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Davy

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It seems too that some Christians in the US think they're the only Christians who matter. As long as they get money and favors from the government, that's "religious freedom" to them, and they don't care that much about other people. Some do though, some do.

Christian groups say Trump has closed the door on persecuted Christian refugees

Despite public statements promoting religious freedom, the Trump administration has failed to provide a lifeline to persecuted Christian refugees and other religious minorities around the world, according to a report by two Christian advocacy groups.


That is just another example of your supporting Leftist propaganda against President Trump.

That article above is by NBC News, and pushes fake news over Trump's tightening of U.S. borders from those who are trying to enter illegally, and for groups that pose a greater threat from COVID virus (like China). Legal entrance is still... being allowed, but is more strict because of the virus pandemic. The same Leftist propaganda by the mainstream news media griped when Trump began tightening U.S. borders at the start of his Presidency. No brainer, media outlets like NBC are no longer trustworthy news sources.

Groups like World Relief do NOT make U.S. foreign policy, World Relief as one of those complaining, is not an elected part of U.S. Government! And since organizations like World Relief (that is doing a lot of the complaining against Trump per that NBC article), has been involved in U.S. intelligence operations through USAID during the Vietnam War, it's not a far stretch to understand how they may have some in their organization that likes to play politics. And in this case, they are actually complaining against the majority of American citizens who DESIRE for the President of the U.S. to tighten our borders.
 

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You need to write the Attorney General about prosecuting Hillary. I have no power to do that. Your complaining to me won't help. You need to complain to the people who didn't prosecute her. That's the Trump administration in case you don't know.

No, it was the Obama administration that was responsible for prosecuting Hillary Clinton for not protecting classified information. It happened on Obama's watch, NOT Trump's. So there is more of your Leftist propaganda lies against Trump.
 

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That is just another example of your supporting Leftist propaganda against President Trump.

That article above is by NBC News, and pushes fake news over Trump's tightening of U.S. borders from those who are trying to enter illegally, and for groups that pose a greater threat from COVID virus (like China). Legal entrance is still... being allowed, but is more strict because of the virus pandemic. The same Leftist propaganda by the mainstream news media griped when Trump began tightening U.S. borders at the start of his Presidency. No brainer, media outlets like NBC are no longer trustworthy news sources.

Groups like World Relief do NOT make U.S. foreign policy, World Relief as one of those complaining, is not an elected part of U.S. Government! And since organizations like World Relief (that is doing a lot of the complaining against Trump per that NBC article), has been involved in U.S. intelligence operations through USAID during the Vietnam War, it's not a far stretch to understand how they may have some in their organization that likes to play politics. And in this case, they are actually complaining against the majority of American citizens who DESIRE for the President of the U.S. to tighten our borders.
Facts are facts. There were more Christian refugees admitted to the US under Obama than there has been under Trump. The Trump administration is making the decisions, and World Relief and Open Doors don't like what they see.

There were figures for 2019. That was before coronavirus hit, so why try to use that as an excuse? That's pathetic reasoning.
 

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No, it was the Obama administration that was responsible for prosecuting Hillary Clinton for not protecting classified information. It happened on Obama's watch, NOT Trump's. So there is more of your Leftist propaganda lies against Trump.
The Trump administration is allowed to prosecute people for what they did when Obama was President. Are you nuts?
 

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Basically, today's monetary system is a setup for failure.


All economies that are set up as "showing a profit, each new year".... are eventually going to fail.
This is because yearly "profit margin" economics can only be maintained by raising prices that are related to dealing with inflation that is driven by "profit margin" mania.
So eventually, all companies hit a situation where their products have so saturated the market and have continued to increase in Price over time, that the consumer buys the same from the smaller "NEW" company that is offering the same product for less.
All "new" companies are clones of Larger established companies. And because they are new, they have less overhead, less staff, less insurance to cover, so for a while they can make a lot of money. But eventually they become too large, too profit margin driven, and they become the same situation as the company they Cloned.
 

