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I have a dilemma. I had a vision, and this vision authenticates me as the gate keeper to heaven, because I have the higher way that others merely dreamed of, they spoke through a glass darkly I speak because I have seen and see daily.

Now imagine I have this experience, no lsd, no obvious reason but this thing happens. How do I know it is from God and I am not just going nuts?
I would want confirmation from others that I am speaking from Jesus and scripture, that the whole revelation of God confirms my position.
I would then want to see how many others had similar experiences and what happened to them.

And I will discover man and pride wants so badly to be the prophet, the gate keeper, the revealer, and these revelations often lead to me having a few extra wives, breaking normal social boundaries, power and absolute authority were to disagree with me is to disagree with God, and if I go too far, something rather fatal occurs.

What grounds me in Christ is what the apostles said.

11 Make it your ambition to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business and to work with your hands, just as we told you,
12 so that your daily life may win the respect of outsiders and so that you will not be dependent on anybody.
1 Thess 4:11-12

15 But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect,
16 keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.
1 Peter 3:15-16

Almost without fail false prophets and teachers condemn what went before as evil, empty, nothingness, and they are the fountain of truth alone or their group, and everything else is just a distortion, brain washing that the deluded follow. And for those disallusioned and despairing this sounds very attractive, except when the faith goes from the individual to the authority figure, because then boundaries can be crossed and things go from promise to exploitation.

Sadly the initial trigger may well be something real, ie a vision or dream, but its meaning is as random as the mind sometimes.
Let us list a few. Mohammed Muslims, Joseph Smith LDS, Charles Taze Russell JW.
These are the most successful, there have been thousands of others. Some say they are Jesus, some a prophet, some a priest all find some deeper meaning in the texts that others have missed, or a new revelation from an angel etc.

Paul himself feared he was in error.

2 I went in response to a revelation and set before them the gospel that I preach among the Gentiles. But I did this privately to those who seemed to be leaders, for fear that I was running or had run my race in vain.
Gal 2:2

Paul founded his whole ministry on a vision, confirmed by prophets, and anointed by the church. So there is nothing wrong with visions held in unity with Gods word and His people.

Benny Hinn travelled to the 3rd heaven and spoke to prophets etc. He got rather upset when people criticised his sharing
"I place a curse on every man and every woman that will stretch his hand against this anointing.
I curse that man who dare to speak a word against this ministry" 30th November 2007.

It is always a little worrying when people take upon themselves the authority of God, and then people listen to them.
But pharaohs and kings have been doing this since the beginning of recorded history.

You would be amazed how upset they get when you ignore them or imply what they are saying is trampling on many good loving innocent people and leading many others into dangerous and difficult situations.

What is ironic, especially with Benny Hinn he now condemns the prosperity gospel he preached. But he has condemned a lot of his own behaviour only to repeat it, because what they say is there is no such things as bad publicity. Being a total hypocrite, saying one thing, doing another, sorting things out and then carrying on, is just what celebrities do......

Who is the bigger fool, the speaker who speaks lies or the person who believes them even when the same speaker later says he was lying.
It is a messed up world, but then if it earns you money and makes people feel happy, surely thats not a bad thing?

According to God its enough to be useless and be destroyed in the lake of fire.
 

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I have a dilemma. I had a vision, and this vision authenticates me as the gate keeper to heaven, because I have the higher way that others merely dreamed of, they spoke through a glass darkly I speak because I have seen and see daily.

Now imagine I have this experience, no lsd, no obvious reason but this thing happens. How do I know it is from God and I am not just going nuts?


No dilemma at all....to a true 'hearer' of the Spirit , His sheep know His voice and a stranger they will not follow.
1) There is only one gate keeper to heaven.... God's Spirit...Jesus The Door.
2) < "they spoke through a glass darkly I speak because I have seen and see daily." > No way--He that is perfect has not yet come...until then we are all one body, every joint supplying...and the ONLY mouth which speaks is His!
We follow no man.
Only in false cults would someones vision lead other people.
So no dilemma at all to a Follower.
 

