Bobby Jo[/QUOTE]
The Bible tells us that we are to (1) try the spirits, and (2) prove all things. Furthermore we will judge angels. So that makes me a judge of what is true and what is false right now.
When Christians go off on tangents and get into weird and bizarre ideas, they are to be corrected by other Christians, since Scripture is given for both reproof and correction (2 Tim 3:16). And those who are corrected should thank those who correct them, rather than chafe at the correction.
You've been dumping on Trump just like all the Left-Liberal Anarchists when you should be thanking God for putting Trump in office. And that is because you are allowing yourself to be influenced by liars.
And I also "test the spirits" Enoch. What makes your "testing" superior than mine? I see a root of pride "I'm right and YOU'RE wrong!" I too will judge angels. And maybe some day you'll thank me for the correction rather than chafing. I study my bible every bit as much as you do.
Chuck Baldwin is no lightweight. From what I understand he was the head of the Moral Majority. JC Sproul is of the belief that the promises are for Christians not the nation of Israel. These are not fringe pastors - they're pastors who have come to see that a lie has been perpetrated. Just because you don't see this yet doesn't mean it's wrong. How many people thought the world was flat, or that Pasteur didn't know what he was talking about, or even that accused Christ of working with Beelzebul? They were small minds. No wonder Quiet Thinker encounters so many fakes - Christians are afraid to share, to ask questions, to take a look at what they've been taught to see if it's truth.
Because I'm still studying Revelations I'm still somewhat on the fence about all this but what really concerns me is how combative some "Christians" get when you step outside of the beliefs that THEY hold and question - as we're told to do. "Prove all things..." Christianity goes out the window. There are pastors who call your beliefs about Israel as weird and going off on tangents. I encourage you to argue your points with them - there are many online.
THE CUTTING EDGE
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One of the most sensitive issues with which secular Israelis and many Messianic Christians struggle is the hexagram on the flag of the modern state of Israel. Satanists recognize this symbol as one of their favorites, and most powerful, i.e., the hexagram. However, secular Jews and many Messianic Christians insist that this symbol is not a hexagram, but is the "Star of David". Such apologists also insist that the symbol has to be all right, because King Solomon was the one who selected the symbol.
We write this article in order to set the record straight -- hopefully for the last time.
The House of Rothschild was the moving force, both politically and financially, behind the original Zionist movement of Jews back to the land of Israel. The Satanic Illuminist, Rothschild, began the Zionist Movement in 1896, funded the agitation through 1948 to get Israel re-established back in the land, and has owned the leadership of Israel up to the current day. To see the reality of this fact, you only need to examine Israel's flag, the most Satanic of all symbols, the hexagram. We have posted several articles on this subject, which, if you have not read them before, you need to stop and read them as background for the information contained in this article. These are the previous Cutting Edge articles:
* NEWS1643 - "Fervent Masonic Desire Is To Rebuild Solomon's Temple On The Temple Mount - Is Also Driving Force Behind All Middle East Events"
* NEWS1874 - "Jewish Authors Confirm Cutting Edge Analysis Of The Black Magick Masonic Control of Zionism, Israel, And Current Middle East Events
* NEWS2128 - "Properly Understanding On Of The Most Important Illuminati Planning Documents - The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion"
In the News Alert for July 24, 2007, I reported that the Hexagram was not the symbol for Modern Israel. Pointed criticism immediately flew my way from a very sincere and very distressed Messianic Christian. I write this article to clear up one of the greatest misconceptions in this modern era.
The hexagram is Satan's symbol for Israel, while the menorah is God's symbol.
Listen to Dr. O.J. Graham, above, as he begins our discussion.
"The quest began at York University, Ontario, Canada, when an Orthodox Jewish friend of mine was investigating Messianic Judaism ...
" '... the Star of David is not Jewish". (Orthodox Jew)
" 'Well, is it Jewish, Judaism, or Zionism?', I smiled." (Dr. Graham speaking)
" 'Not my brand of Judaism. We use the Menorah.' (Orthodox Jew replied)"
Can this be true? Is it possible that God's mandated Menorah is the real symbol for Ancient Israel, and not the "Star of David"?
Listen to Wikipedia Encyclopedia:
"The
menorah (Hebrew: ?????), is a seven branched
candelabrum lit by olive oil in the Tabernacle and the Temple in Jerusalem. The menorah is one of the oldest symbols of the Jewish people. It is said to symbolize the burning bush as seen by Moses on Mount Sinai (Exodus 25). "
Not satisfied? Listen to other sources:
"The Menorah has served as a uniquely Jewish symbol from antiquity to contemporary times. The Menorah can be found on ancient coins, gravestones, synagogue decorations. Today the Menorah serves as the seal and emblem of the Jewish State of Israel." ("About Judaism",
What Is a Hanukkiyah or Hanukkah Menorah? )
Did you catch that pertinent quote? The Menorah was the symbol of Judaism "from antiquity to contemporary times".
"The menorah which appears on the emblem of the State of Israel was copied from the relief carved into the Arch of Titus in Rome, where it had once stood for the suppression of the Jewish Revolt, the conquest of Jerusalem, and the destruction of the Temple. In this context, the symbol of the menorah expresses the thesis and antithesis of Jewish history." (
"The Seventh-Branched Menorah: An Evolving Jewish Symbol", by Ida Huberman)
"The menorah was the most important symbol of the Temple after the Ark of the Covenant. The image of the biblical menorah is the symbol of the modern state of Israel." (
"Israel seeks return of Temple artifacts", World Net Daily, January 16, 2004)
"One of the oldest symbols of the Jewish faith is the menorah, a seven-branched candelabrum used in the Temple." (
"Jewish Symbols: The Menorah", Doing Judaism -
http://www.doingzionism.org.il/resources/view.asp?id=48)
"The menorah is the official symbol of the Jewish nation." (
"The history of the menorah", Jewish-Art.org,
http://www.jewish-art.org/menorah.html )
"The national emblem of the State of Israel includes a seven branched-candelabrum, called Menorah, flanked by two olive branches." ("Menorah - Emblem of the State of Israel", (Israel Science and Technology,
"Menorah - Emblem of the State of Israel",
Menorah - Emblem of Israel )
"The menorah is a seven-branched candelabra often seen on Jewish tombstones, especially those of women. The menorah is one of the oldest symbols of Judaism." (
"Cemeteries and Cemetery Symbols",
Menorah )
"The seven-branched menorah's presence in the Holy Temple had been commanded in the Torah (the Hebrew Bible or Old Testament) ... Over the years, the menorah has evolved to represent more than a candelabra. It has become a symbol of Judaism, and is even used on some Israeli coins." (
"Hanukkah: The Dedication of the Temple, the Meaning of the Menorah, the Whirling Wonder of the Dreidel", Galleria Judaica: The Jewish Wedding Experts" -
http://www.galleryjudaica.com/articles/hanukah.html )