The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

[justbyfaith]

More ignorance because you reject the Word of God.

Christ gave the power to forgive sins in His name to the leaders of His Church (Matt. 16:180-19, Matt. 18:15-18, John 20:21-23).
As a Catholic, I only need to confess grave (mortal) sin to a priest.

As for calling anybody here an "idiot" - YOU know as well as I do that I never did that - your false accusation, notwithstanding.
I referred to his statements as idiotic .

Even a genius can make an idiotic statement . . .

Keep rationalizing and justifying your sinful behaviour...;)

This thread stinks. I've never seen so many stupid asinine attacks in one place as this thread. A sure sign of anti-Catholic psychosis is how they jump to a different topic with every post, such as Truther. Thank God for the ignore button. This is supposed to be a discussion forum, not a grade 3 English class, and not a psychiatric facility.

Indeed. And even in the above, I am answering a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes (Proverbs 26:5). Unfortunately, in doing so, I also become like him (Proverbs 26:4).

 

[Truther]

And the fact is that neither of you has that Authority. Christ's Church was being called "The Catholic Church" towards the ends of the First century.
Time for another Bible and Linguistics lesson . . .

Acts 9:31 talks about how the Early Church grew throughout the region. The language used here describes the Catholic Church:
“Then the church throughout Judea, Galilee, and Samaria experienced peace and thus was strengthened. Living in the fear of the Lord and in the encouragement of the Holy Spirit, the church increased in numbers.”

According to Strong’s Greek Concordance – which is used by Protestants AND Catholics alike – the verse is translated as:
“The true Church throughout all Judea . . .”

Here is the phrase in Greek:
η μεν ουν εκκλησια καθ ολης της ιουδαιας

The Catholic Church gets its name from the GREEK for “according to the whole” and “universal” - εκκλησια καθ ολης, which is pronounced “katah-holos”.

Εκκλησια (ekklesia) - A gathering of citizens called out from their homes into some public place, an assembly; CHURCH
καθ (katah) - Through out, according to
ολης (holos) - All, whole, completely
"Kata-holos" = CATHOLIC.

Acts 9:31 opens with the following words:
Ἡ μὲν οὖν ἐκκλησία καθ᾿ ὅλης
Ho hay men oon ek-klay-see'-ah kat-ah' hol'-os
This truly then church catholic

- Jesus established ONE Church (Matt. 16:16-19). He prayed fervently that this Church remain ONE - as He and the Father are ONE (John 17:20-23). There is NO other.
- Jesus is Truth itself (John 14:6).
- Jesus promised His Church that the Holy Spirit would guide her to ALL Truth (John 16:12-15).
- The Church is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth (1 Tim. 3:15).
- The Church is the Body of Christ and He is the Head (1 Cor. 12:12-31, Eph. 4:3-6, Col. 1:8).
- The Church is the FULLNESS of Christ (Eph. 1:22-23).
- Jesus identifies His very SELF with His Church (Acts 9:4-5).
- Jesus gave the Church supreme Authority on earth and whatever it ordains on earth is also ordained in heaven (Matt. 16:18-19, 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 20:21-23).

Roman Catholic Church?

What verse please?

 

[Truther]

No they don't. That's just you being ignorant again.

MAN, I feel for your children . . .

I am glad for my children that I did not expose them to Catholicism.

“Here kid, get in the black box and confess your wretched sins to the wretched priest, to make him more wretched. Then go say 29 our Fathers and 10 hail Mary’s.
Oh, and don’t confess to Jesus because the RCC has no rosary prayers to Him.

 

[justbyfaith]

@BreadOfLife

- The Church is the Body of Christ and He is the Head (1 Cor. 12:12-31, Eph. 4:3-6, Col. 1:8).

Therefore the Pope is not the head...and the church also consists of all those who believe in Jesus Christ and are even born again of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Truther]

The Bible....


The head of the woman is the man, the head of the man is Christ and the head of Christ is God.


The RCC....


The head of the woman is the man, the head of the man is the priest, the head of the priest is the bishop, the head of the bishop is the cardinal, the head of the cardinal is the Pope, the head of the Pope is......

 

[Truther]

Then you can add idolatry to your litany of heresies - along with your denial of the Trinity . . .

The author of the trinity is the RCC.

That’s all I need to question it.

 

[Illuminator]

@BreadOfLife
Therefore the Pope is not the head...and the church also consists of all those who believe in Jesus Christ and are even born again of the Holy Spirit.

The Pope is head of the Catholic Church, NOT YOURS, and he is not trying to be but you can't just leave it alone.

 

[justbyfaith]

The Pope is head of the Catholic Church, NOT YOURS, and he is not trying to be but you can't just leave it alone.

I feel that this post tells me that I am getting through to you.

Praise the LORD!

 

[BreadOfLife]

Behold, God's mama.

....you don't talk bad about God's mama....

No, you don't
He honored His mother and expects NO less from you.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Roman Catholic Church?

What verse please?

The Church isn't called "The Roman Catholic Church", Einstein.
Do your homework.

"Roman" Catholic refers to the Liturgical Rite. there are about TWENTY Liturgical Rites that comprise the Catholic Church.
Among them are the Byzantine, Coptic, Melkite, Maronite, etc - and they are ALL in communion with each other.

