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(The Jewish calendar is based on "the times of Abraham," not Creation.)
Any excuse to disobey. Even if the calendar were corrupted (and it's not) would God expect us to stop keeping a commandment because of that?
 

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If a person doesn't want to keep a commandment, why can't they just say so and be done with it?
 

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Getting desperate? Calendars now? The U.S. Naval Observatory says there is no reason to believe the 7-day cycle has ever been disrupted.
We all know the Jews have to keep inserting days, due to their calendar being lunar based. That means the sabbath keeps falling on different days, but they just change the name. Its nonsense.
 

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I hope that story works out for you. I really do, believe it or not.
Just in case:
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Anyway, Jesus ended Judaism, and we have a new High Priest who is alive for evermore.

All you have is a dead religion, that finally died when the temple was destroyed and a pagan temple built in it's place.
 

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We all know the Jews have to keep inserting days, due to their calendar being lunar based. That means the sabbath keeps falling on different days, but they just change the name. Its nonsense.
The weekly cycle is not affected by this.
 

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And even though God went to so much trouble, using so many inspired human instruments to deliver that simple message, over such a long period of time, miraculously keeping it relatively intact over that same time and protecting it from so many who sought it's destruction, with all 66 books, three quarters of a million words, numerous commentaries, dictionaries, lexicons, scholars and wannabe experts to tell us what its all about, we are still debating on what it all means. *Sigh*

Act 28:24, And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not.
Act 28:25, And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,
Act 28:26, Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:
Act 28:27, For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
Act 28:28, Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.
Act 28:29, And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves.


don't think there was a great deal of outward righteous behavior when they were bustling Jesus toward a cliff top... Conspiring to kill Him... Paying judas to be a traitor... Screaming crucify Him, crucify Him"", unjustly going through a farce of a trial... Persecuting His followers and killing them and jailing them...
They may have observed religious requirements like keeping feasts and killing lambs etc, but I wouldn't mistake that for fulfilling outwardly righteous requirements of the law. And there are many who religiously observe the ten commandments but that isn't righteousness.

I will hold to what Jesus meant when He spoke of the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees...I don't think that He was commenting on how unrighteous they really were; but on how righteous we have to be in order to enter the kingdom. And the fact remains that the scribes and Pharisees were sticklers for the law...and therefore their righteousness according to the law was impeccable. Consider Paul's testimony og his life before Christ as a Pharisee:

Phl 3:4, Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
Phl 3:5, Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
Phl 3:6, Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.


Don't shift the goal posts, it's YOU who are not inspired by the Spirit of Christ!

God bless you.

The spirit within us, lady, is wicked, so wicked it will lie to us it is the Spirit of the Divine. It CANNOT be The Divine Spirit if it is in us. Simple as that.

I suggest that you read 1 Corinthians 6:17 and Ephesians 3:19; as well as 2 Timothy 1:14.


Colossians 1:27, Ephesians 3:17, and Galatians 2:20, all testify of "Christ in me"...

These verses are not inspired by the Spirit of Christ?

So you agree, then, that all Christians should, by the grace of God, observe and keep the ten commandments today--even the 4th?

I do agree, but not for reasons you might suspect. My primary reason for obeying sabbath and food laws is found in Romans 15:1.

One or two texts do not a doctrine make.

I disagree.
 
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I do not accept that SDA is a Christian religion neither, do I think the cults should use the name.
What makes you think you can decide what is genuine and what is not genuine Christianity or the Christian religion? "ACCORDING TO THE LAW AND PROPHETS"! And the many Confessions in Scripture and according to Scripture. But not Cooper, sorry, by no means.
 
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What makes you think you can decide what is genuine and what is not genuine Christianity or the Christian religion? "ACCORDING TO THE LAW AND PROPHETS"! And the many Confessions in Scripture and according to Scripture. But not Cooper, sorry, by no means.
The Bible tells us Jesus created the heavens and the earth and is God with us. Many religions and cults deny this, leaving them godless, unable to keep the law themselves and so are destined for eternal damnation.

These same people then attack the one faith that offers a solution according to the law and the prophets, and proceed to promote their own religion, while denying the true God, so leading people away from the Good Shepherd, and doing Satan's work for him.
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Yes as He is Lord OVER his People. Beware, AS HE IS LORD OVER HIS, SABBATH!

By the way where have you seen the Jewish sabbath? I'm sure not in Scripture.
I do not know how the Jews arrived at Saturday, especially as each 'day' of creation, meaning a period of time, took billions of years. We are in the seventh day now and still going. It is an exceedingly long day.
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