So what's the future for the USA?

[Davy]

Why try to change the subject?

Do I need to remind you that Trump is the President? Not a dime gets spent unless he signs the spending bill Congress sends him. Chatter all you want about Trotsky -- it doesn't change today's facts. He was bankrupting the country before the coronavirus hit, and it's worse now. If strong and appropriate action isn't taken soon, China's currency may replace the US dollar as the preferred currency for international trade while Trump tweets away.

My post wasn't even addressed to you, now was it? No, it wasn't. It was addressed to @Behold.

Oh, the link to Trotsky leaving New York with $10,000 U.S. is a solid... part of the subject, just as what tax-exempt foundations like the Rockefeller, Ford, and Carnegie foundations were discovered supporting by the 1950's Reece Committee is also (also called the Cox Committee).

You clearly do not understand what the U.S. monetary policy under the Federal Reserve is about! The U.S. money supply cannot exist without debt! The U.S. Treasury Note is a DEBT note, a promissory note. It is not backed by anything, since Nixon and the international banking elites took the U.S. completely off the gold standard in the 1970's. (Or maybe you do know something about this, but like to hide that you know?)

Therefore, on a DEBT based fiat currency system we have today, not backed by any silver or gold as before, like the New York bankers and their politicians created with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, it is IMPOSSIBLE to pay off the national debt, because under 'their' system the creation of money begins AS DEBT PAPER! Go look it up, the Federal Reserve will provide you the language to understand it!

 

[Davy]

Davy, I just pointed out the prophecies that refer to America. I don't 'hate' anybody, let alone an entire country!

There you go again, saying, "... I just pointed out the prophecies that refer to America...", which is just more baloney out of your mouth. The Revelation Babylon harlot has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! It is about JERUSALEM at the end of this world.

When the Antichrist comes to sit in Jerusalem as king of the world, he is going to be given power over ALL nations and peoples for a period of 42 months. You would know this if you had actually read the Revelation 13 chapter. But you instead like to post snippets of Scripture references which most often don't support your un-Biblical suppositions at all, using those postings as fodder, to try and fool others into thinking you know what your talking about, when you really don't know.

 

[Giuliano]

My post wasn't even addressed to you, now was it? No, it wasn't. It was addressed to @Behold.

This is a public forum. If you want a private conversation with Behold, why not use private messages?

Oh, the link to Trotsky leaving New York with $10,000 U.S. is a solid... part of the subject, just as what tax-exempt foundations like the Rockefeller, Ford, and Carnegie foundations were discovered supporting by the 1950's Reece Committee is also (also called the Cox Committee).

And how is something from seventy years ago relevant to today?

You clearly do not understand what the U.S. monetary policy under the Federal Reserve is about! The U.S. money supply cannot exist without debt! The U.S. Treasury Note is a DEBT note, a promissory note. It is not backed by anything, since Nixon and the international banking elites took the U.S. completely off the gold standard in the 1970's. (Or maybe you do know something about this, but like to hide that you know?)

You seem to be confusing the functions of the Federal Reserve system and US Treasury.

Therefore, on a DEBT based fiat currency system we have today, not backed by any silver or gold as before, like the New York bankers and their politicians created with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, it is IMPOSSIBLE to pay off the national debt, because under 'their' system the creation of money begins AS DEBT PAPER! Go look it up, the Federal Reserve will provide you the language to understand it!

You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

The Treasury Department could continue to print fiat currency for circulation without needing to be in debt itself and needing to issue bonds.

A deficit is what happens when the government spends more money than it takes in. The annual deficits get added to the accumulated national debt. The paper currency we use would work just fine without the huge national debt. It would work just as well as having numbers in a computer telling you how many dollars you can draw from your bank. None of that is based on gold, silver or even paper. A fiat currency is worth only what people think it's worth. There's the problem, too.

Continued high rates of spending is dumping trillions of "new invented" dollars into the economy. That can create problems. The last huge spending spree by the government did not work the way Congress and Trump hoped. They thought if lots of "new money" got dumped into the economy, people would spend more -- and if people spent more, that would help businesses stay afloat. It worked to a degree, in certain ways; but it did not solve a big problem which is that rich people weren't spending as much. They weren't flying as much, weren't going on cruises or out to fancy restaurants. They weren't buying as much. And then too, some people chose to start paying off their credit card debt. People took their stimulus checks and used them to reduce what they owed.

