Irrefutable proof that Jesus is God.

[mjrhealth]

He is not pesky to me...and neither is His word.

But apparently, His word is pesky to you...

Because you are set on condemning those who preach it as not having a relationship with Him.

And while this may be the case for some, it is not always the case.

If you knew Him as you say you do, you would rather Him. the Word of God than the bible, seems you dont know the difference between that what is alive and that what is dead.

2Co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Joh_5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

 

[justbyfaith]

If you knew Him as you say you do, you would rather Him. the Word of God than the bible, seems you dont know the difference between that what is alive and that what is dead.

2Co 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Joh_5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

A million times over, I have a relationship with Jesus Christ!

He has told me to study His word (2 Timothy 2:15) and to utilize it in order to bring lost souls to Him (see 2 Timothy 4:2, Proverbs 11:30).

It will not return void (Isaiah 55:10-11). It has the power to bring about the new birth in a man (1 Peter 1:23).

 

[Truther]

Wouldnt you rather know Christ or is He pesky toooo,

Sure, that it how I found out that Jesus is the Messiah...through the pesky Bible.

 

[Truther]

What does the scripture say?

Irrefutable proof that Jesus is God.

The scripture says we have a measure of the Holy Ghost, but that the entirety of what God consists of is inside Jesus bodily. Only Jesus has been made omnipresent bodily, and nobody else.

Only Jesus is the only begotten son of God, and nobody else.

Etc.

 

[justbyfaith]

Jesus is the only begotten "Son" of God.

We are sons of God, 1 John 3:1-2.

Jesus is actually the firstbegotten, Hebrews 1:6.

 

[mjrhealth]

Sure, that it how I found out that Jesus is the Messiah...through the pesky Bible.

I didnt I found out who HE was through Him.

Can you just imagine that pesky Jesus teaching those who are willing to hear, just as HE promised. Oh but that mean you dont get the glory...

 

[Truther]

I didnt I found out who HE was through Him.

Can you just imagine that pesky Jesus teaching those who are willing to hear, just as HE promised. Oh but that mean you dont get the glory...

Let me clarify...

For me, a family member received the baptism of the Holy Ghost first, then witnessed to me and bought me a Bible. I would not read it.
A few months later, I was unexpectedly introduced to the Holy Ghost by the Holy Ghost itself.

After that, it caused me to begin to want Bible studies and read my Bible.

Then I UNDERSTOOD

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Truther said:
So, God is not a "nature" or a 'Person", but a Spirit.[/QUOTE\]
At Colossians 2:9 the context of that Scripture is about the nature/quality that is in Jesus Christ who is the Only Begotten Son of Jehovah God. There is a fulness of divine nature/divine quality dwelling in Jesus because it was the decision of Jehovah God that this be so. No one decided that Jehovah God would have divine nature/divine quality. Jehovah God is divine or has a divine nature/divine quality because he is the Only True God the creator of all things and the source of all life.

Truther said:
Fact is, God is a Spirit per John 4:24(as Jesus described what God is)[/QUOTE\]

Yes God is a Spirit but he's still a person and this Spirit person who is Jehovah God is divine in nature. The fullness of this divine nature/divine quality is dwelling in Jesus who is the Only Begotten Son of God. This divine nature/divine quality will be dwelling in Jesus Apostles and disciples when they are resurrected.(2Peter 1:4)

 

[101G]

People are arguing over God nature. well one better re-read Genesis 1:1 THIS IS NOT THE REAL WORLD BUT A "CREATED" ONE. the only real Being is Jesus the Holy Spirit, who is GOD. The Spirit, who is God is the only PERSON, for we exist because of him. for in him we have our movement and being/present. see Acts 17:28

PICJAG.

 

[Truther]

Truther said:
So, God is not a "nature" or a 'Person", but a Spirit.[/QUOTE\]
At Colossians 2:9 the context of that Scripture is about the nature/quality that is in Jesus Christ who is the Only Begotten Son of Jehovah God. There is a fulness of divine nature/divine quality dwelling in Jesus because it was the decision of Jehovah God that this be so. No one decided that Jehovah God would have divine nature/divine quality. Jehovah God is divine or has a divine nature/divine quality because he is the Only True God the creator of all things and the source of all life.

Truther said:
Fact is, God is a Spirit per John 4:24(as Jesus described what God is)[/QUOTE\]

Yes God is a Spirit but he's still a person and this Spirit person who is Jehovah God is divine in nature. The fullness of this divine nature/divine quality is dwelling in Jesus who is the Only Begotten Son of God. This divine nature/divine quality will be dwelling in Jesus Apostles and disciples when they are resurrected.(2Peter 1:4)

I think the "person/nature" description of God, "humanizes" God, which is RCC in origin.

It is better to use Jesus' description as a Spirit.

That is how he saw it and I see it.

You debunked Col 2:9 again too.

Bad habit.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

I think the "person/nature" description of God, "humanizes" God, which is RCC in origin.

It is better to use Jesus' description as a Spirit.

