The Voter Fraud Is Coming

[Hidden In Him]

Most likely Trump will lose so convincingly it's no contest.

Possibly, but they had no way of knowing this months (if not years) ago when I believe they formulated the plan laid out in this dream. Now that it is in full swing, it will virtually guarantee that the election will actually be contested, in the courts, no matter who wins.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Trump is going to lose because he is a nutcase.
Saying he is covid ok because of his health and his young age is just nuts.

Great leaders are known to be great because they see how things are, make a decision and stick to it.
Trump knows he fluffed covid 100% and the rescue package for business.

If a guy has no heart for people just what is popular, of what value is he? With the curtain drops and the emporer has no clothes does anyone claim he has something to offer. It was a good point with Nato and the trade deals with China and other parts of the world needed shaking up, trying out North Korea, but take North Korea, fake coming to peace talks, carry on the nuclear missile development and fluff everything, and they get what they want with no confrontation or military attack. In a game of chess you can commit all your pawns and seem to dominate the board except when they are all taken, what have you left but a slow defeat?

There is a serious industry restructure issue across the world, but it is actually going to get worse. Are Ford and GM in debt and without the resources to go EV in 10 years? If so they are dead. How many industries are in a similar position, or nimble enough to adjust to the new world of less travel, more distant working and tighter local communities?

Climate change is catastrophic, and its getting worse. Africa relocating, India with floods and dry seasons, California with wild fires, Australia with wild fires, and each year its going to get worse. There is no going back, no old certainties, just a technological and challenging future.

We need exploration and vision of this new world, more energy efficient, more caring and responsible and more able to see the future.
God bless you

See Post #160.

 

[FollowHim]

Yep. He didn't stand a chance against Hillary; and he can't beat Harris (I mean Biden).

Silly People!
Bobby Jo

Hillary would have won if not for the Facebook targetted voters.

Put simply polling represents a statistical average of everyone, not a special group. Who is Trumps special group now? No one. Women don't like him, Christians do not like him, covid handling is a farce.

There is no quick fix to a sinking ship, Trump knows this. Coal and oil are never coming back, green everything is the agenda, with technology showing the way.

It's only 3 weeks, crunch time. What has Trump done other than moan about others? If USA is not great again after 4years, another 4years of the same is just standing still.

What is weird to me is Bill Gates has changed the world, yet Trump supporters think generous giving people should be called evil.....odd for a free market success driven society that praises solutions that work. Maybe someone is lying about who and what they love....

 

[FollowHim]

Been working on other dreams today, Devin, but maybe I can focus on this again more between now and the election.


This is something they have been saying for awhile as well. It's just more conditioning, so people will be pre-conditioned to accept the results.


Keep in mind, Giuliano, that this thread was not based on an opinion. It is based on a prophetic dream. I fully understand if you don't believe in such things, just understand that I no longer have a horse in the race. I was once far more Pro-Trump than I am today, but I came to realize that my political bias was preventing me from interpreting some dreams properly. There have been a few that have painted Trump in an extremely bad and self-serving light, so bad in fact that there is no way I could post them on this forum. There are a number of members here who would resist it even more than you are resisting what the Spirit is saying here. But as stated elsewhere, this still does not take away from the fact that Trump is better for the church than the malevolent forces that will come against Christians if he loses.

But as far as this thread is concerned, I am not manipulated by Trump or his supporters or media, nor are my views formed by Biden and the DNC and their media, nor by you, nor by others at this website. My views are formed by what the Spirit is saying to the churches, and others here would do well to do the same, or they will not be open to hear what He is actually saying, both pro and conn.

God bless

Unfortunately I have no faith in complex dreams had by intense and biased people. Either it's the world is wonderful or the beast is here. More like bi-polar hype or depression.

We now can change our world, which is so odd. Where is the prophecy for this, or the ability to conquer illnesses?

Worse still believers being sent express to God is evil, but prophetic healing that fails is biggest Christian slogan. People will believe if they see the non existent miracles......nutcases spewing God says lies, is to be agreed with, insane.....

 

[Hidden In Him]

Unfortunately I have no faith in complex dreams had by intense and biased people. Either it's the world is wonderful or the beast is here.

I can't say as I would have much faith in such dreams either. I don't go on Youtube, at least not to view "prophecy." I go only to listen to music. Thankfully, and to her credit, the woman I received the dream in the OP from is someone just as unbiased on the issue as I am.

We now can change our world, which is so odd. Where is the prophecy for this, or the ability to conquer illnesses?

