Defending Homosexuality

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Stranger

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This passage explains that only the lawless gays are the ones in danger of God's wrath.

2 Peter 2:6-10
6 if by turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to ashes he condemned them to extinction, making them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued righteous Lot, greatly distressed by the sensual conduct of the wicked 8 (for as that righteous man lived among them day after day, he was tormenting his righteous soul over their lawless deeds that he saw and heard); 9 then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment until the day of judgment, 10 and especially those who indulge in the lust of defiling passion and despise authority. Bold and willful, they do not tremble as they blaspheme the glorious ones,



You know that passage about women not permitted to speak in church?
It was referring to lawless women speaking out of turn.
It was not referring to your mom.
You let your mom speak in church?
Just the same, scripture is not referring to all gays.

All queers died in Sodom and Gomorrah.

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How do you know they are queers?
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No interest in the opposite sex is one giveaway.
Interest in the same sex is another.
Spotted out on dates is another less common trait.
Living with a same sex partner is a big clue.
And you can pick up more clues in conversation.
 

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That is historically inaccurate. Homosexuals have always been born at about 2% of the population.
The percentage is not known to change.

It is Biblically accurate which gives the true history. All queers died in Sodom and Gommorah.

Queers are not born. They are a perversion.

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No interest in the opposite sex is one giveaway.
Interest in the same sex is another.
Spotted out on dates is another less common trait.
Living with a same sex partner is a big clue.
And you can pick up more clues in conversation.

Then I repeat exactly what I said in post #(719). If they are queers then God has a big problem with them. And you are equally part of the problem in trying to justify homosexuality with Scripture.

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All queers died in Sodom and Gomorrah.

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Yes Stranger, all the "queers" in Sodom died. And so did the hetro's, the hypocrites, the adulterous, the debauched, even the babies. And, I will also say all racists did too.
 
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You claim its a learned behavior, yet I doubt you imagine that you could change
if some religious people said you were opposite nature and needed to.

Good post SW,
"...yet I doubt you imagine that you could change
if some religious people said you were opposite nature and needed to."

Bingo...it's so easy to sit back in our comfy chair and judge those we have absolutely NO idea of what their lives are like. Yeah, what if it were the other way around, could one who is hetro suddenly become attracted to the same sex just because it was the original design? I think not. So, IMHO if one has a homosexual orientation, they have to come to the truth that God's grace is sufficient, even for them - to be content celibate. That is a huge thing....and unless you walk in their shoes...
 
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You claim its a learned behavior, yet I doubt you imagine that you could change
if some religious people said you were opposite nature and needed to.
When did I say it was "learned behavior"? It is usually introduced and groomed behavior, persuasively inculcated into the developing psyche of susceptible children.
 
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Yes Stranger, all the "queers" in Sodom died. And so did the hetro's, the hypocrites, the adulterous, the debauched, even the babies. And, I will also say all racists did too.

I sense some hostility there. Or is it just agreement.

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No hostility at all...just pointing out that not every person in Sodom and Gomorrah were gay...

That is true. In fact, homosexualtiy wasn't even the reason given that God destroyed the city. I don't have the verse at hand but will try and find it. (Ezekiel) comes to mind.

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When did I say it was "learned behavior"? It is usually introduced and groomed behavior, persuasively inculcated into the developing psyche of susceptible children.
Do you know any sane parents who would do this? Thousands speak about how miserable their gay children are.
 

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That is true. In fact, homosexualtiy wasn't even the reason given that God destroyed the city. I don't have the verse at hand but will try and find it. (Ezekiel) comes to mind.

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Hospitality was the given reason. Sodom was scheduled to be restored because Israel was so much worse.
 

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@Nancy

(Eze. 16:48-50)

Notice that we are shown the arrogance and the pride of those in Sodom and Gommorah. Thus we are shown the true attitude of the queers.

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No hostility at all...just pointing out that not every person in Sodom and Gomorrah were gay...

Well, apparently all the men both young and old were. Genesis 19:4-5--->"... before they retired for the night, all the men of Sodom, young and old, came from all over the city and surrounded the house. They shouted to Lot, 'Where are the men who came to spend the night with you? Bring them out to us so we can have sex with them'!”