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imo thats gotta be pretty much what a diaspora feels like eh?So your vote in a poll would be "no doctrinally pure church" then?
I don't by any means intend to put you on the spot (after all, you're certainly not the first one ever to express the sentiment), but that's kinda sad when you think about it. I mean, Israel had the truth--Christ said as much in John 4:22. But He's left His end-time church without a true orthodoxy. Somehow it doesn't make sense. I can't think of a good explanation for such a state of affairs that wouldn't seem like rationalization.
hmm. Jews had the vowels anyway, we worship what we know doesnt necessarily mean "truth?"I mean, Israel had the truth--Christ said as much in John 4:22
ha. what drove everyone away, while you stayed?Who was it that said you were not a Christian?
I remember one man, who had been my nominal pastor during some really bad times for me, left town after he had driven away all but two members [myself and my Mexican friend who died earlier this year] of a medium sized assembly. His wife was the instigator, but he was the one, who seemed to have the responsibility. He said in effect before he left that that town had no one left in it who was serving or would serve God. He did not run out of towns but of people. Personally, I liked him. As a pastor his best accomplishment was not blaming his wife for causing all of the trouble. She really did for the most part, but he never lifted a finger to stop her or that I could see to help her. Not everyone that left was without fault, but nonetheless they were driven away. He was never really a pastor, but he did carry the title... until he left too.
Now he is in another state with another church. I visited once many years ago shortly after he left the one in my state. He really wanted some of his old members to follow him to the new place. Not one ever did.
Wouldn't you have a plain, then, like Shinar?Yah seeks entropy, every mountain levelled, every valley filled
hmm, i doubt it, wadr. Speaking for myself at least i have no grudges against any of your beliefsLikes are one thing. My beliefs are hated here in evangelical land
well i guess if everything happened at once, maybe, ya.Wouldn't you have a plain, then, like Shinar?
Touché. I'm taking the "just joking" exit. lolwell i guess if everything happened at once, maybe, ya.
Funny that one of the possible roots for Shinar indicates "scattering" though i guess
Hey Phillip! I hope you are blessed today.
Listen, don't take offense, but I had to chuckle reading your post.
We must not be mental automatons that think as we are told. If so, we are doomed already.
Yep the ground at the cross is level.imo thats gotta be pretty much what a diaspora feels like eh?
we seek to congregate with the like-minded, and build towers,
and Yah seeks entropy, every mountain levelled, every valley filled
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hmm. Jews had the vowels anyway, we worship what we know doesnt necessarily mean "truth?"
That bunch way back in the day built it in a valley the way I understand, I’m sure it was cool there with all the shadows, but there was also death there.imo thats gotta be pretty much what a diaspora feels like eh?
we seek to congregate with the like-minded, and build towers,
and Yah seeks entropy, every mountain levelled, every valley filled
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hmm. Jews had the vowels anyway, we worship what we know doesnt necessarily mean "truth?"
Yes, they can, and do so all the time. Just sayin'Can one claim authority who has not received it from who has the authority to give it?
Sounds good and really is good insofar as God agrees with it...
Am I right while you are wrong?
It it necessary to agree precisely in order for both of us to please God?
And if what you say is so, how does one know when it is that the "Church" is doing the correcting rather than some man or group of men?
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" II Tim 3:16
But as we know lots of people have access to Bibles containing what most people will agree is scripture. In spite of that they, as we have seen on this very forum, often disagree in when or what to reprove, to correct or to instruct.
Yes, they can, and do so all the time. Just sayin'
What makes you think mens churches have the truth, only Christ does but so few are willing to submit to Him.
It could possibly mean you have convictions and those convictions are in line with what that denomination teaches.If you believe your denomination is teaching something that is closer to the truth than others, does that necessarily mean you are narrow-minded or elitist or, worse yet, look down on those of other faiths?
Mens church and His church are not one and the same, do you think His bride is ugly and divided like men and his religionswhatsoever 'mens churches' have that they received from Christ's Church, remains true regardless...
Christ and His Church are One!
Can't see the point of the question.If you believe your denomination is teaching something that is closer to the truth than others, does that necessarily mean you are narrow-minded or elitist or, worse yet, look down on those of other faiths?
I believe another name for traditional Christianity is maintaining the status quo where most of the time nothing happens.No. I feel sorry for others that are not Traditional Christians, those who have walked away because they can not believe all of Christ words like "this is my Body" and this" is my Blood". Of course most everyone here hate me for one reason or another if it's not for my stance on mask it's hatred for my Traditional Christianity. sigh.
Oh but man has being, look at all his towers he has built to heaven, just like babylon. Yes God is no fool that why Jesus called His people out.. Come out of her my people.Hah, true enough. But God is not fooled...
Serviam!