The Destruction of American Freedom, Liberty, and Captialism

[Giuliano]

That's a very good point. Given how conservatism holds "personal responsibility" as a fundamental tenet, you'd think if their kids didn't turn out how they wanted they'd take personal responsibility for that.

They say one thing and do another. On one hand they talk about the sanctity of marriage; but then they will support a candidate with multiple marriages. Not that I am opposed to the idea of divorce and remarriage; but I do think when someone's been married three times, it says something about his character, his loyalty to people he vowed to be faithful too, and how he cannot figure out how to pick a his wife he can live with in peace so their children are raised in a loving, stable home. I don't condemn people who are divorced, but I don't consider them role models. After all, if a man will cheat on his wife who he knows and vowed to love, why would I expect him to keep promises made to me, someone he doesn't know?

I am stunned by the number of "serial monagamists" in the Republican Party.

 

[Enoch111]

I think the right thinking people are cowards

Correct. Now the UN wants to protect Antifa rather than condemn them as terrorists, while everyone look on.
UN Tweets Antifa Flag, ‘Express Concern’ Over the Violent Leftist Anarchists Being Branded ‘Terrorists’
UN Tweets Antifa Flag, 'Express Concern' Over the Violent Leftist Anarchists Being Branded 'Terrorists'

This should be reason enough for Trump to ask the UN to move from New York. But will he do it?

 

[Cristo Rei]

Correct. Now the UN wants to protect Antifa rather than condemn them as terrorists, while everyone look on.
UN Tweets Antifa Flag, ‘Express Concern’ Over the Violent Leftist Anarchists Being Branded ‘Terrorists’
UN Tweets Antifa Flag, 'Express Concern' Over the Violent Leftist Anarchists Being Branded 'Terrorists'

This should be reason enough for Trump to ask the UN to move from New York. But will he do it?

Trumps not going to do anything. No republican will say anything.
The left have taken off the mask and revealed themselves and no conservative or church has said anything.

I think it's all over for America and the wester allies, they have education and the media, most under 40yo are liberal, nearly all under 30yo are liberal, once gen z kids gets pumped into society it will be all over

 

[Cristo Rei]

The United Nations supports terrorist organization, Antifa.

Sorry for being so negative but is it even worth praying to God for such things on this world? Isn't it all part of Gods plan?
I tend to mostly pray for the salvation of my family these days...

 

[historyb]

The United Nations supports terrorist organization, Antifa.

Sorry for being so negative but is it even worth praying to God for such things on this world? Isn't it all part of Gods plan?
I tend to mostly pray for the salvation of my family these days...

Is God even around anymore, why is evil winning

 

[marks]

You know, it's very revealing how evangelical Christians can only speak about gays in such hateful terms, and mostly in regards to how they have sex. It's like you all can't stop thinking about and picturing gay sex.

That's not what I'm talking about. You appear to have rather benign and naive ideas about what homosexuality is. And so you attribute this hogwash to me. There is more to homosexuality that same-sex relations.

There's no hate here. But it destroys lives just the same as crack cocaine. And so I desire to protect people from this out of love for them. Same Sex Attraction Disorder is SSAD, not Gay.

And to answer your question....yes, I am fine with public schools teaching students that gay people exist and deserve to be treated just like any other group of people.

No, not so easy. We're not talking about a textbook education, we're talking about whether society should support and approve the homosexuality of the oh so very few as if it had the same appropriateness as heterosexuality.

How do you feel about sending your children off walking to school down a street lined with crack heads? That's the sort of education I'm talking about.

I know that the evangelical view is that if the schools mention the subject at all, they should teach students that gays are demonically-possessed disease-ridden pedophiles who are always on the prowl for children to steal and if we let them live openly it will lead to the collapse of western civilization.....

You know this, do you? You must be the only one!

Demonizing those who disagree with you has nothing to do with honest and intellectual debate.

....but your hate is your own problem. Society has turned against you and your bigotry, and it won't be long before you'll find yourself relegated to the same table as Stranger and his buddies in the hoods.

"My hate" is your fiction. You seem think that my position against the behavior somehow translates into hatred for others. Maybe that's how your mind works, but you shouldn't project that on me and just keep going on as if it were true. You're just talking to yourself.

 

[Avalon1]

The bully is gone, the mods banned him.

 

[Waiting on him]

Really? Where?


Do you understand the difference between having laws that "regulate public behavior" and having laws that "regulate public behavior based on the Christian religion"?


This is what makes you a bigot. You can't talk about LGBTQs as people, you can only speak of them as equivalent to pedophiles.


If you're going to be a bigot, at least own it.

What about you bigotry towards Christians. Is this something to be overlooked? Or can you not see it?

 

[Waiting on him]

The bully is gone, the mods banned him.

Ah, didn't see your post, I hate they banned him. He need to see that he also is biased.

