The Ten Commandments—What happened?

[Waiting on him]

Well, I don't believe that God has abandoned this State of Israel. That is Replacement Theology. But they are still partially blinded for a couple more years, then all of them in that State will be saved.

What about the ones that have died in their sins for the last 2k years?

 

[justbyfaith]

It is a total STRAW MAN argument.

No one is claiming salvation by works. NO ONE!

There are no legalists here.

Obedience is not in the slightest bit meritorious toward salvation and NO ONE, NO ONE is saying so!!!

Are you certain of that?

While it is now a well-known fact that salvation by works is a false doctrine, this does not preclude that there is no one reading posts on any given message board who actually believes in it.

 

[BarneyFife]

Are you certain of that?

While it is now a well-known fact that salvation by works is a false doctrine, this does not preclude that there is no one reading posts on any given message board who actually believes in it.

Well if there is someone they're very well-disciplined to never, ever comment on it. Nice spin.

 

[justbyfaith]

Well if there is someone they're very well-disciplined to never, ever comment on it. Nice spin.

I do believe that there are web-crawlers who never post; but who nevertheless frequent the boards "to see what the Christians are saying."

I have also encountered and disputed with people in times past concerning the doctrine of justification by faith apart from works, and defeated them logically. It may be that people of that pov are now intimidated about posting their views.

 

[CharismaticLady]

What about the ones that have died in their sins for the last 2k years?

I wish they could be, but it is only through Christ one is saved.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Would not His Hebrew speaking friends have called Him Yeshua though? (Joshua)

The (OT) name of "Joshua" derives from the Divine Name of 'Yahweh' meaning "I-AM".

Jesus' Name was announced "a New Name" and its meaning was given first-hand, Iehsous / Jesus - He who will Redeem his people.

To give names from another tongue has always been common practice among all nations.

Jesus was God the Son conceived of the Holy Spirit born of a 'Jewish' woman, the Son of Man; and His Name was the Greek (human) name found in the Divinely Inspired Word of God the Holy Scriptures.

I would therefore reckon his Hebrew speaking friends would have called Him by his Greek name, in English and many modern languages, 'Jesus' from 'Iehsous'.

 

[Cooper]

I wish they could be, but it is only through Christ one is saved.

There goes a Christian saved by the grace of God.
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[GerhardEbersoehn]

the original letter to the Hebrews would hardly be written in Greek. That makes no sense.

Nowadays everyone writes everything in English because practicality leaves one no option.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Do you think I would do such a thing, CL? I'm suggesting that what was finished might not be what some people think was finished. The resurrection was necessary to complete the death to sin - new life in Christ motif. So it must have been something besides general atonement that was finished whet He announced it. Even the ascension was part of the atonement ("Touch me not, for I have not yet ascended to my Father"). The Sanctuary services weren't merely a wanton bloodbath of poor, dumb animals. The plan of salvation was on display for the world to see.

The Calvary event is and always will be the centerpiece of time, space, and matter. It is the sublime expression of Godly (self-sacrificing, other-centered) love. Words can't describe the glory and beauty of it. The altar of burnt offering was at the entrance to the tent of meeting, not the ultimate destination--the Holy of Holies. But being at the entrance, it was the way for the sinner and the end. But atonement is not completed there.

What was finished (besides the first phase of redemption) was the unfallen angels' sympathy for Satan. Did you not read the chapter called "It Is Finished" in Desire Of Ages when you were an Adventist?

The Desire Of Ages - Chapter 79 - It Is Finished

My dear brother in Jesus Christ, Seventh day Adventism and Roman Catholicism still have both knees each on your neck and you are suffocating for want of the PURE Gospel of the Bible-Word of God. This referred book has done more harm than all RC publications together, to the souls of millions and of solitary individuals who tried to get away from the snares of the demonic doctrines these two anti-Christ churches share and cherish.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

It's so simple. The devil hates the 4th commandment because it describes the job he wants to steal from God, even though he knows it's impossible, as he will be painfully reminded of when he experiences the "scorched earth" policy of Heaven for 1000 years.

O goodness, now I understand. You have come up with a 'better' alternative than the SDAs'? Save me it!

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

What was finished was the Old Covenant. Otherwise "NEW" has no meaning if the old covenant was still in affect. Exodus 34:28

The less they know the more bombastic they get.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Jesus fulfilled the Law and thus rendered it null and void! AS written in Galatians.

This is a repeat in fact. Can't you be a little original?

It's a repeat of the farcical lamentable junk joke curse <<Jesus fulfilled the Law and thus rendered it null and void! AS written in Galatians>> COMPLETE. Agh to get sick of...

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

the #613 will be used to denote that there are more than just the original ten commandments written in stone that we identify as the law of God. It is also very conveniently associated with a doctrine, found in Galatians 6:13 (notice the similarity on numbers).

Thanks for making it so effortless to recognise bull's dust from bull's eat.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Personally, I didn't think you meant I was devoid. I have been baptized in the Spirit when I was almost 30 and the Spirit wrote the eternal laws of God on my heart, which are more than the commandments of the Old Covenant (Exodus 34:28), to make me lacking nothing I need to be saved. I actually felt a complete change to my nature take place and I couldn't stop smiling.

Saving for reference: Definition of ...

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

 

[BarneyFife]

O goodness, now I understand. You have come up with a 'better' alternative than the SDAs'? Save me it!

Yeah, I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[justbyfaith]

Colossians 1:27, Galatians 2:20 were not inspired by the Spirit of Christ?

 

[BarneyFife]

Jesus fulfilled the Law and thus rendered it null and void! AS written in Galatians.

Did He render all righteousness null and void whe He was baptized? Are you sure that's what "fulfilled" means?

Mat 3:14-15 KJV 14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

 

[justbyfaith]

Jesus fulfilled the law in that He lived a perfect life and then died to take the penalty for our sins: His righteousness and perfection now being applied to our account.

He also fulfills it in the present tense in that He has come to live a perfect life in and through us (Galatians 2:20).

 

[Cooper]

Did He render all righteousness null and void whe He was baptized? Are you sure that's what "fulfilled" means?

Mat 3:14-15 KJV 14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

Did you fail to understand Ronald Nolette was NOT talking about righteousness, but the law, which is now null and void, unless that is you do not accept Christ as your saviour, and then you come under the law, that condemns you to death.
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