Shedding of blood for remission of sins

[Joseph77]

Exodus 20:4 You shall not make for yourself an idol of any ...

Exodus 20:4 You shall not make for yourself an idol of any kind or an image of anything in the heavens above, on the earth beneath, or in the waters below.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

 

[GTW27]

Really?
When did you see Michael ?

i.e. it is idolatry extreme = graven, idolatrous images.

Blessings in Christ Jesus! I do not see a graven image, unless there is one called Jeff. Just kidding. The words that I bring you have tested before and found to be _______.

 

[Joseph77]

The words that I bring you have tested before and found to be _______.

Exodus 20:4 You shall not make for yourself an idol of any ...

Exodus 20:4 You shall not make for yourself an idol of any kind or an image of anything in the heavens above, on the earth beneath, or in the waters below.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

 

[GTW27]

A while back God was speaking to me and said my new name is Sarah..(I may regret sharing this publicly)...I am still not sure why I had to have a new name except that it is time to move in my calling....finally.

Blessings in Christ Jesus! There is much more to this, than what has been revealed to you so far. In it's season it will become clear.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Well, it is reality - spiritual fornication and spiritual drunkenness , very common, very frequent on earth.

Maybe literal is not the best word then ...only meant I twelve pack of beer doesn’t hold the same power as the blood.

Isaiah 27:2-3 In that day sing ye unto her, A vineyard of red wine. [3] I the Lord do keep it; I will water it every moment: lest any hurt it, I will keep it night and day.

Exodus 4:8-11 And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither hearken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign. [9] And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe also these two signs, neither hearken unto thy voice, that thou shalt take of the water of the river, and pour it upon the dry land : and the water which thou takest out of the river shall become blood upon the dry land. [10] And Moses said unto the Lord, O my Lord, I am not eloquent, neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken unto thy servant: but I am slow of speech, and of a slow tongue. [11] And the Lord said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the Lord ?

 

[Joseph77]

"literal" is good, as understood.

 

[amadeus]

@Heart2Soul
I wrote the following here a couple of years ago and have only revised it slightly to fit in with this thread:

The Spirit is the Blood of Jesus. In the OT especially in the Book of Leviticus it is made clear that life is in the blood, but that is speaking of carnal animals [and people] having physical life. It was a type or shadow the real Life which was given up in Eden, but brought back by Jesus. Jesus came as a physical man with physical blood and he shed that blood, but he also shed something that no physical man had, the Spirit. Men had spirit, but it was corrupted with no real Life in it. Men with only the red blood of the body were effectively dead. Jesus came to change that. He did not do it with by sharing with us the red blood of his also corruptible [corruptible, but NOT corrupted] body of flesh. The real Life lost in the Garden was and is the Spirit [Read Holy Spirit!]


"And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." Rev 7:14

So the Blood of the Lamb makes no one red, but rather White.
Consider Esau [rough] who was called Edom [red] because he ate of the red pottage made by Jacob in exchange for his birthright.
Did not Jesus bring us something better than red pottage? How about robes made white by his Blood? How does this relate to this verse?

"But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation.
For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed: for the LORD dwelleth in Zion." Joel 3:20-21

In the natural we might believe that this was a sorting out of the mixed bloodlines of the natural Israelites [see Ezra 9:2-3 where Ezra was so upset he pulled out his own beard.] This may be right, but could this not also be simply a type of shadow of the double mindedness of Christian believers? What is Zion? One Hebrew derivation of the word means "dry or barren land". That is what every one of us were before we received Life from Jesus. Spiritually, we effectively had no Blood [Holy Spirit] in us. We were dead. Jesus said, "Let the dead bury their dead" [Matt 8:22]. Apostle Paul writes:

"Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." II Cor 3:6

The red blood of Jesus was shed or poured out on Calvary, but Peter citing and explaining the prophecy of Joel tells us about the
"white blood" [Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost] poured out here:

"But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:" Acts 2:17-18

"Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." Acts 2:37-39

Then again...

"Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." II Cor 3:6

Consider the "Blood" of the Body of Christ then is not that red blood of the man Jesus poured on Calvary, but that white and whitening Holy Spirit poured out first on Pentecost as per the Acts chapter 2

 

[VictoryinJesus]

This saying that Jesus said was too offensive for some and they turned away from Him.

Maybe It was the cost which was offensive. Mark 4:16-17 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness; [17] And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.

 

[Joseph77]

Maybe It was the cost which was offensive. Mark 4:16-17 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness; [17] And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.

Cool timing.

Just was looking for another thread (I think) about the mark , but it applies here as well >>>

"Bottom line – all Christians who get caught up in this predicament will have to be willing to lay down their lives for the Lord. In other words, they will be martyred for their faith. This will be the ultimate test of faith for any Christian to pass.

I really believe that God put this warning in writing in His Word because He knows many of His people may get weak and scared if they are approached with this choice by the Antichrist.