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So what would be the effect on voting if this were brought into effect? Don't forget, the Democrat party was birthed in the south, and the Vatican supported the south. Catholicism is more in line with fascism and socialism than republicanism. In fact, numerous newspaper articles over the decades in Catholic journals have railed against the constitution and bill of rights.
Proposed Democrat Platform Gives U.S. Asylum to the World's Migrants
The difference between Protestant nations and Catholic nations is so grave, you can draw a line. The purpose of flooding America and historically Protestant nations with migrants is all part of the "redistribution of wealth" that so dominate the philosophies of the occult and various Papal Bulls. Once bereft of their wealth, Protestants will be powerless to resist the advancement of the Catholic led ecumenical movement.
 

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Here's the deal, America is a Christian nation one of,now you may ask what is a Christian nation

A Ephraim and Manasseh

By Servant of God


Who are the commonwealth countries and how many are there?

The commonwealth countries are:

Ephraim = fruitful

and

the USA is Manasseh = forgetful

What is the Commonwealth?

An association of 53 nations united by ties to former British rule, the Commonwealth of Nations is a group aligned to create ongoing prosperity in these countries.

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/wha ... ealth.html


Genesis 48

verse 17 And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him; and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head.

verse 18 And Joseph said unto his father, Not so my father; for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.

verse 19 And his father refused, and said, “I know it, my son, I know it; he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great; but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.

verse 20 And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh; and he set Ephraim before Manasseh.

Comment on the world atlas link

The Commonwealth, or the Commonwealth of Nations, is a group of 53 states, all of which (except for two) were formerly part of the British Empire. The Commonwealth was created in the early 1900s when nations that were formerly a part of the British Empire began to secede. Its main goal was to ease the process of British decolonization. It was seen as a way of maintaining global unity through shared language, history, and culture despite growing independence and self-governance of former British colonies.

Overall, 2.328 billion people belong to the Commonwealth, representing one-third of the world population. Despite massive geographic and demographic differences, these countries are said to be united through their common values of democracy, human rights, and the rule of law.

The one-third should tell you something
 

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Until one understands whom Israel is,they will remain blind

TITLE: THE “LOST” TEN TRIBES OF ISRAEL...FOUND!
AUTHOR: Steven M. Collins
LENGTH: 440 pages

INTRODUCTION:

The ancient Israelites were composed of twelve tribes, which eventually split into two kingdoms. The largest kingdom, Israel, was composed of ten tribes. The smaller kingdom, Judah, was composed of two tribes. Judah was “Jewish,” Israel was not.

Many assume that the history of the ten tribes of Israel ended when Samaria, Israel’s capital, fell to the Assyrians in 721 B.C. Both the Bible and secular history assert otherwise. Approximately 100 years after Samaria’s fall, God told the prophet Jeremiah to proclaim a message to the ten tribes of Israel (Jeremiah 3:11-12). Interestingly, God told Jeremiah the Israelites lived not to the east (where the Assyrians carried the captives of Samaria) but “to the north” of Jerusalem and Palestine. After the time of Christ, the Jewish historian, Josephus, wrote that the ten tribes of Israel had become extremely numerous and he even revealed one of their national borders. Neither the Bible nor Josephus regarded the Israelites as ever being “lost.”

Many Christians believe we are living in “the latter days,” a prophetic time preceding the return of Jesus Christ (a view shared by the author). The Bible has many prophecies about the role of the ten tribes of Israel in the latter days, calling them “Israel” or “the house of Israel” while the Jews are called “Judah” or “the house of Judah.” The Bible contains many clues about the national traits of each tribe in the latter days. Because the Bible states the ten tribes of Israel will be prominent and identifiable in the latter days, those Christians who say the ten tribes of Israel disappeared or “died out” are unwittingly at odds with the Bible. This book examines the victories, defeats, empires and migrations of the ten tribes of Israel throughout history and offers identifications for each tribe in the modern world. This book has been professionally edited and reviewed for accuracy of Hebrew and Greek translations. It presents strong evidence that the Bible’s historical accounts and prophecies about the ten tribes of Israel are completely accurate. A brief discussion of each chapter’s content is listed below.

CHAPTER 1: “KING DAVID AND ISRAEL’S RISE TO GREATNESS”

King David’s rule and influence was much wider than commonly assumed. The Bible records that a major war occurred between David’s Israelites and an Assyrian-led coalition from Mesopotamia. The Bible asserts David won that war, and secular history confirms that the Assyrians and Mesopotamians were conquered by Semites from the west during that time. David became the greatest earthly king of his time. The Bible also records David accumulated copper items “beyond calculation” for the Temple of God. Where did this weight of copper come from? Interestingly, ancient copper mines in the North American Great Lakes region were worked to exhaustion during David’s time, but the copper was not used in the New World.

