I think I like it actually -I'm working on it in my style, or are you going to gripe about my M.O.?
everything is tested before being accepted still....
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I think I like it actually -I'm working on it in my style, or are you going to gripe about my M.O.?
Quote the Gospel you are referring to.The Gospel doesn't contain the word 'could'.
Note: this is not the Gospel , not even paraphrased.I am sinning and in danger of going to hell."
Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures,Quote the Gospel you are referring to.
I never claimed it to be the Gospel.Note: this is not the Gospel , not even paraphrased.
It could be real - it is subject to testing before being accepted.
I never claimed it to be the Gospel.
The Gospel doesn't contain the word 'could'.
The Gospel preached to you, which you received, COULD be in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, IF YOU HOLD FAST TO THE WORD I PREACHED TO YOUNow I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures,
(1Co 15:1-4)
Which is a summary of Romans 1-3...esp 3
Ok, so you are saying we must add 'our holding fast' to what Christ has done in order to be saved?The Gospel preached to you, which you received, COULD be in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, IF YOU HOLD FAST TO THE WORD I PREACHED TO YOU
unless you believed in vain...
i.e. it COULD be of no good effect
Who said "IF YOU ENDURE TO THE END ?"Ok, so you are saying we must add 'our holding fast' to what Christ has done in order to be saved?
IOW, faith in the Gospel.
But not with Paul?Who said "IF YOU ENDURE TO THE END ?"
Jesus ....
I agree with Jesus.
Non sequitur, so you may have toBut not with Paul?
Let's not get into free will...For it is God who works in us both to will and do(Jesus does NOT take away your free will before you physically die - so you can choose who you will follow until then... up to a point... , all as detailed in the Gospel.)
We were referring to Paul in 1Cor 11 and you slipped in Jesus speaking to the Jews about the Tribulation, not the Gospel.Non sequitur, so you may have to
quote Scripture ,
or explain what you mean.
If you do not have free will, then it is or will be no use to have any discussion with you - it would mean you cannot be saved at all.... or being saved are just a bot (as noted in the last week - bots can and do carry on conversations, like the well known alexa, et al, and many of the bots are every day more in number than the members signed in )Let's not get into free will...For it is God who works in us both to will and do
of His good pleasure.
What ?We were referring to Paul in 1Cor 11 and you slipped in Jesus speaking to the Jews about the Tribulation, not the Gospel.
Do you turn every thread into a free-will (Arminian/Calvin) debate? No thanks.If you do not have free will, then it is or will be no use to have any discussion with you - it would mean you cannot be saved at all.... or being saved are just a bot (as noted in the last week - bots can and do carry on conversations, like the well known alexa, et al, and many of the bots are every day more in number than the members signed in )
Never even thought of it - no. If you think or trust one or the other of those two groups, woe to you.Do you turn every thread into a free-will (Arminian/Calvin) debate? No thanks.
We were talking about the Gospel as spelled out by Paul in 1Cor 11:1-4 and now you switched gears to Jesus speaking about the Great Trib. And now you say, "What you are saying is not correct as far as I can tell ". Adios amigo.What ?
(quote in context)
What you are saying is not correct as far as I can tell from this post and a few others...