Story here: American credit card debt plunges during coronavirus pandemic

What can happen when a government continues to spend a lot more than it takes in can clearly be seen in countries like Venezuela, Zimbabwe, etc. I do remember our history too. Johnson spent a lot with his war on poverty and war in Vietnam at the same time. The value of the US dollar was affected. When Nixon became President, Europeans could still buy gold in the US at $35 an ounce. They had already broken away from the international agreement to keep currencies stable by staying on the gold standard. So they bought gold in the US at $35 and could sell it in Europe at a nice profit. It was creating a big drain on American gold reserves. It was, in effect, an attack on the US dollar too. That was mostly Charles de Gaulle behind it. France kept reducing its reserves of dollars and increasing its reserves of gold.

In case you haven't heard, both China and Russia have been increasing their gold reserves. China almost surely plans to "dethrone" the US dollar as the world's reserve currency.

The Dollar as a Global Reserve Currency - Is It The End?

There have been efforts by numerous countries (led by China and Russia) to dethrone the US Dollar as the world’s reserve currency. China has been reducing its exposure to the Dollar for a long time, and both China, as well as Russia, have been stocking up on gold in recent times.

Other countries are beginning to join the fray. Turkey, India, and Iran have begun to do a small amount of trading in other currencies. In early 2020, Pakistan joined China and Russia and decided to trade in local currencies as well.

 

[Giuliano]

TOTAL BALDERDASH! Those are paid professional 'opinionaters' who even by their OWN admittance in that video that they don't really know... what Trump actually meant!! But it's sure plain that Leftists like to throw in a bunch of ideas against Trump to try and make people believe he said it. And YES, Fox sometimes employs Leftist Democratic opinionists! Programs like that are really for the ignorant who don't really know what's going on and need someone else to think for them and suggest what opinion to have.

That was before Trum won the primaries. The current Press Secretary now pretending to be a loyal fan of Trump was very against him back then. Lots of "conservatives" were against Trump before he won the nomination. Then they rolled over and pretended they loved him.

I wouldn't blame commentators for being confused when Trump says crazy stuff. Who ever knows for sure what he means?

He's joking about loving loans. If you think he was serious about that, it only shows your bias with... the Leftist-Socialists view against Trump. It's simple, if he actually literally loved loans, he wouldn't be trying to help students get rid of their loan debts, now would he?!#@!?

I've no idea what "leftists-socialists" have to do with that clip. It speaks for itself.

His history shows he loves debt. Was he joking when he talked about the government pay back only a percent of what it owes -- the way companies do when they go bankrupt?

Hillary is funny. The big spenders throughout political history have been the Democrats! Nor do the Democrats like to give tax cuts, instead they like to RAISE AND CREATE MORE TAXES, and not just on American businesses, but on the American people!!! So her whole argument is a LIE from the start.

Which states are the richest and which are the poorest? You will find that, generally speaking, the poverty rate is lower in Democratic states than in Republican ones.

List of U.S. states and territories by poverty rate - Wikipedia

You can also look at each state to see how much it pays into the federal government and how much it gets back. The red states get more back than they pay in. The blue states pay in more than they get back. That's right: Republican states are a drain. They talk about reducing government spending; but they're the ones who benefit the most from it.

States that voted for Trump depend the most on ‘big government’

A new report from WalletHub confirms what we already suspected: The states that depend the most on “big gubmin”t are also the states that are are always whining the most about… “big gubmint.”

And, wouldn’t you know it, one of the worst offenders is Kentucky — the state represented in the Senate by Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, a Republican.

How about that? Do you think he’s going to mention it any time soon?

Kentucky ranks fifth in terms of overall dependence on government, WalletHub determined using data on federal spending in each state, the share of households on welfare, the number of government workers and the total tax burden as a share of income.. No. 1 was Mississippi — no surprises there — followed by Alaska.

Conservative “red” states of the south and west make up eight of the 10 states with the highest dependency on government, and 19 of the top 25.