CHAPTER 2: “KING SOLOMON AND THE ’GOLDEN AGE’ OF ISRAEL”

Kings David and Solomon were allied to the Phoenicians who had massive fleets which sailed the globe. From Phoenician artifacts found in North America, it is now known that their ports-of-call included ancient America. The Bible asserts that Solomon had a global impact, and that ancient kings travelled to Israel to witness Solomon’s wealth and wisdom. The Bible records Solomon was the wisest man on earth, and secular history records that many inventions (including the forerunner of many modern alphabets) date to the Phoenician world in the time of Solomon. This book describes the global “golden age” under King Solomon.

CHAPTER 3: “ISRAEL — THE FORGOTTEN WORLD EMPIRE”

Via the widespread sailing routes of the Phoenicians, the Israelites established a large network of colonies. The Israelites were the “covenant” people, and they attached the Hebrew word for “covenant” (B-R-T) to some of their colonies (i.e. Britain).

As evidence of their global impact, the 10 Commandments (in ancient Hebrew) have been found written on rocks in New Mexico and on an unearthed tablet in Ohio. Also, the “Phoenicians” never called themselves by that name (it was a Greek term and the Greeks included Israel in their definition of “Phoenicia.”). The city-states of Sidon and Tyre were rather small but are credited with building a great empire from 1000-700 B.C. However, it was actually the much larger nation of Israel which was responsible for the “Phoenician” Empire. The Israelites, Tyrians and Sidonians were a related people who spoke dialects of the same language. After the division of the Hebrew tribes, it was virtually impossible to distinguish between the ten tribes and the “Phoenician” city-states as the ten tribes drifted away from Judah and became closely integrated with Tyre and Sidon.

CHAPTER 4: “ISRAELITE AND JEWISH MIGRATIONS FROM PALESTINE

The ten tribes migrated out of Palestine in several waves, some were voluntary and others involuntary. When Samaria fell, the Bible and Assyrian records agree that very few people were taken into captivity. Many Israelites escaped Assyria by relocating to one of Israel’s many colonies via the large Phoenician/Israelite navy. Secular history also records the main body of Israelites fled voluntarily to a new location, supplanting an old kingdom with a new Israelite one. The Bible implicitly confirms the above by declaring the Assyrians found the land and cities of Israel abandoned at the time of their final invasion. This chapter reveals where the Israelites migrated and when they did so.

CHAPTER 5: “CARTHAGE — THE COLONY THAT BECAME AN EMPIRE”

It has long been known that Carthage was founded by the “Phoenicians.” We know it as Carthage because of the Greco-Roman term for it. Its original name was Hebrew. Many historians have commented on the Hebrew nature of Carthage’s “Punic” language and customs. Carthage began as an Israelite colony, and received numerous Israelite refugees when Israel fell. The Greeks wrote that Carthage had a secret colony west of the Atlantic to which they sent large expeditions of colonists, and many Carthaginian inscriptions and artifacts have been found in North America. This chapter examines connections between the Carthaginians and the civilizations of ancient America (including the pyramids and human sacrifices of the Mayans). Carthage was very rich and almost destroyed Rome under Hannibal, but moral degeneracy led to its collapse.
 

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Continued

CHAPTER 6: “THE SCYTHIAN ’SACAE,’ — THE ASIAN SONS OF ISAAC”

“Scythian” was a term describing many people who lived in ancient Asia near the Black and Caspian Seas. Many Scythian tribes, the “Sacae,” were named after the biblical patriarch, Isaac. The Sacae appear in this region soon after the fall of the kingdom of Israel. The Greeks record the Black Sea Scythians were very civilized people who eschewed foreign religions and had such Hebrew customs as banning the consumption of pork. The Scythians renamed all the major rivers flowing into the Black Sea, giving them their modern names (Danube, Don, etc.) which preserve the name of the Israelite tribe of Dan. The Sacae lived directly north of Palestine (by the Black Sea) when the prophet Jeremiah was told to send a message to the ten tribes of Israel living “north” of Palestine. Few realize that Scythian tribes twice defeated large invasions by the Persian Empire and that they briefly conquered the entire Middle East from Egypt to Mesopotamia. The Greeks recorded much about the Scythians and regarded them as a major power in the ancient world, but modern history almost totally ignores them. Why?