Worse still believers being sent express to God is evil, but prophetic healing that fails is biggest Christian slogan.

Not totally sure I follow you here, but maybe you could clarify the points made here for me.

God bless,
Hidden

 

[Bobby Jo]

...
You contradict the news coming out of the media.

I expect you'll come to discover the @Giuliano "contradicts" the TRUTH.

Bobby Jo

 

[dev553344]

I expect you'll come to discover the @Giuliano "contradicts" the TRUTH.

Bobby Jo

Yeah we didn't agree on much except democracy should prevail, but I argued that democracy is not being allowed in some of the dem states because of dictator behaviors of some of the dem leaders.

Oh, well.

 

[FollowHim]

... GOD!

And if you knew HIM, you'd understand. But you don't, -- and so you won't.
Bobby Jo

God is over everything, but how we interpret things matters.

They say propoganda focused at key groups is like a weapon, which changes voting results etc. Pure applied tactics is not God but man. And the guys driving this are not believers or with a good aim but want division and conflict.

The problem with politics everyone claims God is with them. And at the extremes murdering people is fine.

But truly if you do bring peace and justice God is bringing judgement using evil men to disrupt the ease and prosperity despite sin

 

[FollowHim]

You can't "interpret" what you don't understand. And you don't understand very much.

Need more milk.
Bobby Jo

Not sure what your "you don't understand very much" statement means other than you disagree with me.

Is there an audience you are speaking to, because I can equally say you are adding nothing to an exchange of ideas and views other than attempting a put down. But these types of put downs are more like tripping and falling on ones face. We can comment on events, and see how they work out.

If my prediction works out, then it means my logic and assessments were correct.
The problem with electoral college voting, is in reality there are only few regions which become contentious, and these can be predicted beforehand. This is why tea leaf readers are a waste of time, because like a stopped clock it is right 2 times a day, but never changes its message.

So we are doomed, and those guys over there are satan, is just bland slander. It is the powerless who speak like this, like a showman wanting attention, the louder they shout the more people hear them.
But like Trump once the criticisms have been spoken, and the solutions failed to deliver the required results, there is nothing left to say.

Sadly I have met hard hearted people who do not know what faithfulness and compassion is, so they will always create and deliver ridiculous ideas and solutions......God bless you

How is it survivalists are also in the crowd of we are doomed, and the hordes of satan followers are overwhelming everything. The link is obviously paranoia, fear of authority, being people who refuse to fit in, or even understand social organisations or groups of people. Alongside this often goes racism, and believing one deserves so much more than one has got because those guys over there stole it.

What is often not seen, is this is the kingdom of this world and how it works not the Kingdom of God.
God bless you

 

[n2thelight]

Example of what's wrong with so called Christians and the double standers

From the Wall Street Journal, August 27, 1998:

Few people have lived a more public life over the past 50 years than has my father, Billy Graham. I can assure you that the Billy Graham you see in public is the same one we children have seen at home. He has spent a lifetime making sure that his public ministry is confirmed in his private behavior.

The topic of private vs. public behavior has emerged as perhaps the central moral issue raised by Bill Clinton’s “improper relationship” with Monica Lewinsky. Much of America seems to have succumbed to the notion that what a person does in private has little bearing on his public actions or job performance, even if he is the president of the United States.

Now compare that to what he said about trump

Court Evangelical Franklin Graham: Trump’s Affair With Stormy Daniels is “Nobody’s Business”
MAY 5, 2018 / JOHNFEA

 

[Giuliano]

Example of what's wrong with so called Christians and the double standers

From the Wall Street Journal, August 27, 1998:

Few people have lived a more public life over the past 50 years than has my father, Billy Graham. I can assure you that the Billy Graham you see in public is the same one we children have seen at home. He has spent a lifetime making sure that his public ministry is confirmed in his private behavior.

The topic of private vs. public behavior has emerged as perhaps the central moral issue raised by Bill Clinton’s “improper relationship” with Monica Lewinsky. Much of America seems to have succumbed to the notion that what a person does in private has little bearing on his public actions or job performance, even if he is the president of the United States.

Now compare that to what he said about trump

Court Evangelical Franklin Graham: Trump’s Affair With Stormy Daniels is “Nobody’s Business”
MAY 5, 2018 / JOHNFEA

Uh, it looks to me as if the worst attacks on Christianity are coming from the inside.

The way I figured it about Bill Clinton was if his own wife couldn't trust him, why should I? Then, after taking an oath to defend the constitution and laws of this county, he went into court and committed perjury. Not my idea of someone who should be President.