Oops.

Yes, isn’t it time to roll back government spending? You show us the way, West Virginia (the fourth-most dependent). And you, Arizona (No. 8) and South Carolina (No. 9).

Let’s crack down on all those “Cadillac queens.” Except it turns out the real offenders are the “Pickup princes” in the South and West.

Republicans know how to keep people poor and needing government handouts. How much good does reducing taxes do if you're already on government assistance? Wouldn't it better if you increased your income? Reducing taxes works well for the wealthy though.

 

[Nancy]

Thank you. You're the only one here with their eyes open.

Ahahaha! Not always brother...sometimes the sunglasses are on and I found your question easy because we are headed in that direction pretty much. Much prayer should be on our agenda for the strength and faith to persevere if we are still here when all that happens. Sure isn't going to be pretty !
In Him,
nancy

 

[Behold]

Therefore, on a DEBT based fiat currency system we have today, not backed by any silver or gold as before, like the New York bankers and their politicians created with the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, it is IMPOSSIBLE to pay off the national debt, because under 'their' system the creation of money begins AS DEBT PAPER! Go look it up, the Federal Reserve will provide you the language to understand it!

THE USA dollar is a "federal reserve note", it has no collateral, other then "how the world perceives it".
Its Paper money, alright.
The only thing that separates it from MONOPOLY (the Game) money, is how its perceived world wide as having value.
Once that perception is changed, the USA economy becomes the Titanic, and the world's economy will sink with it.
= In comes the Devil.

 

[Helen]

So, what is the future of the USA? Good question. What is the future of any country? <snip>
Every country is going to come under Satan's attempts to control and destroy. The eventual outcome will be determined by the Body of Christ and their response to the onslaught from Satan which is going to get worse, not better.
<snip >

e

It does seem that (many) Americans can only think about themselves ...they don’t see The Whole Ball Of Wax , or The Body Of Christ World Wide , But only themselves ...

To the rest of us who are not Americans it comes across glaringly over and over again.

I know they believe that USA is the centre of the universe ......but....

 

[Giuliano]

e

It does seem that (many) Americans can only think about themselves ...they don’t see The Whole Ball Of Wax , or The Body Of Christ World Wide , But only themselves ...

To the rest of us who are not Americans it comes across glaringly over and over again.

I know they believe that USA is the centre of the universe ......but....

It seems too that some Christians in the US think they're the only Christians who matter. As long as they get money and favors from the government, that's "religious freedom" to them, and they don't care that much about other people. Some do though, some do.

Christian groups say Trump has closed the door on persecuted Christian refugees

Despite public statements promoting religious freedom, the Trump administration has failed to provide a lifeline to persecuted Christian refugees and other religious minorities around the world, according to a report by two Christian advocacy groups.

The number of Christian refugees and other religious minorities allowed to enter the U.S. has dropped dramatically under President Donald Trump, according to the report by World Relief, a Christian humanitarian organization, and Open Doors USA, a non-profit that tracks religious freedom. . . .

Out of a maximum of 18,000 refugee admissions permitted this fiscal year, the administration specifically allocated 5,000 spots for applicants suffering religious persecution. As of June 30, the United States has admitted 3,564 refugees who have suffered religious persecution, according to State Department data.

Protestants who supported Trump did quite well getting money in the coronavirus crisis.

Trump’s Religious-Right Backers Get Millions in COVID-19 Relief | Right Wing Watch

• First Baptist Church of Dallas, Texas, led by Trump cheerleader Robert Jeffress, was among the megachurches listed as having received between $2 million and $5 million. Another was Guillermo Maldonado’s King Jesus International Ministry, which hosted an Evangelicals for Trump campaign launch last year.
• The American Center for Law and Justice, part of the lucrative legal empire of Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow and his family, got between $1 million and $2 million.
• The anti-LGBTQ advocates at Liberty Counsel received between $350,000 and $1 million.
• End Times pastor Jim Bakker’s Morningside Church got between $350,000 and $1 million.
• Televangelist Rick Joyner’s Morningstar Church got between $350,000 and $1 million.

Catholic dioceses across the country got over a billion dollars. Hmm, that should help the dioceses facing bankruptcy over molestation cases.

