Where do aborted babies go?

[Candidus]

Aborted babies have no chance to make spiritual choices. So they will be saved.

Yet, they are not eligible by merit or innocence, but by the grace of the Cross. Adam's Fall made all humanity fall, and the work of Christ (the Second Adam) we all live. I credit the work of Christ as the reason that no one goes to hell on the demerit of Adam. (Romans 5).

 

[Marymog]

What do you think happens to babies if they are aborted?

Can you believe God would send innocent babies to hell? That doesn't seem right to me.

If they go to Heaven, think about it. If they were born, they could become terrible sinners and wind up in hell. If someone killed them first, they'd go to Heaven. So can that be right? Could you be doing a baby a favor by aborting it and sending it to Heaven? That doesn't seem right to me either.

Well, an unborn baby is a person at conception. However, they did not have the chance to commit a sin so their is no stain of sin on their soul. A sinless soul goes to heaven.

My two cents worth...Mary

 

[Giuliano]

They go to heaven.

So would that mean an abortion doctor was responsible for thousands of souls going to Heaven?

 

[Giuliano]

Well, an unborn baby is a person at conception. However, they did not have the chance to commit a sin so their is no stain of sin on their soul. A sinless soul goes to heaven.

My two cents worth...Mary

So your church teaches now about a baby being a person at conception. How old is that idea? Do you know?

Has the Catholic Church changed its teaching about "original sin"?

 

[Truther]

So would that mean an abortion doctor was responsible for thousands of souls going to Heaven?

....as he(doctor) goes to hell.

 

[Giuliano]

....as he(doctor) goes to hell.

Well, maybe the following doesn't apply since the unborn aren't sinners -- but he wouldn't get a reward for saving their souls from death?

James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

 

[Truther]

Well, maybe the following doesn't apply since the unborn aren't sinners -- but he wouldn't get a reward for saving their souls from death?

James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

Aborting is not converting a soul.

 

[Giuliano]

Aborting is not converting a soul.

It's stopping them from becoming sinners -- then they don't need converting.

 

[kcnalp]

So would that mean an abortion doctor was responsible for thousands of souls going to Heaven?

He's still guilty of mass murder.

 

[kcnalp]

Well, maybe the following doesn't apply since the unborn aren't sinners -- but he wouldn't get a reward for saving their souls from death?

James 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

He/she doesn't murder babies to save their souls. They do it for $$$.

 

[Josho]

Where does the Bible say that?

That which is born of the flesh is flesh. The flesh is unqualified for heaven.

Babies that die are saved by grace, just like any other person of the human race.

I am not aware that it does say that, but it just sounds like it would be common Christian sense, a baby being innocent. It's like the baby hasn't eaten from the tree of knowledge of good and evil yet, Adam and Eve were without sin before they ate from that tree.

Could we also assume that a child would be without sin before they know the difference between good and evil?

I believe babies are saved by grace.

 

[Spurgeon's Girl]

Good question. I must confess that I have not read every post. I read up and through page 4. It looks like your question got lost in the speculation. It seemed to be genuine so I appreciated it very much.

The only place to find answers is in the Bible. No philosopher, politician, or preacher can speak for God.

The Bible teaches that we were chosen by God before the foundation of the world.

Ephesians 1:3-11

Spiritual Blessings in Christ

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, 4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love 5 he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, 6 to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved. 7 In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, 8 which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight 9 making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ 10 as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

11 In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will,


The Bible also says that we are totally depraved. Yes, this means babies as well. People use this argument to tug at our emotions.


Romans 5:12
12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned—

Genesis 6:5
5 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Psalm 58:3
3 The wicked are estranged from the womb;
These who speak lies go astray from [a]birth.

Ecclesiastes 9:3
3 This is an evil in all that is done under the sun, that there is one fate for all men. Furthermore, the hearts of the sons of men are full of evil and insanity is in their hearts throughout their lives. Afterwards they go to the dead.

Jeremiah 17:9
9 “The heart is more deceitful than all else
And is desperately sick;
Who can understand it?

There is so much more the Bible says regarding our place in His creation.

 

[Josho]

I am not aware that it does say that, but it just sounds like it would be common Christian sense, a baby being innocent. It's like the baby hasn't eaten from the tree of knowledge of good and evil yet, Adam and Eve were without sin before they ate from that tree.

Could we also assume that a child would be without sin before they know the difference between good and evil?

I believe babies are saved by grace.

Could this also back up babies going to heaven?

Genesis 1:27
So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

If God created mankind in his own image how could they be guilty at birth or before birth? It's a little baby created in God's image that does not know the difference between right and wrong, it's at an age of innocence.

 

[kcnalp]

Babies don't know right from wrong, born or unborn, they go to heaven if they die. Anyone who believes any baby goes to Hell is DEPRAVED!

 

[Josho]

Babies don't know right from wrong, born or unborn, they go to heaven if they die. Anyone who believes any baby goes to Hell is DEPRAVED!

I wonder what those who voted other reckon?

Maybe they think one needs to be given birth to, to have a soul?

 

[ThePuffyBlob]

i am 101% sure somewhere in heaven or in the new earth but the growth is unsure will they become an elder right away or will they continue grow in the spiritual/soul form this is a secret that has not been known to us let's not think about it we will not be able to come up with the right answer

 

[Spurgeon's Girl]

I am not aware that it does say that, but it just sounds like it would be common Christian sense, a baby being innocent. It's like the baby hasn't eaten from the tree of knowledge of good and evil yet, Adam and Eve were without sin before they ate from that tree.

Could we also assume that a child would be without sin before they know the difference between good and evil?

I believe babies are saved by grace.

I'm new here and I certainly don't wish to offend. But I don't believe that your statement regarding good and evil is correct in that the Bible doesn't say that. If I am wrong, please show me from the scriptures where what you have said, is addressed? I'd be grateful.

The Bible says this regarding our sin state:
Romans 5:12
12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned—

Genesis 6:5
5 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

Psalm 58:3
3 The wicked are estranged from the womb;
These who speak lies go astray from [a]birth.

Ecclesiastes 9:3
3 This is an evil in all that is done under the sun, that there is one fate for all men. Furthermore, the hearts of the sons of men are full of evil and insanity is in their hearts throughout their lives. Afterwards they go to the dead.

Jeremiah 17:9
9 “The heart is more deceitful than all else
And is desperately sick;
Who can understand it?

 

[Spurgeon's Girl]

Could this also back up babies going to heaven?

Genesis 1:27
So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

If God created mankind in his own image how could they be guilty at birth or before birth? It's a little baby created in God's image that does not know the difference between right and wrong, it's at an age of innocence.

Not if other scripture demonstrates it to be wrong. I've already posted the verses on total depravity. The Bible never contradicts itself. We are all created in God's image, but men and women are nevertheless sent to hell.

 

[kcnalp]

but men and women are nevertheless sent to hell.

But not babies. Not a one!

 

[Josho]

Not if other scripture demonstrates it to be wrong. I've already posted the verses on total depravity. The Bible never contradicts itself. We are all created in God's image, but men and women are nevertheless sent to hell.

So what's your belief in aborted babies on where they go?