The Bible is Written in Metaphors

[Timtofly]

Is the marriage supper of the Lamb a metaphor too?

This term is a metaphor for a real event. I do not claim to know what actually happens in this event. I do not know what you are asking because you are not being specific. If you had asked "is the marriage supper of the lamb an actual event", I would say yes, because you used the metaphor found in the Bible.

If you had asked if I went to the wedding ceremony of princess Dianne and prince Charles which is not a metaphor, I could still give you a literal answer.

 

[Bobby Jo]

To all.
Some people actually think that the entire book of Revelation is metaphoric and not a physical reality defined and emphasized by a few minor signs.
They are dangerous to our salvation because they specialize in redefining scripture per their taste buds.
Those folks are preterists etc., and practice replacement theology on various groups and levels.
Beware of the Biblical redefinitionists.

To All,
Jesus used parables. He didn't explain the LITERAL CONCEPTS to either the religious or the masses. And @Truther would apparently have you interpret ALL SCRIPTURE as literal, because you're too stupid to understand figurative/allegorical/simile depictions.

Well, maybe you're not too stupid, but those who don't trust the Holy Spirit to reveal Scripture, certainly may be.
Bobby Jo

 

[Jay Ross]

More chaff.

On -- IGNORE--.
Bobby Jo

Really, I wonder how many people have put you on ignore because of all the BS you post under the guise of being knowledgeable. Your posts are so light of substance that the wind blows them away with their choice of using the ignore switch for anything that you ay post..

 

[Bobby Jo]

More chaff.

On -- IGNORE--.
Bobby Jo

To All,

It would seem that while the world deteriorates into anarchy, so too the church where many FALSE doctrines abound. And because these so-called "christians" can't defend their doctrines, they apparently feel they MUST resort to personal attacks -- which Scripture warns against:

Mtt. 12:36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.
1 Jhn 3:15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.​

And so it would appear that we're not only in the end times, -- we're in the Tribulation.


... and I would surmise that we're some 24 months into the 42 month duration (Rev. 13:5), -- leaving some 18 months to go.
Bobby Jo

 

[Jay Ross]

To All,

It would seem that while the world deteriorates into anarchy, so too the church where many FALSE doctrines abound. And because these so-called "christians" can't defend their doctrines, they apparently feel they MUST resort to personal attacks -- which Scripture warns against:

Mtt. 12:36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.
1 Jhn 3:15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.​

And so it would appear that we're not only in the end times, -- we're in the Tribulation.


... and I would surmise that we're some 24 months into the 42 month duration (Rev. 13:5), -- leaving some 18 months to go.
Bobby Jo

LOL - More chaff from Bobby Jo with nothing to support his claims except his own beliefs that he knows the answers and everybody else is a fool in his eyes.

 

[Truther]

To All,
Jesus used parables. He didn't explain the LITERAL CONCEPTS to either the religious or the masses. And @Truther would apparently have you interpret ALL SCRIPTURE as literal, because you're too stupid to understand figurative/allegorical/simile depictions.

Well, maybe you're not too stupid, but those who don't trust the Holy Spirit to reveal Scripture, certainly may be.
Bobby Jo

To all.

Jesus used comparisons per real life situations to make his point.

These were literal and not figurative comparisons.

Jesus did not make up stuff like some silly story teller, metaphorically speaking to an audience.

There is only 1 interpretation per parable, which were easily understood by 1st century Spirit filled believers.

These parables were used like comparative signs, just like the literal book of Revelation has some signs.

 

[Truther]

This term is a metaphor for a real event. I do not claim to know what actually happens in this event. I do not know what you are asking because you are not being specific. If you had asked "is the marriage supper of the lamb an actual event", I would say yes, because you used the metaphor found in the Bible.

If you had asked if I went to the wedding ceremony of princess Dianne and prince Charles which is not a metaphor, I could still give you a literal answer.

The bride of Christ is an actual bride, so is the celebration supper of the lamb.

