Trump using the Bible as a prop...

[Giuliano]

Fake News.

Just like that. If someone disagrees with what you want to believe, you say, "Fake News" and that's supposed to end the conversation? Let me guess: You have been in Texas and Arizona and know for a fact that's not true. Boy was I wrong: I had been hoping for an intelligent conversation.

Ever hear of logic and the argumentum ad hominem fallacy? Oh never mind! I give up on you and trying to engage you in a meaningful way. I think you're out of touch with reality.

 

[CadyandZoe]

Just like that. If someone disagrees with what you want to believe, you say, "Fake News" and that's supposed to end the conversation? Let me guess: You have been in Texas and Arizona and know for a fact that's not true. Boy was I wrong: I had been hoping for an intelligent conversation.

Ever hear of logic and the argumentum ad hominem fallacy? Oh never mind! I give up on you and trying to engage you in a meaningful way. I think you're out of touch with reality.

I know about ad hominem. It means "to the man", which is an argument that attacks the man rather than his argument. I'm uncertain how this applies to me.

I told you it was fake news because I know it to be fake news. The freezer trucks are a trick they used before. It was a ruse then and it's a ruse now. You want to know the truth? The freezer trucks were hired as a precaution, just in case the morgue got full. The morgue did NOT fill up. But this didn't stop the ministry of truth from reporting that the morgue had an overflow of dead and that the freezer trucks were needed to store all the bodies. This is a lie.

Do you know how many deaths in these states were attributed to Covid-19? I'm talking about Covid-19 deaths, not influenza deaths, not influenza like deaths, not pneumonia deaths suspected of being associated with Covid-19. No. Find out how many deaths are actually attributed to Covid-19.

Look up the population size of Phoenix Arizona. You would not believe it unless you lived there. Phoenix has a population of over 2 million people. A city that size has plenty of morgue space. It would take a very large natural disaster before freezer trucks would be needed. Don't listen to the Politicians. Listen to the people who actually work in these locations. While the mayor of Phoenix is attempting to frighten the public with her "urgent" message to the governor, perhaps seeking more funding for her city, the morgues tell a different story.

""Abrazo hospitals currently have adequate morgue space. The state has requested that hospitals implement their emergency plans. Part of activating our plan includes the ability to handle overflow morgue capacity if needed. Abrazo has taken a proactive approach by ordering refrigerated storage in the event it may be needed during a surge of COVID patients. At this point it is not needed. We do agree with the Mayor’s points around promoting awareness around masking, continuing to practice social distancing and seeking medical care in the event of an emergency need."

The freezer trucks are empty. I'm trying to convince you but you aren't listening. Why should I continue?

 

[Giuliano]

I know about ad hominem. It means "to the man", which is an argument that attacks the man rather than his argument. I'm uncertain how this applies to me.

Dismissing a source as "fake news" with no evidence put forth is an ad hominem attack.

I told you it was fake news because I know it to be fake news. The freezer trucks are a trick they used before. It was a ruse then and it's a ruse now. You want to know the truth? The freezer trucks were hired as a precaution, just in case the morgue got full. The morgue did NOT fill up. But this didn't stop the ministry of truth from reporting that the morgue had an overflow of dead and that the freezer trucks were needed to store all the bodies. This is a lie.

Do you know how many deaths in these states were attributed to Covid-19? I'm talking about Covid-19 deaths, not influenza deaths, not influenza like deaths, not pneumonia deaths suspected of being associated with Covid-19. No. Find out how many deaths are actually attributed to Covid-19.

Look up the population size of Phoenix Arizona. You would not believe it unless you lived there. Phoenix has a population of over 2 million people. A city that size has plenty of morgue space. It would take a very large natural disaster before freezer trucks would be needed. Don't listen to the Politicians. Listen to the people who actually work in these locations. While the mayor of Phoenix is attempting to frighten the public with her "urgent" message to the governor, perhaps seeking more funding for her city, the morgues tell a different story.

""Abrazo hospitals currently have adequate morgue space. The state has requested that hospitals implement their emergency plans. Part of activating our plan includes the ability to handle overflow morgue capacity if needed. Abrazo has taken a proactive approach by ordering refrigerated storage in the event it may be needed during a surge of COVID patients. At this point it is not needed. We do agree with the Mayor’s points around promoting awareness around masking, continuing to practice social distancing and seeking medical care in the event of an emergency need."

The freezer trucks are empty. I'm trying to convince you but you aren't listening. Why should I continue?

IThe story said Phoenix hospitals currently have adequate morgue space. They need to have a plan in case they run out. That's why they ordered the refrigerator trucks. Why would they do that if the whole coronavirus thing is a hoax?

