That is my point! I don't deny either, but you do, and that is the problem, that i am confronting you with.So, it is not that those who say Jesus is here, are right or wrong, making those who deny that He is here yet right or wrong. But rather that each speaks for himself according to what is true in "his own order."
Unfortunately, you still prefer to deny His Immortality of His PHYSICAL Ascension.
It wasn't that He disappeared into the likeness of vapor or a spirit, but rather a cloud in the sky rendered their view of Him to become blocked.
Whatever the distance of that cloud was from the earth, that they were standing on, it does NOT matter if He was 20 feet off the ground or 2000 feet, He would've been physically in the AIR!!
Acts 1[9] And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
YES! They watched Him physically Ascend, until a cloud obscurred their vision!!
Do you not see/percieve the similarity of the
"like manner" of His Return?
Please see 1 Thessalonians 4[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.