 

[Cristo Rei]

Is God even around anymore, why is evil winning

My friend i often ask myself the same thing. I wish I knew.
We know God created the earth but we also know that Satan is the prince of this world.

That's why im not sure this world really means much compared to eternity.
I think all we can do is win our personal war with the evil one.

 

[Cristo Rei]

What about you bigotry towards Christians. Is this something to be overlooked? Or can you not see it?

The mods have set him free, they liberated him from the oppression of Christianity

 

[Rita]

The mods have set him free, they liberated him from the oppression of Christianity

There is probably more truth In that statement than you realise - I tend to read more posts and threads than I post to and to be honest if that is how you all witness to a non believer that has opposing views to you then I am amazed that anyone ever sees good in Christianity.
And as for the many people that simply read the posts that may have different views - many of you accused him of bigotry but by definition ‘ intolerance towards those who hold differing opinions from oneself ‘ , I would say that a bit of self examination might not go amiss.
One thing many Christians forget is that without the Holy Spirit in our lives and views would be different. God gave HIS people the word of God , to teach US. He gave us the Good news of the Gospel to preach - not too become judge and jury over the rest of the world who doesn’t agree.
Just saying !!
No doubt I will come under attack for saying the above.
Have a great sabbath - at least it won’t be taken up with arguing with a non believer.
Rita

 

[Rita]

Is God even around anymore, why is evil winning

My friend i often ask myself the same thing. I wish I knew.
We know God created the earth but we also know that Satan is the prince of this world.

That's why im not sure this world really means much compared to eternity.
I think all we can do is win our personal war with the evil one.

I find it sad that you ask if God is around anymore - just because evil is active in no way does it mean that ‘ God has left the building ‘ It means you are concentrating on the wrong things, the negatives. God is unchanging , where in revelation does it say that the Lord will leave ?
What does it say about your faith in Him , your trust , your focus - the news doesn’t comment on the good things that are happening in people’s lives, through all the darkness, but I know for sure that the Lords never stops working - revelation is to give us hope that despite all that we face , God is still in control and working x
Rita

 

[Cristo Rei]

There is probably more truth In that statement than you realise - I tend to read more posts and threads than I post to and to be honest if that is how you all witness to a non believer that has opposing views to you then I am amazed that anyone ever sees good in Christianity.
And as for the many people that simply read the posts that may have different views - many of you accused him of bigotry but by definition ‘ intolerance towards those who hold differing opinions from oneself ‘ , I would say that a bit of self examination might not go amiss.
One thing many Christians forget is that without the Holy Spirit in our lives and views would be different. God gave HIS people the word of God , to teach US. He gave us the Good news of the Gospel to preach - not too become judge and jury over the rest of the world who doesn’t agree.
Just saying !!
No doubt I will come under attack for saying the above.
Have a great sabbath - at least it won’t be taken up with arguing with a non believer.
Rita

How then should one respond to someone who is labelling you a bigot or a homophobe for holding Christian views???
How should you respond to someone who is attacking, Christianity, attacking our Lord???

It's easy to criticize in hindsight from a distance without even getting involved in the discussion.
But even now in reflection what is the best response? Defend Christ? Don't engage? I don't really know

 

[Rita]

How then should one respond to someone who is labelling you a bigot or a homophobe for holding Christian views???
How should you respond to someone who is attacking, Christianity, attacking our Lord???

It's easy to criticize in hindsight from a distance without even getting involved in the discussion.
But even now in reflection what is the best response? Defend Christ? Don't engage? I don't really know

Yes, I get the point about ‘ from a distance without getting involved ‘ - your right. In many respects I have held back for many reasons, but one was because it seemed to be reaction following reaction at times. My response earlier was more to the joyful way you and others expressed that ‘ the bigot had been banned ‘
When in reality bigotry fell on both sides, which is why I mentioned the meaning of the word.
You know in all of scripture it’s never mentioned that the instructions that were laid down were to be given to ‘ other cultures ‘ and that’s where I have an issue at times with how Christians seem to think that ALL of society should follow the biblical principles. We may have adopted many of them within society, but that was by choice not command. Of course following what the Lord conveys brings straight paths, but how many of us followed many of them before we came to faith. The Lord needs to bring someone to faith in order to see many things in new light. We are meant to be leading people to that light.
Are we not suppose to live differently so that others would be attracted to what we have, drawn to Gods people as they set an example of a different way to live. You see I see ‘ God hates homosexual ‘ in a different way - it’s something that The Lord showed me when I went through my divorce - well scripture relays God hates divorce as well - and that’s been quoted to me a number of times. However I know the pain and rippling effects that divorce has in so many ways. I had to come to terms with all the wrongs in both my life and my ex’s life in order to heal. The divorce was the result of all of that. God wants to protect people from that pain and ripples. That applies to all sin, and often it’s sin of others that leads to some of the things that we deal with within our society. However that healing, that acknowledgement only happened because I was open to the Holy Spirit and saw what was there. I didn’t see it when I was married, didn’t see it for at least two years after the divorce.
Please do not get me wrong, I do not agree with all that is happening with LGBT, but I equally don’t agree with everything that is happening with all the sexual labels and feminists and all that is happening within society at the moment.
Of course we have a right to defend what ‘ WE ‘ believe is right for ‘ OUR ‘ lives, but surely there needs to balance with regards to what we demand from someone of no faith, no relationship with Jesus.
Brake light posted a good word earlier - about Zacchaeus and how he was hated and ridiculed, joked about because he was one of the lowest in society because of what he did - in the post it states ‘ But Jesus was different ‘...... he came alongside Zacchaeus. We know from that moment on he changed. Why do we expect others to just change without encountering the Lord first.
It’s not by our own efforts that we change, it’s because the Lord works in our lives.
Rita

