Did Jesus claim to be God?

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Jesus is a quickening spirit that is omnipresent.

No, he told her explicitly that God is a Spirit...Him...Him...
If you are saying Jesus (Him...Him...) "is a quickening spirit that is omnipresent" made visible in the flesh, I will totally agree with you.

When Jesus said, John 4:10 “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water.” He was telling the Samaritan woman that, He, Jesus (Him...) was the living omnipresent God.
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Please call it what the correct translation is; Holy Spirit - NOT Ghost. God is not a spook.

The words "ghost" and "spirit" originally meant the same thing. In modern times we have come to apply the word "ghost" to the spirit of someone who has died, so modern translations correctly use the word "spirit".

In "A Christmas Carol" the three spirits who visit Scrooge are called ghosts even though they are not ghosts in the modern use of the term. This shows that the modern usage isn't very old.

I don't understand the issue here. Since we are all created in the image of God, we are all gods, "God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him;" Genesis 1:27

A photograph or a statue of a person can be said to be in his image but it isn't actually the person. The fact that we are created in God's image doesn't mean that we are gods.
 

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A photograph or a statue of a person can be said to be in his image but it isn't actually the person. The fact that we are created in God's image doesn't mean that we are gods.
This is why imo Jesus spoke of "My Father, and your father."

Jesus is God, while we are his adopted children, created in his image.
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If you are saying Jesus (Him...Him...) "is a quickening spirit that is omnipresent" made visible in the flesh, I will totally agree with you.

When Jesus said, John 4:10 “If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water.” He was telling the Samaritan woman that, He, Jesus (Him...) was the living omnipresent God.
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God is a Spirit according to Jesus.

Jesus also referred to God as "Him...Him..."as per someone other than himself.

Jesus being made a quickening spirit came a few years later...after resurrecting.
 

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GINOLJC, to all,
No, he told her explicitly that God is a Spirit...Him...Him...
first thanks for the reply, second, did you know, that as you said, "Jesus is a quickening spirit that is omnipresent", well, God is the ONLY omnipresent Spirit, see how you shoot your ownself in the foot. but better yet, Jesus, who is God is the fullness of his OWNself, (Isaiah 63:5) .... Colossians 2:9 "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." and to be sure that Jesus is this omnipresent Spirit, Luke 24:39 "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have." God is in his HOLY "TEMPLE", the one whom he, Jesus, raised up after 3 days and 3 nights..... :eek:

YES, in as you said Truther, "Him, him, him, lol, yes, him, the Lord Jesus. and not only is he omnipresent he's omnipotent meaning "ALL POWERFUL, scripture, Matthew 28:18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth."

Truther, you're a dime short, and a dollar late on who Jesus is fro your response. Jesus is the fullness of the Godhead, not half full, not 3/4 full, but all the way full.

Adam was made in the likeness of him that was to come(the 1st Adam was made in the image of the last Adam). Romans 5:14.
I have been saying this all the time, and he, JESUS, is the God to come in flesh, the same same one who made all things, (John 1:3). this is the "Him" that you ignorantly mis-understand in John 4:24a. Jesus is the HIM that is Spirit, which is the diversity of his "OWN"self, (Isaiah 63:5), in flesh. my, my, my, when will they ever learn?

so to you Truther, as you so eloquently put it... NO, you're in error. ....:rolleyes:

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God is a Spirit according to Jesus.

Jesus also referred to God as "Him...Him..."as per someone other than himself.

Jesus being made a quickening spirit came a few years later...after resurrecting.

"God is a Spirit according to Jesus." God is spirit, yes.

"Jesus also referred to God as "Him...Him..."as per someone other than himself." Father and Son are physically separate, while being One in the Spirit.

"Jesus being made a quickening spirit came a few years later...after resurrecting." Before the incarnation, Jesus was that quickening spirit. After the incarnation Jesus sent the Comforter to be with us, by order of God. (Himself)

Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are the One omnipresent God. Only the location is different. If God wanted to be present with us on earth, He had to become man. Physical appearance or none at all, makes no difference to the power of the Spirit which is God with us.
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GINOLJC, to all,

first thanks for the reply, second, did you know, that as you said, "Jesus is a quickening spirit that is omnipresent", well, God is the ONLY omnipresent Spirit, see how you shoot your ownself in the foot. but better yet, Jesus, who is God is the fullness of his OWNself, (Isaiah 63:5) .... Colossians 2:9 "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." and to be sure that Jesus is this omnipresent Spirit, Luke 24:39 "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have." God is in his HOLY "TEMPLE", the one whom he, Jesus, raised up after 3 days and 3 nights..... :eek:

YES, in as you said Truther, "Him, him, him, lol, yes, him, the Lord Jesus. and not only is he omnipresent he's omnipotent meaning "ALL POWERFUL, scripture, Matthew 28:18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth."

