Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

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No because the Father inhabits eternity; and the nature of eternity is that if someone dwells in it, they dwell in it eternally. Therefore in descending to become the Son, the Father wouldn't cease to exist in eternity.
But he changes into the Son = split personality = you are deceived because God cannot change according to his own word.
 

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The Son always existed in the love of the Father. Jesus the man was the triune God who spoke in the person of the Son.
Because after the Father descended and became a Man, He ascended once again to exist outside of time.

However, the Son was begotten in the incarnation, Luke 1:35.
 

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God is one spiritual substance with three distinct persons, each of the one spiritual substance.
You can tout it as a doctrine all day long but you will never understand it until you see it through the venue that I am presenting to you.
 
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Because after the Father descended and became a Man, He ascended once again to exist outside of time.

However, the Son was begotten in the incarnation, Luke 1:35.
No, the entire triune Godhead took on perfect human flesh. And spoke to us in the second person of the trinity as the eternal Son.
 

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No, the entire triune Godhead took on perfect human flesh. And spoke to us in the second person of the trinity as the eternal Son.
You are mistaken, not knowing the scriptures well enough to understand the reality of this matter.
 

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Clearly, the begetting referred to in Acts 13.33 is in the context of the Resurrection.
Jesus was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; declared to be the Son of God with power in the resurrection (Romans 1:3-4).

But clearly, in Luke 1:35, declared to be the Son of God in His conception.
 

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You are missing out on God's revelation of himself in the New Covenant. Hanging out with the pharisees instead.
That doesn't phase me.

2Ti 1:12, For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
 

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No, he is one human body and soul with God as his person. Speaking through the second person of the trinity as the eternal Son.
There is no point in arguing with you because you have your point of view and will very likely not depart from it.

I leave you with this: the key to understanding the Trinity will be, for you, to take Isaiah 9:6 at face value; until you take that step of faith, you will only have dogma to recite.