 

[Waiting on him]

Yes, I get the point about ‘ from a distance without getting involved ‘ - your right. In many respects I have held back for many reasons, but one was because it seemed to be reaction following reaction at times. My response earlier was more to the joyful way you and others expressed that ‘ the bigot had been banned ‘
When in reality bigotry fell on both sides, which is why I mentioned the meaning of the word.
You know in all of scripture it’s never mentioned that the instructions that were laid down were to be given to ‘ other cultures ‘ and that’s where I have an issue at times with how Christians seem to think that ALL of society should follow the biblical principles. We may have adopted many of them within society, but that was by choice not command. Of course following what the Lord conveys brings straight paths, but how many of us followed many of them before we came to faith. The Lord needs to bring someone to faith in order to see many things in new light. We are meant to be leading people to that light.
Are we not suppose to live differently so that others would be attracted to what we have, drawn to Gods people as they set an example of a different way to live. You see I see ‘ God hates homosexual ‘ in a different way - it’s something that The Lord showed me when I went through my divorce - well scripture relays God hates divorce as well - and that’s been quoted to me a number of times. However I know the pain and rippling effects that divorce has in so many ways. I had to come to terms with all the wrongs in both my life and my ex’s life in order to heal. The divorce was the result of all of that. God wants to protect people from that pain and ripples. That applies to all sin, and often it’s sin of others that leads to some of the things that we deal with within our society. However that healing, that acknowledgement only happened because I was open to the Holy Spirit and saw what was there. I didn’t see it when I was married, didn’t see it for at least two years after the divorce.
Please do not get me wrong, I do not agree with all that is happening with LGBT, but I equally don’t agree with everything that is happening with all the sexual labels and feminists and all that is happening within society at the moment.
Of course we have a right to defend what ‘ WE ‘ believe is right for ‘ OUR ‘ lives, but surely there needs to balance with regards to what we demand from someone of no faith, no relationship with Jesus.
Brake light posted a good word earlier - about Zacchaeus and how he was hated and ridiculed, joked about because he was one of the lowest in society because of what he did - in the post it states ‘ But Jesus was different ‘...... he came alongside Zacchaeus. We know from that moment on he changed. Why do we expect others to just change without encountering the Lord first.
It’s not by our own efforts that we change, it’s because the Lord works in our lives.
Rita

When in reality bigotry fell on both sides,

I don't see @marks as a bigot at all. Who are you referring to as a bigot?

 

[Rita]

I don't see @marks as a bigot at all. Who are you referring to as a bigot?

When did I mention @marks personally ?
The comment was to anyone who had an intolerance to Justadude because he had differing opinions - if you go through the differing threads there were many who were not particular pleasant in how they responded, but didn’t like it when he responded in the same way.
My comment was to give food for thought - it’s up to the individual whether they consider my words or not, I felt a conviction to say what I said.
Rita

 

[Waiting on him]

When did I mention @marks personally ?
The comment was to anyone who had an intolerance to Justadude because he had differing opinions - if you go through the differing threads there were many who were not particular pleasant in how they responded, but didn’t like it when he responded in the same way.
My comment was to give food for thought - it’s up to the individual whether they consider my words or not, I felt a conviction to say what I said.
Rita

Maybe your right, maybe Christians in America should be more tolerable, just maybe that would encourage this citizens of this country to live for Christ?
Does this seem to be the case where you live, is the cry ( don't repent)?

 

[Waiting on him]

The mods have set him free, they liberated him from the oppression of Christianity

Does this imply he'll no longer be persuaded to repent?

 

[Rita]

Maybe your right, maybe Christians in America should be more tolerable, just maybe that would encourage this citizens of this country to live for Christ?
Does this seem to be the case where you live, is the cry ( don't repent)?

If you want to interpret my words in that way go right ahead- but it means you have not heard what I was saying. Maybe the Holy Spirit will enlighten you at some stage.
Rita