But each Christian will simply have to override any fears or doubts they may have, believe what the Word of God has to say about the matter, and be willing to die for their faith in the Lord. If they do not, their eventual end will be too horrible for any human words to describe."

Mark Of The Beast
By: Michael Bradley
Last updated on: November 19, 2018

 

[Cooper]

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Isn't it the 'shed blood' i.e. the death of Jesus Christ that cleanses us from all sin?

For this is my blood of the New Testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Matthew 26:28

It is shed for many. Christ came to confirm a covenant with many (Dan_9:27), and the intent of his death agreed. The blood of the Old Testament was shed for a few: it confirmed a covenant, which (saith Moses) the Lord has made with you, Exo_24:8. The atonement was made only for the children of Israel (Lev_16:34): but Jesus Christ is a propitiation for the sins of the whole world, 1Jn_2:2.

It is shed for the remission of sins, that is, to purchase remission of sins for us. The redemption which we have through his blood, is the remission of sins, Eph_1:7. The new covenant which is procured and ratified by the blood of Christ, is a charter of pardon, an act of indemnity, in order to a reconciliation between God and man; for sin was the only thing that made the quarrel, and without shedding of blood is no remission, Heb_9:22.

The pardon of sin is that great blessing which is, in the Lord's supper, conferred upon all true believers; it is the foundation of all other blessings, and the spring of everlasting comfort, Heb_12:2, Heb_12:3.

A farewell is now bidden to the fruit of the vine, Heb_12:29. Christ and his disciples had now feasted together with a deal of comfort, in both an Old Testament and a New Testament festival, fibula utriusque Testamenti - the connecting tie of both Testaments.
(Matthew Henry)
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[Heart2Soul]

@Heart2Soul
I wrote the following here a couple of years ago and have only revised it slightly to fit in with this thread:

The Spirit is the Blood of Jesus. In the OT especially in the Book of Leviticus it is made clear that life is in the blood, but that is speaking of carnal animals [and people] having physical life. It was a type or shadow the real Life which was given up in Eden, but brought back by Jesus. Jesus came as a physical man with physical blood and he shed that blood, but he also shed something that no physical man had, the Spirit. Men had spirit, but it was corrupted with no real Life in it. Men with only the red blood of the body were effectively dead. Jesus came to change that. He did not do it with by sharing with us the red blood of his also corruptible [corruptible, but NOT corrupted] body of flesh. The real Life lost in the Garden was and is the Spirit [Read Holy Spirit!]


"And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." Rev 7:14

So the Blood of the Lamb makes no one red, but rather White.
Consider Esau [rough] who was called Edom [red] because he ate of the red pottage made by Jacob in exchange for his birthright.
Did not Jesus bring us something better than red pottage? How about robes made white by his Blood? How does this relate to this verse?

"But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation.
For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed: for the LORD dwelleth in Zion." Joel 3:20-21

In the natural we might believe that this was a sorting out of the mixed bloodlines of the natural Israelites [see Ezra 9:2-3 where Ezra was so upset he pulled out his own beard.] This may be right, but could this not also be simply a type of shadow of the double mindedness of Christian believers? What is Zion? One Hebrew derivation of the word means "dry or barren land". That is what every one of us were before we received Life from Jesus. Spiritually, we effectively had no Blood [Holy Spirit] in us. We were dead. Jesus said, "Let the dead bury their dead" [Matt 8:22]. Apostle Paul writes:

"Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." II Cor 3:6

The red blood of Jesus was shed or poured out on Calvary, but Peter citing and explaining the prophecy of Joel tells us about the
"white blood" [Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost] poured out here:

"But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:" Acts 2:17-18

"Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." Acts 2:37-39

Then again...

"Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life." II Cor 3:6

Consider the "Blood" of the Body of Christ then is not that red blood of the man Jesus poured on Calvary, but that white and whitening Holy Spirit poured out first on Pentecost as per the Acts chapter 2

This is an awesome teaching that you shared.....I believe it is lead of the Holy Spirit...it sheds light on the darkness....spirit over carnal....which is how it should be.
God Bless and thank you for sharing!

 

[Joseph77]

Isn't it the 'shed blood' i.e. the death of Jesus Christ that cleanses us from all sin?

Yes, His Blood. The Atonement for our sins.

 

[Cooper]

Yes, His Blood. The Atonement for our sins.

That was a rhetorical question that did not need a reply.
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[Joseph77]

Rhetorical question.

It is not 'exactly' the same as His Death,
nor is it the same as His Life lived on earth (as if His Life lived holy on earth paid the price - it didn't) it is - The Blood, His Blood, is shown distinct , and is required.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

A while back God was speaking to me and said my new name is Sarah..(I may regret sharing this publicly)...I am still not sure why I had to have a new name except that it is time to move in my calling....finally.

