Is belief in the Trinity necessary for salvation?
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If you have the true Christ, you would agree with the Church throughout history and not be labeled a heretic by them and the AOG who threw you out of their Church in the 1900s.
Not necessarily.
Did Paul the apostle have the true Christ?
Yet, he was labeled as a heretic by people who claimed to have faith in the Lord God (Acts 24:14 (kjv)).
People in church history who have labeled similar doctrine to what I believe as heresy were not necessarily true Christians. They were in charge of what was at that time the Catholic Church; and this speaks volumes about whether they were truly born again or not.
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But you do not worship the same Christ as Paul, or the Church which is his body.
I do indeed worship the Christ that is testified to in the Holy Bible; and therefore the Christ which is worshiped by His true church. Definitely the same Christ as who Paul the apostle worshiped.
Some people dont want to know the truth because they are so brainwashed by their tradition.
New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1977 Edition, Vol. 13, p. 1021 -- The first use of the Latin word "trinitas" (trinity) with reference to God, is found in Tertulian's writings (about 213 A.D.) He was the first to use the term "persons" (plural) in a Trinitarian context.
Encyclopedia Americana, 1957 Edition, Vol. 27, p. 69 -- The word "Trinity" is not in Scripture. The term "persons" (plural) is not applied in Scripture to the Trinity.
World Book Encyclopedia, 1984 Edition, Vol. T, p. 363 -- Belief in Father, Son and Holy Ghost was first defined by the earliest general council of churches. This was the First Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D.
New International Encyclopedia, Vol. 22 p. 476 -- The Catholic faith is this; We worship one God in Trinity, but there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son and another of the Holy Ghost. The Glory equal -- the Majesty co-eternal. The doctrine is not found in its fully developed form in the Scriptures. Modern theology does not seek to find it in the Old Testament. At the time of the Reformation the Protestant Church took over the doctrine of the Trinity without serious examination.
Life Magazine, October 30, 1950, Vol. 29, No. 18, p. 51 -- The Catholics made this statement concerning their doctrine of the Trinity, to defend the dogma of the assumption of Mary, in an article written by Graham Greene: "Our opponents sometimes claim that no belief should be held dogmatically which is not explicitly stated in Scripture ... But the PROTESTANT CHURCHES have themselves accepted such dogmas as THE TRINITY, for which there is NO SUCH PRECISE AUTHORITY In the Gospels."
Jesus is not God.
John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Ephesians 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
Jesus didn't know the divine mystery. If Jesus had been God, John 4:22 would have been a lie, and God can not lie.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
The trinity doctrine contradicts those verses. That is why churches that teach the trinity discourage studying the bible, declaring that church tradition is of higher authority than the word of God.
John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
You can check for yourself: everything God does, He does by speaking it. So verse 1 has no confusion until trinity believers inject it there.
What is a word? We have the spoken word, but that is not God. We have the written word, but that is not God. We have the word made flesh, so by what authority do you take that word out of context and declare that is God when the other two are not?
Verse 3 contains a pronoun, him. A pronoun refers to the last preceding qualified noun, and that is God. The bible uses many names for God, but it is never so sloppy to say one name when it means another. Adonai is my shepherd, not YHVH. YHVH gave the law, not elohim. Elohim is the creator, not Jesus.
Genesis 3:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
"It", get it? The savior didn't even have a name until after "it" was born.
New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1977 Edition, Vol. 13, p. 1021 -- The first use of the Latin word "trinitas" (trinity) with reference to God, is found in Tertulian's writings (about 213 A.D.) He was the first to use the term "persons" (plural) in a Trinitarian context.
Encyclopedia Americana, 1957 Edition, Vol. 27, p. 69 -- The word "Trinity" is not in Scripture. The term "persons" (plural) is not applied in Scripture to the Trinity.
World Book Encyclopedia, 1984 Edition, Vol. T, p. 363 -- Belief in Father, Son and Holy Ghost was first defined by the earliest general council of churches. This was the First Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D.
New International Encyclopedia, Vol. 22 p. 476 -- The Catholic faith is this; We worship one God in Trinity, but there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son and another of the Holy Ghost. The Glory equal -- the Majesty co-eternal. The doctrine is not found in its fully developed form in the Scriptures. Modern theology does not seek to find it in the Old Testament. At the time of the Reformation the Protestant Church took over the doctrine of the Trinity without serious examination.
Life Magazine, October 30, 1950, Vol. 29, No. 18, p. 51 -- The Catholics made this statement concerning their doctrine of the Trinity, to defend the dogma of the assumption of Mary, in an article written by Graham Greene: "Our opponents sometimes claim that no belief should be held dogmatically which is not explicitly stated in Scripture ... But the PROTESTANT CHURCHES have themselves accepted such dogmas as THE TRINITY, for which there is NO SUCH PRECISE AUTHORITY In the Gospels."
Jesus is not God.
John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
Ephesians 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
Jesus didn't know the divine mystery. If Jesus had been God, John 4:22 would have been a lie, and God can not lie.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
The trinity doctrine contradicts those verses. That is why churches that teach the trinity discourage studying the bible, declaring that church tradition is of higher authority than the word of God.
John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
You can check for yourself: everything God does, He does by speaking it. So verse 1 has no confusion until trinity believers inject it there.
What is a word? We have the spoken word, but that is not God. We have the written word, but that is not God. We have the word made flesh, so by what authority do you take that word out of context and declare that is God when the other two are not?
Verse 3 contains a pronoun, him. A pronoun refers to the last preceding qualified noun, and that is God. The bible uses many names for God, but it is never so sloppy to say one name when it means another. Adonai is my shepherd, not YHVH. YHVH gave the law, not elohim. Elohim is the creator, not Jesus.
Genesis 3:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
"It", get it? The savior didn't even have a name until after "it" was born.
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He is (John 8:58, John 8:59, John 10:31-33, John 8:24, Exodus 3:14).
Sorry I just don't see it. How would John 4:22 be a lie if Jesus is God?
And Jesus, being God, could not have not known the divine mystery.
How so?
I think that you have simply glossed over what I emphasize in your words above.
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I would also suggest that you read the following thread:
Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.
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