Truther, you're a dime short, and a dollar late on who Jesus is fro your response. Jesus is the fullness of the Godhead, not half full, not 3/4 full, but all the way full.


I have been saying this all the time, and he, JESUS, is the God to come in flesh, the same same one who made all things, (John 1:3). this is the "Him" that you ignorantly mis-understand in John 4:24a. Jesus is the HIM that is Spirit, which is the diversity of his "OWN"self, (Isaiah 63:5), in flesh. my, my, my, when will they ever learn?

so to you Truther, as you so eloquently put it... NO, you're in error. ....:rolleyes:

PICJAG.
To be specific. Jesus was made an omnipresent quickening spirit to fit all of what his God consists of in his spirit body per Col 2:9.

Also, this body can be here in America and China simultaneously.

Also, the light from heaven that knocked Paul off his horse was the same body.

In Rev 21, we see God lighting the entire, shadowless new heaven and earth THROUGH that body of Jesus.

Yes, Jesus is now everywhere at once.

After, and only after he was resurrected from the dead was he made this quickening spirit.

The quickening spirit was never killed.
 

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"God is a Spirit according to Jesus." God is spirit, yes.

"Jesus also referred to God as "Him...Him..."as per someone other than himself." Father and Son are physically separate, while being Spiritually One.

"Jesus being made a quickening spirit came a few years later...after resurrecting." Before the incarnation, Jesus was that quickening spirit. After the incarnation Jesus sent the Comforter to be with us, by order of God.

Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are the One omnipresent God with us. Only the location is different. If God wanted to be present with us on earth, He had to become man. Physical appearance or none at all, makes no difference to the power of the Spirit which is God with us.
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They were one per this....


Luke 4 King James Version (KJV)
4 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
 

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"Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are the One omnipresent God."


3=1?

My calculator does not work in that kind of math.
 

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"Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are the One omnipresent God."


3=1?

My calculator does not work in that kind of math.
Get a new calculator, with emphasis on "NEW"... :rolleyes:
1+1=1 one God "diversified".........

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They were one per this....


Luke 4 King James Version (KJV)
4 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
In Luke chapter 4 we see Jesus as a man being tempted AND we see him as GOD healing people and casting out demons.

Quite simply, Jesus is both Man and God. He is ONE.
 

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That is so silly. Millions of people are Father, Son, Spirit.
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I am a father, son and husband.

I am not 3 persons.

Mt human spirit is not a separate person from my flesh body.

I still don't get your point.
 

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In Luke chapter 4 we see Jesus as a man being tempted AND we see him as GOD healing people and casting out demons.

Quite simply, Jesus is both Man and God. He is ONE.
No, Jesus was filled with God.

God did not fill God with the Holy Ghost...He filled a man.(Luke 4:1)
 

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I am a father, son and husband.

I am not 3 persons.

Mt human spirit is not a separate person from my flesh body.

I still don't get your point.

So, 1 father x 1 son x 1 husband equals what?

Otherwise, if you did it your way: 1 father + 1 Son + 1 Husband make you three people.

If you want to put silly arguments forward please do, then we can all have a good laugh.
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Jesus also referred to God as "Him...Him..."as per someone other than himself.
sometimes when people speak words they have no clue as to what they are saying.

a classic example here, someone else other than himself, lets put that to the test by fire, meaning by bible, the word of God.
scripture, Acts 13:33 "God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee." or this Acts 2:22 "Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:"
Acts 2:23 "Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:"
Acts 2:24 "Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it."

here we have "GOD" who raised up Jesus the Lord correct. is this someone else who raised up Jesus, beside Jesus himself?. it clearly states "GOD" raised up Jesus correct? well let the fire test it.
John 2:18 "Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?"
John 2:19 "Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."
John 2:20 "Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?"
John 2:21 "But he spake of the temple of his body."

well now, ignorant men will say, "GOD" raise up Jesus, and God is someone else beside Jesus, when the bible clearly states he, JESUS, raised up his own "body". either JESUS is God or the bible is lying, God forbid. so who's lying? not the bible, but ingorant men who is the sons of their lying daddy the devil.

understand, I'm not aganist any one person, I'm just aganist their ignorance.

now if anyone who believe not that Jesus is God and don't believe he, JESUS, raised up his own body, please post your alternate answer .

PICJAG.
 

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Stan B said I don't understand the issue here. Since we are all created in the image of God, we are all gods, "God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him;" Genesis 1:27

A photograph or a statue of a person can be said to be in his image but it isn't actually the person. The fact that we are created in God's image doesn't mean that we are gods.

Picking one piece of the picture and ignoring it's context within Scripture is a rather flawed way of looking at truth, and is inconsistent with:

"I have said, Ye are gods [elohim]; and all of you are children of the most High." Psalm 82:6