I am always happy to consider any scripture given and delve into an exegesis of the passage, but that's mighty difficult when none is given on the subject at hand.
Fair enough, it does take time to watch videos and make sure you agree with what they say, I'll give you that. But my objection to your glut of posting them here still stands. Not many others (unless they share your passion on that particular topic) will take the time to watch them. One, maybe, five? Doubt it. And, like I said, if you feel they make good, weighty arguments on certain issues, why not jot them down, attach the requist scriptures and actually make a post that people can interact with?
Conversation...I suppose. About a single point IN one of those videos? Nope.
Of course people are capable of doing deep bible study...and they DO. Just because they often come to decided outcomes that do not match your doctrine does not mean they are not doing it, or doing it faithfully.
You claim wisdom and a studiousness beyond my own, but in that very claim, you give up those labels! You don't know me, or my age, or my level of study or understanding! You don't know my walk with God...nothing! You see that I am Amillennial and dismiss me and what I say completely. That really doesn't bother me at all, but it shows a level of understanding; in scripture and in Christ's teaching, that says perhaps you don't know as much as you think.
The pre trib 'rapture to heaven' is a fable that Paul warned us that many would fall for. Jesus said that we could be deceived and He was surely right!I have found that differences in beliefs come from people finding what they want to find and not what is revealed in the Bible. They invent their own truths.
How can Bible doctrine be a fable? Or did you fail to read the passages about this important truth?The pre trib 'rapture to heaven' is a fable that Paul warned us that many would fall for.
I could not have said that better.I have found that differences in beliefs come from people finding what they want to find and not what is revealed in the Bible. They invent their own truths.
I can fairly claim to know the Bible well, having written over 800 articles, mainly on Bible prophecy.How can Bible doctrine be a fable? Or did you fail to read the passages about this important truth?
The pre trib 'rapture to heaven' is a fable ...
Watch the videos I posted. They put together all the information about me having to type type type.I could not have said that better.
The real problem comes when healthy dialogue cannot come despite the differences. I don't mind the fact that you think I'm wrong...clearly I think you are mistaken as well. I enjoy the challenge of others trying to poke holes in my theology and vise versa, and consider it an "iron sharpening iron" thing. It has certainly helped me, over the months, focus my beliefs and understanding in regards to the topic and how Christ, Paul and John speak of it.
The thing I simply cannot understand with you is this: you refuse to enter the debate with a true intent to bring this "knowlege and study" you claim you have, after all your years of hitting the books. You shoot off dismissive and often abrassive comments based upon an often faulty understanding of what I believe. You rarely respond directly to the scriptures I present, only saying 'that's not true'.
If you truly are passionate about Dispensationalim, and know as much as you say you do, why on earth do you not engage like you are trying to win, woo or sway? Why do you think insults and dismissals will be a better rebuttal than God's word on the subject?
Haven't got the slightest bit of interest in watching even a minute of those videos. So...you might be saving yourself typing time, but you're gaining yourself nothing else.Watch the videos I posted. They put together all the information about me having to type type type.
Haven't got the slightest bit of interest in watching even a minute of those videos. So...you might be saving yourself typing time, but you're gaining yourself nothing else.
Wouldn't know...you never throw any at me.Understood. You can't handle the challenge or information.
Wouldn't know...you never throw any at me.