After lobbying, Catholic Church won $1.4 billion in coronavirus aid

The U.S. Roman Catholic Church used a special and unprecedented exemption from federal rules to amass at least $1.4 billion in taxpayer-backed coronavirus aid, with many millions going to dioceses that have paid huge settlements or sought bankruptcy protection because of clergy sexual abuse cover-ups.

The church's haul may have reached — or even exceeded — $3.5 billion, making a global religious institution with more than a billion followers among the biggest winners in the U.S. government's pandemic relief efforts, an Associated Press analysis of federal data released this week found.

Houses of worship and faith-based organizations that promote religious beliefs aren't usually eligible for money from the U.S. Small Business Administration. But as the economy plummeted and jobless rates soared, Congress let faith groups and other nonprofits tap into the Paycheck Protection Program, a $659 billion fund created to keep main street open and Americans employed.

It amazes me that people can think they're such fine American Christians while they ignore religious persecution in other countries.

 

[Davy]

This is a public forum. If you want a private conversation with Behold, why not use private messages?

My post on that first video was merely the phrase "Leftist propaganda", which it is. Your response was insults, in public. So don't expect any favors with my exposing that junk for what it is, which is simple propaganda against President Trump.

And how is something from seventy years ago relevant to today?

How is Trotsky and world Communism relevant for today? You should be embarrassed by just asking such a question as that. If you are ignorant of what Communist-Marxist philosophy is about, and the "mystery of iniquity" of Scripture, then no wonder you think those kind of videos aren't propaganda.

You seem to be confusing the functions of the Federal Reserve system and US Treasury.

No, I'm not confusing it, you simply don't understand the role of the New York bankers and the Federal Reserve in relation to the U.S. Treasury, and the creation of the Federal Reserve centralized banking system at the banker's Jekyll Island resort in Georgia.

--------------------
"Role in the history of the Federal Reserve
Jekyll Island was the location of a meeting in November 1910 in which draft legislation was written to create a central banking system for the United States. Following the Panic of 1907, banking reform became a major issue in the United States. Senator Nelson Aldrich (R-RI), chairman of the National Monetary Commission, went to Europe for almost two years to study that continent's banking systems. Upon his return, he brought together many of the country's leading financiers to Jekyll Island to discuss monetary policy and the banking system, drafting legislation which was introduced in Congress as the "Aldrich Plan". Some ideas from the Aldrich Plan were later incorporated into the Federal Reserve Act.

On the evening of November 22, 1910, Sen. Aldrich and A.P. Andrews (Assistant Secretary of the United States Treasury Department), Paul Warburg (a naturalized German representing Kuhn, Loeb & Co.), Frank A. Vanderlip (president of the National City Bank of New York), Henry P. Davison (senior partner of J. P. Morgan Company), Charles D. Norton (president of the Morgan-dominated First National Bank of New York), and Benjamin Strong (representing J. P. Morgan), together representing about one fourth the world's wealth at the time, left Hoboken, New Jersey on a train in complete secrecy, dropping their last names in favor of first names, or code names, so no one would discover who they all were. The excuse for such powerful representatives and wealth was to go on a duck hunting trip on Jekyll Island.

Forbes magazine founder Bertie Charles Forbes wrote several years later:

Picture a party of the nation's greatest bankers stealing out of New York on a private railroad car under cover of darkness, stealthily riding hundreds of miles South, embarking on a mysterious launch, sneaking onto an island deserted by all but a few servants, living there a full week under such rigid secrecy that the names of not one of them was once mentioned, lest the servants learn the identity and disclose to the world this strangest, most secret expedition in the history of American finance. I am not romancing; I am giving to the world, for the first time, the real story of how the famous Aldrich currency report, the foundation of our new currency system, was written ... The utmost secrecy was enjoined upon all. The public must not glean a hint of what was to be done. Senator Aldrich notified each one to go quietly into a private car of which the railroad had received orders to draw up on an unfrequented platform. Off the party set. New York's ubiquitous reporters had been foiled ... Nelson (Aldrich) had confided to Henry, Frank, Paul and Piatt that he was to keep them locked up at Jekyll Island, out of the rest of the world, until they had evolved and compiled a scientific currency system for the United States, the real birth of the present Federal Reserve System, the plan done on Jekyll Island in the conference with Paul, Frank and Henry ... Warburg is the link that binds the Aldrich system and the present system together. He more than any one man has made the system possible as a working reality.[7]"
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You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Oh, I think you well know that I do have a clue.