CHAPTER 7: “AN ISRAELITE EMPIRE RISES IN ASIA”

In the 3rd and 2nd centuries B.C., the Parthians defeated the Seleucid Greek Empire founded by Alexander the Great, and established their own empire from the Euphrates River to the western borders of India. They were fellow tribesman of the Scythian Sacae, and several Parthian cities had Hebrew names. One Parthian city, Asaak, was named after Isaac. The name “Parthia” comes from Greek historians, who gave the name “Pretanic” to the Brittanic Isles. When Parthia’s “P” is also changed to a “B,” Parthia’s consonants become “B-R-TH,” the Hebrew word for “covenant.” This chapter lists much evidence that the Parthians were Asian descendants of the ten tribes of Israel.

CHAPTER 8: “PARTHIA — THE FORGOTTEN ANCIENT SUPERPOWER”

Greek and Roman historians regarded Parthia as an equal rival to the Roman Empire, an opinion shared by the famous British historian George Rawlinson. Parthia regularly defeated the Roman Empire in many wars. Many kings of the Sacae Scythians and Parthians bore the name of the royal bloodline of King David, fulfilling God’s promise in Jeremiah 33:17. Even as the Israelites had a hereditary priesthood (the Levites), so did the Parthians (the Magi). The Parthian empire had mounted “knights,” a feudal government system, and a bicameral “parliament” which elected their kings. In the apostolic period, many Parthians became Christians. In the 3rd century A.D. the Parthians were overthrown by the Persians and fled to the Caucasus Mountains and Black Sea region. Classical Greek and Roman writers preserved much information about the Parthians, but modern history texts almost completely ignore them. Why?

CHAPTER 9: “JESUS CHRIST — THE UNTOLD STORY”

Jesus Christ was born during a period of “detente” between Rome and Parthia in which travel and trade flourished. The “Magi” or “Wise Men” who visited Jesus were representatives of the Parthian ruling class who came offering gifts to Jesus, who was “born a king.” Why were Parthians interested in Jesus’ royal bloodline? What was the “star” which led the Magi to Jesus? How large was the delegation of Parthian royalty that visited Jesus Christ? Why did Rome permit Jesus Christ unlimited freedom of travel and speech during a time of often harsh repression of other Jews? Where did Jesus go during the “missing 18 years” of his life from age 12 to age 30? This chapter provides compelling (and surprising) answers for all the above questions, and offers new perspectives on Jesus’ life in light of the geopolitical context of Roman-Parthian relations.

CHAPTER 10: “ISRAELITE MIGRATIONS FROM ASIA AFTER PARTHIA’S FALL”

Vast numbers of Parthians fled to the Caucasus Mountains and Black Sea region after Parthia fell, joining their Scythian cousins who were called “Goths” by the Romans. These armies of refugees needed new homelands, and they sought them by invading the European and Balkan provinces of their historic enemy, the Roman Empire. While some tribes were pagan, others (under Alaric and Theodoric) were more civilized and Christianized than the Romans. As large numbers of refugees poured out of Asia into Europe in search of new homelands, they fought both the Romans and each other. These tribes of Goths, Anglo-Saxons, Germans, etc. overwhelmed Rome and provided the population bases for the modern nations of Europe. These new arrivals brought many aspects of Scythian/Parthian culture with them, including Parthia’s feudal system of government. This chapter examines the role of the descendants of the ten tribes of Israel in these massive migrations.

CHAPTER 11: “THE TRIBES OF ISRAEL IN THE MODERN WORLD”

After tracing the Israelites’ migrations throughout their history, the final chapter seeks to identify each of the tribes of Israel in the modern world. Because God promises that each tribe will be present in the latter days, they must be located among the nations of the modern world if the Bible is truly the infallible Word of God. Using many clues from biblical and secular history as well as a specific prophecy in Genesis 49 about the Israelite tribes in the latter days, specific identifications are offered for all the tribes of Israel in our contemporary world.