Dont exclude yourself from both because you think they are speaking metaphorically(about something else).

You or anyone else are not qualified to make something you don't understand mean something else.

Best not to add or remove to the scripture, right?

 

[Timtofly]

The bride of Christ is an actual bride, so is the celebration supper of the lamb.

Dont exclude yourself from both because you think they are speaking metaphorically(about something else).

You or anyone else are not qualified to make something you don't understand mean something else.

Best not to add or remove to the scripture, right?

The point is not about Scripture.

It is about understanding how literary devices are used by an author.

The claim was falsely made that metaphors are basic lies. That is not how any one who writes uses them. Metaphors paint a picture. They are not lies.

 

[101G]

A metaphor is a figure of speech that, for rhetorical effect, directly refers to one thing by mentioning another. It may provide clarity or identify hidden similarities between two ideas. Metaphors are often compared with other types of figurative language, such as antithesis, hyperbole, metonymy and simile. these metaphor holds a spiritual truth.

PICJAG.

 

[Jay Ross]

Hello

Previously, I had commented on a post where the Parable of the Fig tree planted by a man who each season came to see if the fig tree had produced any fruit was mentioned and also provided Gill's cometary as to his understanding of the parable.

Gill in his commentary changed the easily understood metaphor during the time that Jesus told this parable from the nation of Israel to the Church during the time of Gill's life.

In my post I explained how the metaphor of the fig tree started with the birth of Isaac, as Isaac was the confirmation for Abraham that God's covenant with him was true and could be believed by the miracle of Isaac's birth to a 90 year old barren woman, Abraham's wife.

In the parable, Jesus told how the owner, (a metaphor for God), of the vineyard, (a metaphor for God's kingdom on the earth), came at the end of each year, (a metaphor for a season/age), to inspect the fruit that the Fig Tree was producing and after the end of the third year/season/age, the owner of the vineyard, told the vinedresser of the vineyard to dig up the Fig Tree as it was using up the soil where it was planted, which could be used for a better purpose, but the vinedresser intercedes on behalf of the Fig Tree and asks for another year/season/age to see if the Fig Tree produces any fruit at the end of that year/season/age, and if it did, well and good, but if it does not produce any fruit by then then you can have it cut down.​

Gill in his commentary on this verse, changed the meaning of the metaphor, Fig Tree, to have the meaning of "the Church," to serve his own purposes within his expectations of the purposes of the Church during his lifetime.

I was told by @Preacher4Truth, who has a site where he states his purpose as: -



This: -



His attack on my character was to imply that I was possibly the only person who held this view and that to prove I was right I had to provide a paper or work from another “Godly man” who agreed with and believed as I had posted previously.

Since Preacher4Truth nor anyone else has not posted an apology to support Preacher4Truth's accusation, that i am way off track, I can only assume that what I had previously posted was the tight understanding to have of this parable of Jesus'.

Shalom

PS: - I wonder what Leighton Flowers has done to get up the nose of Preacher4Truth for him to start hating Leighton so much.

 

[Truther]

The point is not about Scripture.

It is about understanding how literary devices are used by an author.

The claim was falsely made that metaphors are basic lies. That is not how any one who writes uses them. Metaphors paint a picture. They are not lies.

They are indeed misleading and lies....a white lie.

The Lie and The Metaphor


Another link about them.

 

[Joseph77]

False source.

 

[Timtofly]

They are indeed misleading and lies....a white lie.

The Lie and The Metaphor


Another link about them.

Probably time to stop protesting God Himself, and stop questioning the Word of God. There are other things God wants you to do, that you are avoiding and making excuses for.

 

[Truther]

People also ask
Are metaphors lies?
Metaphors are lies too. They are acknowledged to be what they are, in order to assist communication.Feb 9, 2017


....etc.

 

[Truther]

Probably time to stop protesting God Himself, and stop questioning the Word of God. There are other things God wants you to do, that you are avoiding and making excuses for.