Today we have Christian leaders so wrapped up in politics they are defending what they ought to be preaching against.

Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

 

[Giuliano]

Yeah we didn't agree on much except democracy should prevail, but I argued that democracy is not being allowed in some of the dem states because of dictator behaviors of some of the dem leaders.

Oh, well.

Which Democratic leaders you don't like were not elected democratically?

 

[dev553344]

Which Democratic leaders you don't like were not elected democratically?

The one's who deny the constitutional rights of their citizens.

 

[Giuliano]

The one's who deny the constitutional rights of their citizens.

They were elected democratically, but you said "democracy is not being allowed in some of the dem states because of dictator behaviors of some of the dem leaders."

 

[dev553344]

They were elected democratically, but you said "democracy is not being allowed in some of the dem states because of dictator behaviors of some of the dem leaders."

You're from the USA? It doesn't sound like you know what democracy is "a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives."

Have you read the constitution, it upholds the rights of the people to prosper in freedom to ensure democracy. Locking people down, thereby causing their evictions and starving them sounds very contrary to our constitution, doesn't it to you?

We went over all this already. The fact that dem states are allowing criminals to riots while charging law abiding citizens from breaking lockdown rules is very unconstitutional. It gives the criminal rioters rights that are not offered to the law abiding citizens.

 

[Giuliano]

You're from the USA? It doesn't sound like you know what democracy is "a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives."

Have you read the constitution, it upholds the rights of the people to prosper in freedom to ensure democracy. Locking people down, thereby causing their evictions and starving them sounds very contrary to our constitution, doesn't it to you?

We went over all this already. The fact that dem states are allowing criminals to riots while charging law abiding citizens from breaking lockdown rules is very unconstitutional. It gives the criminal rioters rights that are not offered to the law abiding citizens.

I am from the US. The people you're complaining about were elected democratically. Just because someone gets elected democratically doesn't make him a saint or guarantee that he'll protect freedom and the constitution. Democracy has its problems. Bad people can get elected; but that doesn't mean democracy is dead. You said democracy was not being allowed in some states -- and that's not true. It just isn't.

 

[dev553344]

I am from the US. The people you're complaining about were elected democratically.

That's where your wrong, not if the democrats are actually a socialist party now, as supported by the actions of those governors I spoke of and the Biden-Trump debate seems to support Biden is actually a socialist.

Socialists don't have the right to run for office in the US democracy. They should be impeached immediately.

 

[Giuliano]

That's where your wrong, not if the democrats are actually a socialist party now, as supported by the actions of those governors I spoke of and the Biden-Trump debate seems to support Biden is actually a socialist.

Socialists don't have the right to run for office in the US democracy. They should be impeached immediately.

You don't believe in democracy if you think you have the right to decide who can run for office. That's how it's done in Iran. If you don't agree with the ruling party, you can't run for office. You want someone in power who decides what is acceptable free speech.

If Joe Biden is a socialist, why does Wall Street prefer him over Trump?

 

[dev553344]

You don't believe in democracy if you think you have the right to decide who can run for office. That's how it's done in Iran. If you don't agree with the ruling party, you can't run for office. You want someone in power who decides what is acceptable free speech.

If Joe Biden is a socialist, why does Wall Street prefer him over Trump?

You're probably right, democracy allows for other government type to run for office, here I found this: (Socialist Party of America - Wikipedia) It shows that democrats are linked to socialists. Not that it is a good thing, but the people of the United States have the right to know the truth about your party. So if you're running as a democrat and are actually a socialist, then I believe being impeached is the correct action. Lying to get into office is impeachable.

 

[Giuliano]

You're probably right, democracy allows for other government type to run for office, here I found this: (Socialist Party of America - Wikipedia) It shows that democrats are linked to socialists. Not that it is a good thing, but the people of the United States have the right to know the truth about your party. So if you're running as a democrat and are actually a socialist, then I believe being impeached is the correct action. Lying to get into office is impeachable.

If you want to link the Democrats to socialism like that, then we'd have to link Donald Trump to the Neo-Nazis because some of them said they liked him. Come to think of it, his idea of nationalism is kinda similar to Hitler's nationalism. I don't find that kind of name-calling useful.

So why do Wall Street investment bankers like Biden? The National Examiner is conservative, by the way:

Story here: Investment bankers say a Biden victory could be great for Wall Street and stocks

Commercial banks support Biden: Industry Totals

Hedge funds and private equity funds do: Industry Totals