Brooklyn is a pretty big city too. (Look up the population, ha.) They did have to use refrigerated trucks there, or do you think that was a hoax?

https://nypost.com/2020/05/04/nyc-storing-bodies-inside-refrigerated-trucks-in-brooklyn-parking-lot/

The city is storing dead bodies in refrigerated trucks set up in a Brooklyn parking lot as it grapples with a growing number of corpses amid the coronavirus pandemic.

The trailers stretched from 36th to 39th streets along Second Avenue in Sunset Park on Monday.

City Hall acknowledged that the trucks are part of a fleet being used for the long-term storage of dead bodies. As of Monday, 30 percent of the trucks were filled.

“In Sunset Park, close to where I live, there are now 27 refrigeration trucks. The scale of this unfathomable,” tweeted Josh Begley, who lives in the neighborhood.

The Medical Examiner’s Office told Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams it is setting up a location at a pier by 39th Street to “store bodies.”

 

[kcnalp]

Anybody believe the media or politicians? lol

 

[CadyandZoe]

Dismissing a source as "fake news" with no evidence put forth is an ad hominem attack.

What person did I attack?

The story said Phoenix hospitals currently have adequate morgue space.

See, you are rationalizing and not allowing the truth to penetrate your defenses.

They need to have a plan in case they run out. That's why they ordered the refrigerator trucks.

The state, wisely, has a plan to deal with overflow. But don't miss the point here. The plan was activated as a precaution, but the news reported this as as a fate accompli. See? What is reported is not what is true. For this reason, we say that although the illness is real, the actual impact is a hoax perpetrated by the so-called press.

They did have to use refrigerated trucks there, or do you think that was a hoax?

Yes. I won't believe it until they show the bodies in the trucks.

 

[Giuliano]

What person did I attack?

You were saying the reporter who wrote that story was inventing things. You were not discussing events. Instead you wanted to discuss the source. . .without delving into the reliability or unreliability of the source.

See, you are rationalizing and not allowing the truth to penetrate your defenses.

I think that's what you're doing. I did not say Phoenix had run out of space in their morgues. The article did not say they had.

The state, wisely, has a plan to deal with overflow. But don't miss the point here. The plan was activated as a precaution, but the news reported this as as a fate accompli. See? What is reported is not what is true. For this reason, we say that although the illness is real, the actual impact is a hoax perpetrated by the so-called press.

You read the article or at least part of it since you quoted from it. You quoted the part that said Phoenix "currently" had enough space in their morgues. Read it again:

"Abrazo hospitals currently have adequate morgue space. The state has requested that hospitals implement their emergency plans. Part of activating our plan includes the ability to handle overflow morgue capacity if needed. Abrazo has taken a proactive approach by ordering refrigerated storage in the event it may be needed during a surge of COVID patients," the spokesperson said.

The news article did not report it as a fait accompli that Phoenix had run out of space in their morgues. It said they had not. You need to get a grip on yourself. You appear to have trouble understanding what you read.

Yes. I won't believe it until they show the bodies in the trucks.

One hospital was also using a tent.

There are limits to what the news in print can publish and on what television can air. If they reported refrigerated trucks in New York, there are people in New York who would know if it was a lie. We would hear from them.

Similarly if there are no problems in Texas and Arizona, there would be people there who would know at once if news media who fake news. There are limits to the lies anyone can tell and get away with.

 

[kcnalp]

Only God knows what has been hidden. Judgment Day will be SHOCKING!

 

[CadyandZoe]

You were saying the reporter who wrote that story was inventing things. You were not discussing events. Instead you wanted to discuss the source. . .without delving into the reliability or unreliability of the source.

I think that's what you're doing. I did not say Phoenix had run out of space in their morgues. The article did not say they had.

You read the article or at least part of it since you quoted from it. You quoted the part that said Phoenix "currently" had enough space in their morgues. Read it again:

"Abrazo hospitals currently have adequate morgue space. The state has requested that hospitals implement their emergency plans. Part of activating our plan includes the ability to handle overflow morgue capacity if needed. Abrazo has taken a proactive approach by ordering refrigerated storage in the event it may be needed during a surge of COVID patients," the spokesperson said.

The news article did not report it as a fait accompli that Phoenix had run out of space in their morgues. It said they had not. You need to get a grip on yourself. You appear to have trouble understanding what you read.

Yes. I won't believe it until they show the bodies in the trucks.

One hospital was also using a tent.

There are limits to what the news in print can publish and on what television can air. If they reported refrigerated trucks in New York, there are people in New York who would know if it was a lie. We would hear from them.

Similarly if there are no problems in Texas and Arizona, there would be people there who would know at once if news media who fake news. There are limits to the lies anyone can tell and get away with.

Listen,
All I can say is to you is this. Don't accept everything you read or hear at face value.

Deceiving the Public

 

[CadyandZoe]

Everyone wore masks during the 1918 flu pandemic. They were useless.

 

[Giuliano]

Texas is using the refrigerated trucks now.

