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brightfame52

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Being drawn means that they are given the ability to respond apart from the influence of the demonic or the fact that they were born dead in trespasses and sins.
Yes they have been given the ability because they are born again.
 

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Oh no they are born again.
We appear to be going in circles.

Unless you have scripture to back up your pov, we will have to agree to disagree.

Don't wait too long for the Father to arbitrarily choose you out of your state of being dead in trespasses and sins. Repent.
 

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We appear to be going in circles.

Unless you have scripture to back up your pov, we will have to agree to disagree.

Don't wait too long for the Father to arbitrarily choose you out of your state of being dead in trespasses and sins. Repent.
You lost me on that comment
 

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We appear to be going in circles.

Unless you have scripture to back up your pov, we will have to agree to disagree.

Don't wait too long for the Father to arbitrarily choose you out of your state of being dead in trespasses and sins. Repent.
I already gave my scripture. You are not paying attention. Drawing means newbirth of Spirit.
 

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You must be born again in order to repent. Repentance is a new change of mind and heart, that comes with new born again nature born of God!

You must repent in order to be born again.

The Lord will not regenerate man unless he becomes willing to give up his former lifestyle of sinning.

I already gave my scripture. You are not paying attention. Drawing means newbirth of Spirit.

Sorry, I don't backtrack when I am having a message board conversation because of Philippians 3:13. So unless you want to re-post your scripture, you have failed to convince me of your pov.

Drawing means being made able to come to faith in Jesus.
 
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Regeneration and born again were not mentioned in those passages. Nice try but a swing and a miss, Back to the plate for another swing at this jbf.
If you read the Bible according to the wording alone, you may miss what the Holy Ghost is wanting to say to you.

But if you meditate on the word (see Psalms 1), seeking to know what the Holy Spirit means by what He is saying, you will be taught by Him.
 

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If you read the Bible according to the wording alone, you may miss what the Holy Ghost is wanting to say to you.

But if you meditate on the word (see Psalms 1), seeking to know what the Holy Spirit means by what He is saying, you will be taught by Him.
You have a habit of always changing the subject instead of addressing the topic at hand.

I'm sorry but stick to the passages you claimed said what you believe which they didn't and you made it up.

You said regeneration required a person to give up a sinful lifestyle when regeneration was not once mentioned in these passage you quoted below.

Ezekiel 33:11-20, Matthew 3, Luke 13:1-5.


Regeneration and born again were not mentioned in those passages. Nice try but a swing and a miss, Back to the plate for another swing at this jbf.
 

justbyfaith

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You have a habit of always changing the subject instead of addressing the topic at hand.

I'm sorry but stick to the passages you claimed said what you believe which they didn't and you made it up.

You said regeneration required a person to give up a sinful lifestyle when regeneration was not once mentioned in these passage you quoted below.

Ezekiel 33:11-20, Matthew 3, Luke 13:1-5.


Regeneration and born again were not mentioned in those passages. Nice try but a swing and a miss, Back to the plate for another swing at this jbf.
Now if we are here engaging in debate, then by debate standards you may have won the argument.

But I would suggest to you that there is something more important than merely winning an argument; and that is that we receive from the Holy Ghost the true meaning of scripture.

Therefore I would suggest that you meditate on and think over the scriptures that I have presented to you and ask yourself if the meaning of those scriptures contains what I am saying about repentance.

Because sometimes you can miss the meaning because you are looking for exact words to say what your opponent in debate is saying to you. But when you look at the meaning of the words, you will find that the scriptures in question actually do say exactly what he is saying.
 

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You must repent in order to be born again.

The Lord will not regenerate man unless he becomes willing to give up his former lifestyle of sinning.



Sorry, I don't backtrack when I am having a message board conversation because of Philippians 3:13. So unless you want to re-post your scripture, you have failed to convince me of your pov.

Drawing means being made able to come to faith in Jesus.
You have it backwards as I already stated.