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Israel are NOT just Jew's
The fact is; the Jewish people are not Israelites at all. They separated from Israel in King Rehoboam's time, they are the House of Judah - Judahites. They usurped the name of Israel for their nation, which is Satan's fake Israel. Revelation 2:9

The other fact is; it is the faithful, born again Christian people, from every race, nation and language, who are God's true Israelites today. Galatians 6:14-16
 

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Those are just the little workers, not the actual ones those in Christ are to know about working the "mystery of iniquity" (2 Thessalonians 2:7.
Right. The actual ones are a cabal of billionaires -- primarily Jewish -- who profited from the American free enterprise and Capitalist system, but want to turn the US into a Communist stronghold. Soros is the leading culprit, but there are many others. And Gates tries to hide his Jewish heritage. They all serve Satan.
 

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Pope Francis is a Jesuit who swallowed Liberation Theology in Argentina and his outlook is Leftist/Globalist/NWO
Who do you think has the only religious mandate to lead the religious NWO?
Jesuits do whatever Jesuits believe is necessary to accomplish their purpose. Sometimes even fighting against one another in order to sustain a conflict. The means justified by the end. Their ultimate goal however has never changed. The destruction of Protestantism and global dominion. Yes, papal supremacy seems over. But you don't know or appreciate how powerful the Jesuits are in secret societies and globalist fronts and NGOs in the UN.

So the days of papal supremacy are over, and the godless Globalists are now in control of the majority of the Western world.



Catholic Church will become part of Mystery Babylon and all religions will become subservient to the one Satanist religion of the Antichrist in the future(Revelation 13).
That woman riding the beast in Revelation 18 is the antithesis of the woman of Revelation 12. Both represent a church... One true, one fallen and apostate, formerly faithful but today an enemy to God's people.
Catholicism clams the woman of Revelation 12. But the woman of Revelation 18 is clearly one in union with government/state power and the criteria prophecy offers in identification of that woman can only be met by the papacy.

The mistaken idea that the pope or papacy is the Antichrist is pure, unadulterated nonsense.
you are blind to the fact that there is not one aspect of prophecy regarding Antichrist that is not met by the papacy. Pure unadulterated nonsense is desperate hyperbole in the face of biblical evidence and your only defense. Your Jesuit futurist propaganda will come crashing down like the unstable house of cards it has always been. Being all future, there is not, cannot be one shred of evidence to sustain it.
 
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It does seem that (many) Americans can only think about themselves ...they don’t see The Whole Ball Of Wax , or The Body Of Christ World Wide , But only themselves ...

To the rest of us who are not Americans it comes across glaringly over and over again.

I know they believe that USA is the centre of the universe ......but....

Yes, I can understand that. I spent six weeks in the USA and to say the least it is impressive. Whilst there I corrected one mistake which was they say everything is big in Texas. I said the truth is everything is big in America. One big thing that was noticeable was their generosity. I was invited to everything and was not allowed to pay for anything.

Seems that the enemy has crept up on them and caught them napping.
 

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Your Jesuit futurist propaganda will come crashing down like the unstable house of cards it has always been.
This is hilarious. One does not need the Jesuits to teach Christians that a multitude of prophecies are to be fulfilled in the future. Including the prophecies pertaining to the Antichrist.
 

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It's written,there will be a one world government,to try an stop it would go against the plan of God.We need to be prepared for it.

The deadly wound is what this one world system will receive,satan as Christ will heal that wound ,thus it shall go from government to a one world religious system.

It's imperative that you understand that this religious will be ran by super natural beings ,ie ,satan and his angels the 10 kings from Daniel

Only a Christian can be deceived therefore going from a virgin waiting on her Husband(Christ)to a whore as she will sleep with another.

That's why it is written

Revelation 18:4 "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."

Now back to the fate of America

Russia will attack us from Alaska two battles will happen at the same time America and the middle east,God will fight both

Revelation 16:21 "And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great."

This is the destruction physically of Satan's crowd at Megiddo, and it is God who will destroy them with hail stones weighing about 180 pounds.

Ezekiel 38 will give you all the details ,if you may have trouble understanding it,may I suggest the below

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