That is how he saw it and I see it.

You debunked Col 2:9 again too.

Bad habit.

Actually you debunk Colossians 2:9. See although God is a spirit, he is also a person. So because you say God isn't a person you debunk Colossians 2:9. God is a Holy spiritual divine being

 

[justbyfaith]

@BARNEY BRIGHT,

There is one Lord in holy scripture (Ephesians 4:5, 1 Corinthians 8:6); and it is clear that this Lord is the Father (Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21). Nevertheless, no one can say that Jesus is the Lord except by the Spirit of truth (1 Corinthians 12:3 (kjv)). And Jesus is the Lord (1 Corinthians 8:6).

Eph 4:5, One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

1Co 8:6, But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Mat 11:25, At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

Luk 10:21, In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

1Co 12:3, Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

1Co 8:6, But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Think for a little while as to what this means for your denial of Christ's Deity.

I think that you will find that your belief does not stand when brought under the scrutiny of holy scripture.

 

[Truther]

Actually you debunk Colossians 2:9. See although God is a spirit, he is also a person. So because you say God isn't a person you debunk Colossians 2:9. God is a Holy spiritual divine being

Show me a verse that explains God as a person.

It does not even say God is a being.

God is only described as a Spirit by Jesus and others.

You seem to equate God as the India types.

When Jesus described God as a Spirit, he was certainly thinking of a Spirit that is to infinity and farther....

This is not a person, being etc, but an "energy" force that is made of light.

This invisible, yet blinding energy force is now completely encapsulated in the bodily omnipresent son He made Jesus into, after resurrecting him.

This is exactly what Col 2:9 says and means.

...not "a wee bit of God in Christ's wee little body", as most teach.

 

[justbyfaith]

Show me a verse that explains God as a person.

Sorry, man, but you are out of line.

I believe that Exodus 3:14 will suffice very nicely.

 

[Truther]

Sorry, man, but you are out of line.

I believe that Exodus 3:14 will suffice very nicely.

If He was a person He would have said "I is what I is".

LOL

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Show me a verse that explains God as a person.

It does not even say God is a being.

God is only described as a Spirit by Jesus and others.

You seem to equate God as the India types.

When Jesus described God as a Spirit, he was certainly thinking of a Spirit that is to infinity and farther....

This is not a person, being etc, but an "energy" force that is made of light.

This invisible, yet blinding energy force is now completely encapsulated in the bodily omnipresent son He made Jesus into, after resurrecting him.

This is exactly what Col 2:9 says and means.

...not "a wee bit of God in Christ's wee little body", as most teach.

What I see in the Bible is that the scriptures decribes God as the living God. He is a rational being, conscious of His existence. As the living God He possesses the attributes of a person. For, among other things, He can love, express anger, and show mercy. The Bible also says that God has a will and an intellect. All of these characteristics are consistent of a person. Furthermore, the Bible contrasts the personal living God with impersonal idols that are mere things. So the Bible clearly teaches that God is person
.

 

[Joseph77]

So the Bible clearly teaches that God is person

Sorry, no.
Even what Yhvh says is love, is not understood by most (who think it is emotion or feeling).

Since the Bible says Yhvh is NOT a man.... this is truth, not what you determined in your own thinking.

 

[Joseph77]

If He was a person He would have said "I is what I is".

LOL

No He wouldn't - He would have said something in Hebrew ! hahaha.....

 

[Joseph77]

Show me a verse that explains God as a person.

If you ask a catholic to show you a verse that explains why their pernicious mass is evil,
do you think they could do that at all, ever, even if given ten years ??
I don't think so.
Or, thankfully, if they finally could , like Charles Chiniquoy and Martin Luther? and Keith Green (not a catholic) they would be free from the lie, at least that part of the lie.

So it would be vanity to ask? .... hmmm.... or no, maybe not.... maybe it would be what God knows they needed to give them a glimmer of light !!!! HALLELUYAH !

CARRY ON IN JESUS !

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Sorry, no.
Even what Yhvh says is love, is not understood by most (who think it is emotion or feeling).

Since the Bible says Yhvh is NOT a man.... this is truth, not what you determined in your own thinking.

Well since God created us in his image according to his likeness, I believe God to be a person.

I never said that when the scriptures say "God is love," that I believe that's talking about some emotion or feeling.

The Bible says something about love that it never says about Jehovah’s other cardinal attributes. The Scriptures do not say that God is power or that God is justice or even that God is wisdom. He possesses those qualities and is the ultimate source of all three. About love, though, something more profound is said at 1 John 4:8: “God is love.” Yes, love runs very deep in Jehovah. It is his very essence, or nature. Generally speaking, we might think of it this way: Jehovah’s power enables him to act. His justice and his wisdom guide the way he acts. However, Jehovah’s love motivates him to act. And his love is always reflected in the way he uses his other attributes.
Jehovah has shown love in many ways, but there is one that stands out above all others. Sending his Son to suffer and die for us. This is the greatest act of love in all history.