321gold: Gold and Economic Freedom by Alan Greenspan 1966

Alan Greenspan: Gold and Economic Freedom | The Cobden Centre

 

[Giuliano]

My post on that first video was merely the phrase "Leftist propaganda", which it is. Your response was insults, in public. So don't expect any favors with my exposing that junk for what it is, which is simple propaganda against President Trump.

Thanks for the chuckle. All you can say is it was "leftist propaganda." I could label any information I don't like propaganda too; but facts can be stubborn.

How is Trotsky and world Communism relevant for today? You should be embarrassed by just asking such a question as that. If you are ignorant of what Communist-Marxist philosophy is about, and the "mystery of iniquity" of Scripture, then no wonder you think those kind of videos aren't propaganda.

I've news for you. Trotsy is dead and doesn't pose a threat to anyone today.

No, I'm not confusing it, you simply don't understand the role of the New York bankers and the Federal Reserve in relation to the U.S. Treasury, and the creation of the Federal Reserve centralized banking system at the banker's Jekyll Island resort in Georgia.

--------------------
"Role in the history of the Federal Reserve
Jekyll Island was the location of a meeting in November 1910 in which draft legislation was written to create a central banking system for the United States. Following the Panic of 1907, banking reform became a major issue in the United States. Senator Nelson Aldrich (R-RI), chairman of the National Monetary Commission, went to Europe for almost two years to study that continent's banking systems. Upon his return, he brought together many of the country's leading financiers to Jekyll Island to discuss monetary policy and the banking system, drafting legislation which was introduced in Congress as the "Aldrich Plan". Some ideas from the Aldrich Plan were later incorporated into the Federal Reserve Act.

On the evening of November 22, 1910, Sen. Aldrich and A.P. Andrews (Assistant Secretary of the United States Treasury Department), Paul Warburg (a naturalized German representing Kuhn, Loeb & Co.), Frank A. Vanderlip (president of the National City Bank of New York), Henry P. Davison (senior partner of J. P. Morgan Company), Charles D. Norton (president of the Morgan-dominated First National Bank of New York), and Benjamin Strong (representing J. P. Morgan), together representing about one fourth the world's wealth at the time, left Hoboken, New Jersey on a train in complete secrecy, dropping their last names in favor of first names, or code names, so no one would discover who they all were. The excuse for such powerful representatives and wealth was to go on a duck hunting trip on Jekyll Island.

Forbes magazine founder Bertie Charles Forbes wrote several years later:

Picture a party of the nation's greatest bankers stealing out of New York on a private railroad car under cover of darkness, stealthily riding hundreds of miles South, embarking on a mysterious launch, sneaking onto an island deserted by all but a few servants, living there a full week under such rigid secrecy that the names of not one of them was once mentioned, lest the servants learn the identity and disclose to the world this strangest, most secret expedition in the history of American finance. I am not romancing; I am giving to the world, for the first time, the real story of how the famous Aldrich currency report, the foundation of our new currency system, was written ... The utmost secrecy was enjoined upon all. The public must not glean a hint of what was to be done. Senator Aldrich notified each one to go quietly into a private car of which the railroad had received orders to draw up on an unfrequented platform. Off the party set. New York's ubiquitous reporters had been foiled ... Nelson (Aldrich) had confided to Henry, Frank, Paul and Piatt that he was to keep them locked up at Jekyll Island, out of the rest of the world, until they had evolved and compiled a scientific currency system for the United States, the real birth of the present Federal Reserve System, the plan done on Jekyll Island in the conference with Paul, Frank and Henry ... Warburg is the link that binds the Aldrich system and the present system together. He more than any one man has made the system possible as a working reality.[7]"
--------------------------



Oh, I think you well know that I do have a clue.