All I am doing is trying to get you guys to realize God used "comparisons", not "metaphor"s.

Metaphor is a bad word to describe God's word to the educated world, because they see metaphors as deceptive.

You work against the word of God in the mind of the linguist.

 

[Timtofly]

Because arguing a mute point is counter productive.

You cannot read every single human mind who just happened to read this thread, to see who knows and does not know, what you think they know about metaphors.

What is God comparing in the Book of Revelation?

 

[Truther]

Because arguing a mute point is counter productive.

You cannot read every single human mind who just happened to read this thread, to see who knows and does not know, what you think they know about metaphors.

What is God comparing in the Book of Revelation?

Signs, not metaphors...


1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

 

[bbyrd009]

Signs, not metaphors...


1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

how is it you did not know I was not talking about bread?

 

[Timtofly]

Signs, not metaphors...
1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

A sign is seeing what John saw happen.

John put these signs in metaphor format, because painting a picture makes more sense than writing this in Revelation:

"I John being led of the Spirit was taken to 2020. The first seal was opened. I saw on TV screens these hot spots of red called a pandemic by those living on earth. This so called virus named by man, but which the angel told me is a small army of white horses having small red crowns all over their bodies. This fact has been hid so men cannot blame God, but point fingers at each other.

After this, the second seal was opened, this virus actually brought humans together in a seemingly peaceful time on earth. But the angel told me that due to the nature of man this peace will not last. The armies of earth will roll out their tanks and armies. They have airplanes, that shoot missiles, there are also mighty boats on the seas and rivers reigning down bullets on all mankind. Trump tried to gain the upper hand and sent nuclear missiles to hit certain cities in Russia and China. These caused huge devastation and the skin and flesh were consumed off the bodies of all humans affected by these nuclear missiles."

Can you see that a literal account of every thing that John saw, could not be literally put in words. Thus John used metaphor to paint a picture.

Then when it happens, no one heeds the warnings any ways, and John questions God why he was told to write it all down.

God did not lie when using metaphor, because the Holy Spirit is telling people what is up and they need to trust God like all humanity has done since Adam disobeyed.

 

[Truther]

A sign is seeing what John saw happen.

John put these signs in metaphor format, because painting a picture makes more sense than writing this in Revelation:

"I John being led of the Spirit was taken to 2020. The first seal was opened. I saw on TV screens these hot spots of red called a pandemic by those living on earth. This so called virus named by man, but which the angel told me is a small army of white horses having small red crowns all over their bodies. This fact has been hid so men cannot blame God, but point fingers at each other.

After this, the second seal was opened, this virus actually brought humans together in a seemingly peaceful time on earth. But the angel told me that due to the nature of man this peace will not last. The armies of earth will roll out their tanks and armies. They have airplanes, that shoot missiles, there are also mighty boats on the seas and rivers reigning down bullets on all mankind. Trump tried to gain the upper hand and sent nuclear missiles to hit certain cities in Russia and China. These caused huge devastation and the skin and flesh were consumed off the bodies of all humans affected by these nuclear missiles."

Can you see that a literal account of every thing that John saw, could not be literally put in words. Thus John used metaphor to paint a picture.

Then when it happens, no one heeds the warnings any ways, and John questions God why he was told to write it all down.

God did not lie when using metaphor, because the Holy Spirit is telling people what is up and they need to trust God like all humanity has done since Adam disobeyed.

When you see a street sign saying 15 mph turn at a cliff, do you ponder on it's meaning or do you immediately react at it's description?

This sign is not a metaphor, lest you plunge into the ravine wondering what it could mean.

The few signs found in Revelation directly mean something specific and literal as street signs do, not like poetic metaphors meaning many things.

Metaphors are open ended ideas. Metaphors are a type of white lying.

Here is the result of implying the book of Revelation is a metaphor....


18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.



....words from God are very specific and matter.