The official name of the Catholic Church is "The Catholic Church" - which is 100% Biblical (Acts 9:31), as I educated you earlier.

 

[BreadOfLife]

The author of the trinity is the RCC.

That’s all I need to question it.

The Trinity doesn't have an "author".

However, the Trinity is revealed in the Scriptures (Gen. 1:26, Matt. 28:19, John 15:26, 1 Cor. 12:4-6, 2 Cor. 13:14, 1 John 5:7, Eph. 4:6, Psalm 68:5, Mal. 2:10, Isa. 63:16, 2 Cor. 1:3-4, John 3:16, John 8:41, 1 Thess. 3:13, Isa. 7:14, Isa. 9:6, John 1:1, John 1:3, John 8:58, John 10:30, John 15:9, John 20:28, Acts 5:3-4, 2 Cor. 4:4, Phil. 2:6, Col. 2:9, 1 Tim. 3:16, Heb. 1:8, Tit. 2:13, John 14:16-18, Luke 12:10, 2 Cor. 3:17, 2 Cor. 13:5, John 14:23, Acts 5:3-4)

STUDY your Bible, Einstein . . .

 

[Truther]

The Trinity doesn't have an "author".

However, the Trinity is revealed in the Scriptures (Gen. 1:26, Matt. 28:19, John 15:26, 1 Cor. 12:4-6, 2 Cor. 13:14, 1 John 5:7, Eph. 4:6, Psalm 68:5, Mal. 2:10, Isa. 63:16, 2 Cor. 1:3-4, John 3:16, John 8:41, 1 Thess. 3:13, Isa. 7:14, Isa. 9:6, John 1:1, John 1:3, John 8:58, John 10:30, John 15:9, John 20:28, Acts 5:3-4, 2 Cor. 4:4, Phil. 2:6, Col. 2:9, 1 Tim. 3:16, Heb. 1:8, Tit. 2:13, John 14:16-18, Luke 12:10, 2 Cor. 3:17, 2 Cor. 13:5, John 14:23, Acts 5:3-4)

STUDY your Bible, Einstein . . .

No, the author of the trinity is the Nicene creed, created hundreds of years after the day of Pentecost.

They introduced it to the world as official RCC doctrine.

Since the scriptures were rare to own by a public person, folks obeyed by faith that the RCC taught them the truth....bringing in the dark ages.

 

[Truther]

The Church isn't called "The Roman Catholic Church", Einstein.
Do your homework.

"Roman" Catholic refers to the Liturgical Rite. there are about TWENTY Liturgical Rites that comprise the Catholic Church.
Among them are the Byzantine, Coptic, Melkite, Maronite, etc - and they are ALL in communion with each other.

The official name of the Catholic Church is "The Catholic Church" - which is 100% Biblical (Acts 9:31), as I educated you earlier.

The Church is the body of Christ per the 1st century at Pentecost(prophesied in Matt 16 by Jesus).

The Church isn't the RCC...you are correct, because it started centuries later.

 

[Truther]

No, you don't
He honored His mother and expects NO less from you.

I honor the mother of Jesus as typical saint, but don't pray to her.

Do you pray to her?

If so, what do you say to her?

Do you say the same words again and again(rosary)?

 

[BreadOfLife]

No, the author of the trinity is the Nicene creed, created hundreds of years after the day of Pentecost.
They introduced it to the world as official RCC doctrine.
Since the scriptures were rare to own by a public person, folks obeyed by faith that the RCC taught them the truth....bringing in the dark ages.

Wrong, my extremely ignorant and historically-bankrupt friend.
The Nicene Creed was simply an amalgamation of the beliefs of the Church at the time. The Trinity was in the process of being officially defined. That was the function of the Councils. they weren't convened to "invent" doctrines, but yto EXPLAIN doctrines that were ALREADY believed and taught.

This goes ALL the way back to the Council of Jerusalem ion Acts 15.
STUDY your Bible . . .

 

[justbyfaith]

No, you don't
He honored His mother and expects NO less from you.

Jesus actually transferred Mary's motherhood from Himself to John the apostle in John 19:25-27.

 

[BreadOfLife]

The Church is the body of Christ per the 1st century at Pentecost(prophesied in Matt 16 by Jesus).
The Church isn't the RCC...you are correct, because it started centuries later.

The Church never was the "RCC", Einstein. that's what I just got done explaining to you.
It is The Catholic Church . . .

 

[Truther]

Wrong, my extremely ignorant and historically-bankrupt friend.
The Nicene Creed was simply an amalgamation of the beliefs of the Church at the time. The Trinity was in the process of being officially defined. That was the function of the Councils. they weren't convened to "invent" doctrines, but yto EXPLAIN doctrines that were ALREADY believed and taught.

This goes ALL the way back to the Council of Jerusalem ion Acts 15.
STUDY your Bible . . .

Acts 15 taught the trinity?

Please post it here.

Thanks.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Jesus actually transferred Mary's motherhood from himself to John the apostle in John 19:25-27.

Why??
I thought Protestants and people like YOU believed that He has brothers and sisters?

This would have been scandalous to give His mother to a person outside the family.

 

[Truther]

Jesus actually transferred Mary's motherhood from himself to John the apostle in John 19:25-27.

So you pray to John too?