321gold: Gold and Economic Freedom by Alan Greenspan 1966

Alan Greenspan: Gold and Economic Freedom | The Cobden Centre

We are not living in 1910. You seem to know that Trump is President, but I've no clue what else you know about current events. You are too stuck in stuff that happened a century ago.

 

[Davy]

That was before Trum won the primaries. The current Press Secretary now pretending to be a loyal fan of Trump was very against him back then. Lots of "conservatives" were against Trump before he won the nomination. Then they rolled over and pretended they loved him.

So it's a surprise to find out there are so-called conservatives that really are not conservatives? Like I showed from ex-FBI agent Cleon Skousen's 1958 book The Naked Communist, number 15 Soviet strategy point is to take over one or more political parties of the United States. (Op-Ed: The naked communist, 60 years later)

I wouldn't blame commentators for being confused when Trump says crazy stuff. Who ever knows for sure what he means?

That's just it, they don't know IF Trump said crazy stuff, and YOU don't know either! Thus their opinions, and yours, on what Trump said, is based on fairy tales.

I've no idea what "leftists-socialists" have to do with that clip. It speaks for itself.

Again your Socialist bias against Trump is showing! You admit the commentators didn't really know what Trump meant, and that you don't either, and then you say the video, "speaks for itself". And further, you claim such propaganda videos have nothing to do with Leftist-Socialists! What are you doing here on a Christian forum with pushing such rhetoric? You don't think the faithful in Christ here can't see how brainwashed your politics are, and in line with the Leftists?

Christianity has nothing... to do with Leftist-Socialism, yet here you are on this forum pushing Leftist propaganda videos that are against Trump, which even admit they don't understand what he meant, when Trump is simply making a joke! Their reaction to Trump is like someone who sees an ant on the ground and immediately they jump back as if it were a lion, trying to make something out of nothing. That is a sign of PROPAGANDA. Trump snubs his nose at the 'fake news' media and they don't like it, so they try to make up 'news' against Him, which only CONFIRMS they are "fake news"!

 

[pompadour]

e

It does seem that (many) Americans can only think about themselves ...they don’t see The Whole Ball Of Wax , or The Body Of Christ World Wide , But only themselves ...

To the rest of us who are not Americans it comes across glaringly over and over again.

I know they believe that USA is the centre of the universe ......but....

Jerusalem is the geographical center of the world, but that's a different subject.

But I for one do value a honest out side view and opinion. And I do unfortunately agree with your assessment.

 

[Giuliano]

So it's a surprise to find out there are so-called conservatives that really are not conservatives? Like I showed from ex-FBI agent Cleon Skousen's 1958 book The Naked Communist, number 15 Soviet strategy point is to take over one or more political parties of the United States. (Op-Ed: The naked communist, 60 years later)

Back in 1958?

That's just it, they don't know IF Trump said crazy stuff, and YOU don't know either! Thus their opinions, and yours, on what Trump said, is based on fairy tales.

Huh? Often we do know what Trump said. What he meant is in doubt, and people have their opinions.

Again your Socialist bias against Trump is showing! You admit the commentators didn't really know what Trump meant, and that you don't either, and then you say the video, "speaks for itself". And further, you claim such propaganda videos have nothing to do with Leftist-Socialists! What are you doing here on a Christian forum with pushing such rhetoric? You don't think the faithful in Christ here can't see how brainwashed your politics are, and in line with the Leftists?

Christianity has nothing... to do with Leftist-Socialism, yet here you are on this forum pushing Leftist propaganda videos that are against Trump, which even admit they don't understand what he meant, when Trump is simply making a joke! Their reaction to Trump is like someone who sees an ant on the ground and immediately they jump back as if it were a lion, trying to make something out of nothing. That is a sign of PROPAGANDA. Trump snubs his nose at the 'fake news' media and they don't like it, so they try to make up 'news' against Him, which only CONFIRMS they are "fake news"!

So anyone who is confused by some of the rubbish Trump says is a socialist?

Trump says some really dumb stuff; and when caught, he says he was only joking. Uh like asking if the US could sell Puerto Rico. The people in the conference didn't know what to say so no one said anything. They moved on to talk about other stuff.