US coronavirus: Arizona and Texas counties hit hard by coronavirus bring in refrigerated trucks as morgues fill up - CNN

In Texas, the city of San Antonio and Bexar County have secured several refrigerated trailers to store bodies until they can be released to funeral homes, Mario Martinez, Metro Health Assistant Director, said in a video interview released by the city. He said that they currently have two in operation and another three will be operational by the end of the week.

Cameron and Hidalgo counties in Texas are sharing a large refrigerated trailer to store bodies of coronavirus patients because of a lack of space at the morgues.

 

[kcnalp]

The Left wing media is worse than "fake news". They are AntiChrists!

 

[CadyandZoe]

Texas is using the refrigerated trucks now.

US coronavirus: Arizona and Texas counties hit hard by coronavirus bring in refrigerated trucks as morgues fill up - CNN

In Texas, the city of San Antonio and Bexar County have secured several refrigerated trailers to store bodies until they can be released to funeral homes, Mario Martinez, Metro Health Assistant Director, said in a video interview released by the city. He said that they currently have two in operation and another three will be operational by the end of the week.

Cameron and Hidalgo counties in Texas are sharing a large refrigerated trailer to store bodies of coronavirus patients because of a lack of space at the morgues.

Fake News.

"It is unclear how many of the deaths are related to the coronavirus -- the county has said fatalities go up in the summer due to the heat."

 

[CadyandZoe]

The Left wing media is worse than "fake news". They are AntiChrists!

Yes, they are. The battle is heating up and will get worse before it gets better. Our country is under attack. Americans need to rise up against their corrupt leaders, who are selling the country to foreign interests.

 

[Giuliano]

Fake News.

"It is unclear how many of the deaths are related to the coronavirus -- the county has said fatalities go up in the summer due to the heat."

First you didn't believe they had so many bodies, they needed refrigerated trucks. Now you dub a story "fake news" because you don't know how many deaths exactly were related to the virus. Do they rent refrigerated trucks every year when it gets hot?

Maybe Govenor Abbott could declare a state emergency because of the heat! Maybe people are dying of dehydration because the bars are closed! Maybe drinking more beer would save lives in Texas.

We will have to wait to see what Q says. Q knows everything. Q is everywhere, sees all, hears all, knows all.

 

[Giuliano]

Yes, they are. The battle is heating up and will get worse before it gets better. Our country is under attack. Americans need to rise up against their corrupt leaders, who are selling the country to foreign interests.

I thought Trump was President. I thought you supported him.

 

[Giuliano]

The "heat" is so bad in Texas, they had to ask the military to help!

Army, New York medical teams giving Houston a helping hand during pandemic

Teams of doctors and nurses from New York and the U.S. Army have descended on Houston after the nation’s fourth-largest city sought help to deal with a surge of coronavirus cases and hospitalizations.

A 86-person Army team of doctors, nurses, and support staff on Thursday worked to take over a wing of United Memorial Medical Center, a small north Houston hospital, to help it treat COVID-19 patients.

The military personnel were expected to pair up with hospital staff and treat up to about 40 patients at a time in the coming days. As the pandemic has progressed, the hospital has been rapidly dedicating more and more space to virus care.

Some of the soldiers on Thursday wore their duty uniforms. Others wore scrubs affixed with strips of surgical tape that bore their ranks, names and medical titles.

Nothing to see here. It's just the heat. No, it's not global warming either. The high temperature is just a plot by the media. Maybe people aren't even dying. I wonder if the military is planning a coup.

 

[kcnalp]

Yes, they are. The battle is heating up and will get worse before it gets better. Our country is under attack. Americans need to rise up against their corrupt leaders, who are selling the country to foreign interests.

World Government dead ahead. Nothing can stop it.

Revelation 13:7 And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.

 

[CadyandZoe]

I thought Trump was President. I thought you supported him.

Yes, I support the President. But he is just one man. The rest of us need to do what we can at the local level. Above all, pray without ceasing.

Remember, this is not Democrat against Republican. This is the Global Syndicate against the United States. Even so, we have enemies both foreign and domestic, because there are those who live among us who have been indoctrinated into Marxism/Communism. School children have been taught to hate the country, which is why the current manifestation of hatred has spread like a prairie fire.

 

[kcnalp]

Isn't it amazing how much this world has changed in the last few months! It's just getting started!

Matthew 24
21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect's sake those days will be shortened.

 

[Giuliano]

Yes, I support the President. But he is just one man. The rest of us need to do what we can at the local level. Above all, pray without ceasing.

Remember, this is not Democrat against Republican. This is the Global Syndicate against the United States. Even so, we have enemies both foreign and domestic, because there are those who live among us who have been indoctrinated into Marxism/Communism. School children have been taught to hate the country, which is why the current manifestation of hatred has spread like a prairie fire.

It sounded as if you were in favor of overthrowing the US government including Trump and Pence when you wrote Americans "need to rise up against their corrupt leaders."