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In what context are you asking?Any thoughts
In what context are you asking?
So the obvious conclusion is that before the flesh came, our "true self" must have pre-existed in some form, somewhere.I ask the question because some seem to think the spirit is just some floating around aparatus ,when in fact the spirit is our true selves.
In other words our spirit which is who we are will exist outside this flesh
Like for example,do they have mass?
Well scripture teaches us that what is seen was created by that which is not seen. So the physical is a creation of the spiritual. Now spiritual uses physical to manifest itself in the physical realm. But physical cannot comprehend the spiritual without having a spiritual mind towards it. Which is why God says we must worship Him in spirit and in truth.Like for example,do they have mass?
Well scripture teaches us that what is seen was created by that which is not seen. So the physical is a creation of the spiritual. Now spiritual uses physical to manifest itself in the physical realm. But physical cannot comprehend the spiritual without having a spiritual mind towards it. Which is why God says we must worship Him in spirit and in truth.
Spirit is our life source...God breathed the spirit of life into his physical creation. But the physical body is dead and unable to survive without their spirit in them.
Does it have mass...mass is physical. So I would have to say no. Because mass is a collective of matter.
Editing....it does seem that the spiritual can appear as physical ..such as angels appearing to Mary and so forth...
This is a good question.
Mass doesn't even have mass. Mass, like time, is an illusion. It's light and energy.Like for example,do they have mass?
Mass doesn't even have mass. Mass, like time, is an illusion. It's light and energy.
So then... Does spirit have light and energy? Not all spirits. Some are darkness.
A spirit is a created being without a physical body. All angels are spirit beings (who can also take on bodies at will or at God's command) but are essentially spirit beings (invisible but very powerful). Satan (the devil) is the most powerful and evil spirit being, the Adversary of God and man. Almost since the beginning of creation there have been good spirit beings (angels) and bad spirit beings (angels and demons). *Ghosts* are in fact evil spirits, not people coming back to earth after death.Any thoughts
Of course mass has mass in the context of mass. But my point in saying it the way that I did, is because n2thelight has asked his question outside of that context, and with regard to the spirit realm.I don't agree that mass does not have mass. But we do know that mass contains energy, and can store energy, sort of like my car battery.
A spirit is a created being without a physical body. All angels are spirit beings (who can also take on bodies at will or at God's command) but are essentially spirit beings (invisible but very powerful). Satan (the devil) is the most powerful and evil spirit being, the Adversary of God and man. Almost since the beginning of creation there have been good spirit beings (angels) and bad spirit beings (angels and demons). *Ghosts* are in fact evil spirits, not people coming back to earth after death.
God the Father Himself is a Spirit (invisible to mortal man), and so is the Holy Spirit. However the Lord Jesus Christ is in Heaven in His glorious, glorified, exalted and resurrected body. He will always remain in that body, which will have the marks of His crucifixion.
Man himself consists of body, soul, and spirit (the latter two being immaterial and imperishable). The terms *mortal* and *immortal* strictly apply to the body. Upon death the soul and spirit are separated from the body. The body goes into the grave to become dust, whereas the soul and spirit are bound for two destinations, depending on their relationship to God and Christ. Those who are saved go directly to Heaven to be with Christ, whereas those who are not go directly to Hades (in the heart of the earth) to suffer and await their final judgment.
God has guaranteed two resurrections. One for the just (saved) called *the first resurrection*, and the other for the unjust (unsaved) called *the second resurrection*. At the Resurrection/Rapture of the saints, those who have gone to be with Christ will be brought by Him (and with Him) to receive perfect, immortal, glorified bodies (and will be perfected in body, soul, and spirit). Those who are alive at His coming will also be perfected and receive the same kind of bodies (called *spiritual bodies* since they are free from human and mortal limitations). All of this will happen *in the twinkling of an eye*.
Those who are unsaved will be brought out of Hades, and will also receive bodies. And then be judged at the Great White Throne judgment, and eventually cast in to the Lake of Fire. Soul Sleep (souls sleeping in their graves) and Annihilationism (people being annihilated, evaporated, or exterminated) are both bogus and unscriptural teachings.
*Soul* is the person himself or herself -- *the real you*. But immaterial.So . . . How would you define "soul"?? I have searched Scripture, but haven't been able to find anything definitive.
*Soul* is the person himself or herself -- *the real you*. But immaterial.
Thus "eight souls were saved by water" means that eight persons were saved by water. The body is the tabernacle or dwelling place of the soul, and the spirit is attached to the soul, yet distinct from it. Upon death, the two are together separated from the body.
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. (Heb 4:12)
The spirit of man is unique in that animals do not have such spirits. That is because man was created in the image of God, and to have fellowship with God. So the spirit is the portion that communicates with God and comprehends the things of God. Since Adam sinned, all human beings are born with souls (the mind, the will, and *the heart*, or the emotions) which are alive at birth. However the spirit is dead. Therefore Jesus said that it is imperative that we *must be born again*. It is only after the New Birth that God awakens (or quickens) the spirit, and the Holy Spirit comes to dwell within the spirit. Thus we can pray as we should, and also understand spiritual things.
And that simply means "The person who sins will die". Therefore all human beings die and also face the second death. But the soul is imperishable and death means separation. The second death is eternal separation from God.I would tend to agree with most of which you have said. The spirit is eternal, but the soul is not necessarily eternal. "The soul that sinneth shall die."
So the obvious conclusion is that before the flesh came, our "true self" must have pre-existed in some form, somewhere.