His history shows he loves debt, loves spending other people's money; and he has done it while President. I was offended that he spent tax dollars to mail people letters with his signature on them about the stimulus checks. I threw mine away. Does he think he can buy my vote? He wasted tax dollars trying to make himself look better, hoping it would help him win in November.

 

[Davy]

THE USA dollar is a "federal reserve note", it has no collateral, other then "how the world perceives it".
Its Paper money, alright.
The only thing that separates it from MONOPOLY (the Game) money, is how its perceived world wide as having value.
Once that perception is changed, the USA economy becomes the Titanic, and the world's economy will sink with it.
= In comes the Devil.

Basically, today's monetary system is a setup for failure. The fiat system isn't only established in the U.S. though. The international banking elites have it centralized in most of Europe, and with the creation of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund, those systems are designed to bring other countries into support of the system.

If Americans really understood the Federal Reserve fiat debt money system, there would be more than riots overnight against the Federal Reserve (which by the way, is a private bank that pays taxes. It is not a legal part of U.S. Constitutional elected government).

 

[Davy]

Thanks for the chuckle. All you can say is it was "leftist propaganda." I could label any information I don't like propaganda too; but facts can be stubborn.

I've news for you. Trotsy is dead and doesn't pose a threat to anyone today.

We are not living in 1910. You seem to know that Trump is President, but I've no clue what else you know about current events. You are too stuck in stuff that happened a century ago.

Ha! I'm sure your next statement will be something like, "Communism is dead!" Sure...

I'm part American Indian, so your new name I dub... 'Heads In Sand'.

 

[Davy]

Back in 1958?



Huh? Often we do know what Trump said. What he meant is in doubt, and people have their opinions.

So anyone who is confused by some of the rubbish Trump says is a socialist?

Anyone who sides with the media propaganda 'trying'... to create consternation against Trump when they even admit... they don't know what his statements mean, are siding with the Leftist-Socialists propaganda that created lies to try to impeach him. Those also have no problem letting Leftists like Hillary Clinton off the hook for violating 'classified' information. A simple worker with a security clearance caught doing what she did would still be in prison today. So quit trying to make out like nothing is going on with the Leftist news media against conservatives, of which Trump is just one.

 

[Giuliano]

Ha! I'm sure your next statement will be something like, "Communism is dead!" Sure...

I'm part American Indian, so your new name I dub... 'Heads In Sand'.

Do you have anything relevant to say? What do I care if you're part American Indian? So am I.

I have money in the stock market now. What happened 50 or 100 years ago doesn't interest me that much. I'd be delighted if Trump could get the demand for oil back to where it used to be. I'd make money. I'd be delighted if he could figure out how to handle people behind on their mortgage payments -- that would make me money too since I own stock in a company that's struggling now since people have missed so many mortgage payments. Ha, ha, and you think I'm a socialist?

 

[Davy]

Do you have anything relevant to say? What do I care if you're part American Indian? So am I.

I have money in the stock market now. What happened 50 or 100 years ago doesn't interest me that much. I'd be delighted if Trump could get the demand for oil back to where it used to be. I'd make money. I'd be delighted if he could figure out how to handle people behind on their mortgage payments -- that would make me money too since I own stock in a company that's struggling now since people have missed so many mortgage payments. Ha, ha, and you think I'm a socialist?

Yes 'Heads In Sand', I do have more to say. But not to propagandists who side with Leftist media like yourself.

 

[Giuliano]

Anyone who sides with the media propaganda 'trying'... to create consternation against Trump when they even admit... they don't know what his statements mean, are siding with the Leftist-Socialists propaganda that created lies to try to impeach him. Those also have no problem letting Leftists like Hillary Clinton off the hook for violating 'classified' information. A simple worker with a security clearance caught doing what she did would still be in prison today. So quit trying to make out like nothing is going on with the Leftist news media against conservatives, of which Trump is just one.

You need to write the Attorney General about prosecuting Hillary. I have no power to do that. Your complaining to me won't help. You need to complain to the people who didn't prosecute her. That's the Trump administration in case you don't know.

 

[Giuliano]

Yes 'Heads In Sand', I do have more to say. But not to propagandists who side with Leftist media like yourself.

It's just as well. I prefer to talk with people who can teach me something instead of calling people names.