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No dilemma at all. To a true 'hearer ' of the Spirit His sheep know His voice and a stranger they will not follow. 1) There is only one gate keeper . God's Spirit. 2) "they spoke through a glass darkly I speak because I have seen and see daily." He that is perfect has not yet come...until then we are one body, every joint supplying...and the ONLY mouth which speaks is His!
We follow no man.
Only in false cults would someones vision lead other people.

I agree. It just struck me about how these layered revelations have often worked out.
I have heard testimonies from individuals. They will say I came to Christ 50 years ago in this church.

That church though are legalists going to the pit, and should be closed down, exposed, isolated and executed because they are the real evil in the world today obscuring the true gospel message which these believers now have.

Ironically they claim to have come to Christ through the preaching of these legalist evil people.
They now explain they were saved but carnal, but now they are really alive and spiritual because of some new revelation.

Often this revelation has lain hidden for 2000 years but now this teacher or prophet has brought it to life.
More confusing still they were saved in this evil church and never lost their salvation when they fell away but were just confused.

Worse still all those around them and even the preacher was not a true believer, so never saved.
So logically they came to faith through unbelievers, and the very church that brought them to Christ should be destroyed.

Now if you want a con-job that destroys a believer and their origins by self destruction this must be it.
And these delusions and deceptions come from heavenly experiences. It is not a surprise they rely on lies and delusion to work because their source is not the living God and Jesus Christ or the Holy Spirit. God bless you
 

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God speaks to us in many ways, sometimes it is through signs, remember how the servant of Abraham asked the LORD for a sign as he was looking for a future wife (that is, Rebecca) for Issac? Other times God speaks to us through people. Also, your conscience will either convict you or approve you. The Holy Spirit also leads us, remember how Paul was heading North into regions of what is now called Turkey, and The Spirit forbade Paul. But the best way God speaks to us is through the Bible. The Word of God lays the foundation to the Christian living. The books of Corinthians are excellent books for babes (Born again Christians) in the Lord.
 
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You would be amazed how upset they get when you ignore them or imply what they are saying is trampling on many good loving innocent people and leading many others into dangerous and difficult situations.
I've seen this sufficiently to last a lifetime!

They can quickly turn on you, the veneer of holiness stripped away as the person inside lashes out. Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

Much love!
 

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I have a dilemma. I had a vision, and this vision authenticates me as the gate keeper to heaven, because I have the higher way that others merely dreamed of,...
I have never seen the word "gatekeeper" applied to people on this side of Heaven. If you are that far ahead of the curve and no one has received you as such, the best you can do is let it inform your prayers.

Are you sure that others are prepared to embrace what you see?
 
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I have never seen the word "gatekeeper" applied to people on this side of Heaven. If you are that far ahead of the curve and no one has received you as such, the best you can do is let it inform your prayers.

Are you sure that others are prepared to embrace what you see?
she was providing an example i think sabertooth, not a testimonial
 
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she was providing...
She...?
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How do you hear from God?
OP ^

* First by gathering information to my interest.
* Then by basically asking God for His input, typically by asking God to tell me, show me, set something in my path to reveal to me His (for lack of a better word) Opinion.
* Then patience...waiting.
* Go on about my business doing whatever.
* Maybe minutes, days, weeks, months...
I may be doing whatever and the answer appears.

I can't say it is audible, or a particular language, but a thought, (out of the blue so to speak), after having asked and not thought about it again, or having dwelled on the question trying to figure a logical answer.



Glory to God,
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I have never seen the word "gatekeeper" applied to people on this side of Heaven. If you are that far ahead of the curve and no one has received you as such, the best you can do is let it inform your prayers.

Are you sure that others are prepared to embrace what you see?

I am not someone who claims to have a special revelation, I was posing the question if I was and I had this experience how could I test its validity. There are plenty of people I have met who claim some fantastic experiences, out of body, going to the 3rd heaven, speaking to angels, having angels do things for them etc. Some sound plausible, some are just insane, others are somewhere in between. So when you meet guys like this what does one say?
 