Consider Revelation 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.(Christ)
“In the (white)stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receives it”

With all the references to He came unto His own and they “received him not” neither did they know Him. The carnal man cannot “receive the things of God” is the same as saying one must be born of the Spirit. With also, you must become like a child to “receive” the kingdom of God. Don’t know how else to bring out how significant and powerful is the “which no man knoweth saving he that receives it”

Isaiah 62:2-3 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name. [3] Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the Lord, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.

Revelation 3:12-13Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. [13] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

“which no man knoweth saving he that receives it” Galatians 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Similar too: Matthew 19:11-12 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. [12] For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

 

[Joseph77]

QUOTE="VictoryinJesus, post: 727619, member: 7369"]Consider Revelation 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
“In the (white)stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receives it”

With all the references to He came unto His own and they “received him not” neither did they know Him. The carnal man cannot “receive the things of God” is the same as saying one must be born of the Spirit. With also, you must become like a child to “receive” the kingdom of God. Don’t know how else to bring out how significant and powerful is the “which no man knoweth saving he that receives it”[/QUOTE
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QUOTE="VictoryinJesus, post: 727619, member: 7369"]“which no man knoweth saving he that receives it” Galatians 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.[/QUOTE
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COOL!

 

[Heart2Soul]

Consider Revelation 2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.(Christ)
“In the (white)stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receives it”

With all the references to He came unto His own and they “received him not” neither did they know Him. The carnal man cannot “receive the things of God” is the same as saying one must be born of the Spirit. With also, you must become like a child to “receive” the kingdom of God. Don’t know how else to bring out how significant and powerful is the “which no man knoweth saving he that receives it”

Isaiah 62:2-3 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name. [3] Thou shalt also be a crown of glory in the hand of the Lord, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.

Revelation 3:12-13Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. [13] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

“which no man knoweth saving he that receives it” Galatians 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Similar too: Matthew 19:11-12 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. [12] For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

Outstanding! Thank you!

 

[FollowHim]

He said alot there.....so only one question....we are not to drink blood but Jesus said drink. This is my blood....what's this referring to?

Jesus's blood is His life lain down for the forgiveness of sins. His body is His work, actions, deeds lain down for the forgiveness of sins.
We are to accept these two sacrifices as something that is essential to our salvation, the way, the truth and the life.

In likewise fashion we are to lay down our lives for others, in work, in actions and in deeds in the face of the sin and sinning of others.
We know love because God first loved us, so we have to show love to others before they show love to us.

This debt to Jesus is our life, and is hard to take from He whom we love. How can our deeds and behaviour cause Him to have to die a sinners punishment while He was innocent without fault.

It is the significance of this love and sacrifice that washes emotionally our soul, our conscience, our heart. I used to think this was just a spiritual law outside my emotional life, the cleansing, until I realised the power of the cross is in knowing the Lord of love gave His life for me. What debt I owe that can never be paid, what statement of complete overwhelming acceptance can I ever try and prove my worth against. I am undone, I am taken captive, I am without merit or excuse, for He is Christ, the Lord of All, worthy of All our Praise and Worship, Amen.

When Jesus said, "It is finished", He had finished His work of what Gods love can do for man, while man claims excuses and justification for his sin, God shows His heart and the open door which man could walk through, if he would listen. In comparison our response is just admitting the truth, opening the door in our hearts and starting the walk. But it is the hardest thing any human can do, for upon this eternity hangs. God bless you

 

[Base12]

What does God's Word Say about graven images - images made of anything in heaven?

His Word is Truth. His Word is Right.

Glad you asked!

Let's examine your BFF Baphomet for the answer...

Baphomet is one of, if not the most, wickedest images ever created. When analyzing this Image of the Beast, we find that it is made of several creatures...

Deuteronomy 4:16-19
"Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of...

• Male or Female, The likeness of any...
• Beast that is on the earth, the likeness of any...
• Winged Fowl that flieth in the air, The likeness of any...
• Thing That Creepeth on the ground, the likeness of any...
• Fish that is in the waters beneath the earth: And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto...
• Heaven, and when thou seest the...
• Sun, and the...
• Moon, and the...
• Stars, even all the...
• Host of Heaven

...shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven."

Everything described in the verses above are contained in the image of Baphomet. I am of the opinion that Levi did that on purpose to spite God.

Thus Baphomet represents everything God said not to do. It could be argued that it represents the Unpardonable Sin.

Why?

Baphomet is in fact a Genetically Modified Organism or GMO...

A genetically modified organism (GMO) is any organism whose genetic material has been altered using genetic engineering techniques. The exact definition of a genetically modified organism and what constitutes genetic engineering varies, with the most common being an organism altered in a way that "does not occur naturally by mating and/or natural recombination".

Genetically modified organism - Wikipedia

Therefore, when God is referring to Graven Images, He is referring to TRANSHUMANISM.

You would be wise to take heed of what I am posting here. Many, including YOU Joseph77, are in danger of taking the Mark of the Beast soon as you don't understand what it is yet.

Once One alters their DNA, there is no going back.

 

[Joseph77]

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