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I am not someone who claims to have a special revelation, I was posing the question if I was and I had this experience how could I test its validity.
Your question is hypothetical & soulish. If God gives you a big revelation, He will give you the means to receive and vet it [2 Timothy 3:16-17]. The Holy Spirit is that thorough.

If you are uncertain, He will keep after you (without condemnation). I am reminded of God talking to young Samuel [1 Samuel 3:2-10].
 

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I am not someone who claims to have a special revelation, I was posing the question if I was and I had this experience how could I test its validity. There are plenty of people I have met who claim some fantastic experiences, out of body, going to the 3rd heaven, speaking to angels, having angels do things for them etc. Some sound plausible, some are just insane, others are somewhere in between. So when you meet guys like this what does one say?

Wow...I suppose would BY my reaction :)
 

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I am not someone who claims to have a special revelation, I was posing the question if I was and I had this experience how could I test its validity. There are plenty of people I have met who claim some fantastic experiences, out of body, going to the 3rd heaven, speaking to angels, having angels do things for them etc. Some sound plausible, some are just insane, others are somewhere in between. So when you meet guys like this what does one say?
He who says he knows, does not
imo
but i guess say it to yourself, or for the hearing of those with ears maybe
dunno there
 

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she was providing an example i think sabertooth, not a testimonial

She is for sure a HE. And you are right, I read his post tongue in cheek about being the gatekeeper etc ... :)
 
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Thinking about this a little more . . .

How is it that God speaks to me to show me what I need? I just know where to look.

Same thing happens with the Bible. I can ask Him where something is, or, more intriguing, where to find an answer to something I'm wondering about, and I'll know where to look.

So He simply puts the knowing there. No fanfare or fireworks, just the need met.

Much love!

When I ask Him, He leads me in the right direction or even causes my head to turn to the correct direction and I see the item that I am looking for. :D

And just for any doubters, He has led me over 10 times this week to find something and my workshop is a mess.

For example I asked the Holy Spirit to help me find a certain punch, I get up, walk over to my big rubber mallet, and it was sitting behind the mallet, I ask the Holy Spirit where is the Screw Driver, turn my head and see a metal shaft sticking out from underneath a pile of papers. This morning I asked Him to help me find my phone, He led me to the hallway and then to turn right, and it was sitting right there on the dining table.

Praise God for His guidance! :D
 
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Your question is hypothetical & soulish. If God gives you a big revelation, He will give you the means to receive and vet it [2 Timothy 3:16-17]. The Holy Spirit is that thorough.

If you are uncertain, He will keep after you (without condemnation). I am reminded of God talking to young Samuel [1 Samuel 3:2-10].

Funnily I have had this proposition put to me by different people, who found their authenticity not in scripture but in their revelation.
I am open to anything, as long as the people know I will test it with everything I know, and hold nothing back.

Most revelations are about demonizing a group and the justifying the new group as the solution. Once loyalty is shifted the individual is a bit high and dry if the new revelation is actually shot to pieces. The risk is ofcourse before this shift has taken place the demonisation does not work, and actually another picture of reality is put forward.

Coming to Jesus is similar, except the sinful world does not need demonizing, it is flawed and shot to pieces. And Jesus's solution is not unreasonable, it is actually the most healthy dynamic one could ever have, to learn to love care and support others around you.

And Jesus lets the believer discover at their pace in their way, which again is unusual, because most groups bombard one with love and attention and then if you try and leave with total loss and withdrawal and rejection that will occur and how nothing will work, because you need only the group to survive. Jesus warns of the consequences to our hearts, how we will dry up, become empty brittle and broken and end withered and unfruitful only useful for the fire if we start and then walk away.

Why would I not want Jesus and His way, and listen to another to distract me into some other agenda and approach which is dependant on the leader and their interpretation, when we have Jesus and the Holy Spirit to guide us every day of our lives. God bless you all.