Killing in the name of (Smurfette)

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

amadeus

Well-Known Member
Jan 26, 2008
22,533
31,738
113
80
Oklahoma
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Don't try to be too good for your own good Amadeus. Is what the Bible says.
Striving to be good on our own won't get us to the good. Rather learning how to surrender completely to God while seeking first things first. But what are the first things to be? The Way up is down, but too people it seems have no sense of direction and don't know [or perhaps even want to know] which direction to turn and where or how to seek help.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ziggy

Entanglement

Active Member
Jul 15, 2020
377
74
28
50
Brisbane
Faith
Agnostic
Country
Australia
Striving to be good on our own won't get us to the good. Rather learning how to surrender completely to God while seeking first things first. But what are the first things to be? The Way up is down, but too people it seems have no sense of direction and don't know [or perhaps even want to know] which direction to turn and where or how to seek help.
"Surrender"

That's the optimal concept when accepting a belief. However by taking that type of approach to something you believe so strongly, the brain will log that particular belief as real sensory information. So what was just a belief turns into a reality, and as much as my research shows there may be no way for the mind of the believer ever letting that belief truth go.
 

amadeus

Well-Known Member
Jan 26, 2008
22,533
31,738
113
80
Oklahoma
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
"Surrender"

That's the optimal concept when accepting a belief. However by taking that type of approach to something you believe so strongly, the brain will log that particular belief as real sensory information. So what was just a belief turns into a reality, and as much as my research shows there may be no way for the mind of the believer ever letting that belief truth go.
The approach I take is the one God has shown me over a lifetime of years. The belief or faith in God will indeed leave a person in reality if he is continuously growing toward God. The very good things of God are the reality, God alone being good. Everything else is fiction although most people being dead believe they are living, but that is the fiction. The consuming fire will burn it all up so only that which is good remains.
 

Entanglement

Active Member
Jul 15, 2020
377
74
28
50
Brisbane
Faith
Agnostic
Country
Australia
The approach I take is the one God has shown me over a lifetime of years. The belief or faith in God will indeed leave a person in reality if he is continuously growing toward God. The very good things of God are the reality, God alone being good. Everything else is fiction although most people being dead believe they are living, but that is the fiction. The consuming fire will burn it all up so only that which is good remains.
It's your personal beliefs that speak to you, not God.
 

amadeus

Well-Known Member
Jan 26, 2008
22,533
31,738
113
80
Oklahoma
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
It's your personal beliefs that speak to you, not God.
People's ATs [absolute truths] get them into trouble as they walk ahead blindly:

"Where there is no vision, the people perish:" Prov 29:18

But there is a vision available to those who really desire to see and understand! A blurred vision is a starting place, but if properly directed a person may come to the "face to face" vision! Of course many or most people are always completely blind and walk on as it they were seeing.
 

Entanglement

Active Member
Jul 15, 2020
377
74
28
50
Brisbane
Faith
Agnostic
Country
Australia
What do you believe?
Did you read what I wrote? Just because people have become a custom to malforming sensory information to avoid their lack of knowledge, that does not mean there are better beliefs to be found.
 
Last edited:

Entanglement

Active Member
Jul 15, 2020
377
74
28
50
Brisbane
Faith
Agnostic
Country
Australia
People's ATs [absolute truths] get them into trouble as they walk ahead blindly:

"Where there is no vision, the people perish:" Prov 29:18

But there is a vision available to those who really desire to see and understand! A blurred vision is a starting place, but if properly directed a person may come to the "face to face" vision! Of course many or most people are always completely blind and walk on as it they were seeing.
Hosea 4:6 says: My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

@amadeus What really caused Adam and Eve to fall into sin and corruption.

A: Disobedience to God?
B: Believing the Serpent?
 

jaybird

Well-Known Member
Feb 29, 2016
1,595
559
113
You Christians are supposed to be united into one belief you (Edited by mod) moron.

who told you that? the bible says believers, at the time of Jesus, had many different opinions. imperial rome was the one that came along hundreds of years later and started killing people if they didnt all believe the exact way they told them to believe.
 
  • Like
Reactions: April_Rose

Ziggy

Well-Known Member
Oct 19, 2020
10,187
9,758
113
59
Maine, USA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Did you read what I wrote? Just because people have become a custom to malforming sensory information to avoid their lack of knowledge, that does not mean there are better beliefs to be found.
I'm not looking for a better belief.
I'm curious if you have one.
 
  • Like
Reactions: April_Rose

WaterSong

Well-Known Member
Nov 9, 2020
2,245
2,277
113
Kansas City
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
@Entanglement , You're listed on your profile as an Agnostic. That's better than Atheist. It means there is hope for you yet.
In the meantime, reading your language and attitude on just page one of this thread I'm reminded of where I think you get your playbook from in starting this thread.
God Is Hate: Trolling Christian Chat Rooms 101 (A how-to)
 

Ziggy

Well-Known Member
Oct 19, 2020
10,187
9,758
113
59
Maine, USA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Hosea 4:6 says: My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

@amadeus What really caused Adam and Eve to fall into sin and corruption.

A: Disobedience to God?
B: Believing the Serpent?
Lack of Faith
 

April_Rose

Well-Known Member
Sep 15, 2020
8,520
7,824
113
34
Ohio
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
You Christians are supposed to be united into one belief you (Edited by mod) moron.




It is very late and I'm getting ready for bed but considering you just insulted a friend of mine I had to come back here and say that you have some nerve calling him a moron when you come to a CHRISTIAN forum and start acting as rude and as insulting as you're being to members on this thread who just care about you and want to help you. (@lforrest, don't worry you're nowhere close to being a moron. :) )
 

Entanglement

Active Member
Jul 15, 2020
377
74
28
50
Brisbane
Faith
Agnostic
Country
Australia
It is very late and I'm getting ready for bed but considering you just insulted a friend of mine I had to come back here and say that you have some nerve calling him a moron when you come to a CHRISTIAN forum and start acting as rude and as insulting as you're being to members on this thread who just care about you and want to help you. (@lforrest, don't worry you're nowhere close to being a moron. :) )
Sleep well.
 
  • Like
Reactions: April_Rose

Entanglement

Active Member
Jul 15, 2020
377
74
28
50
Brisbane
Faith
Agnostic
Country
Australia
Well some people believe in science, others economics,

Ok, let me ask another way..
do you have any hobbies?
What do you like to do?
I recently download Dosbox (Dos OS emulator) for Android, and it is fast becoming a favourite hobby.
 

Sabertooth

Well-Known Member
Sep 17, 2019
1,203
1,129
113
62
Northern Wisconsin
transcendiary.blogspot.com
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I think. What is the real purpose behind the Christian preaching the gospel of Jesus? Why do they want me to accept Gods salvation so badly? Is to become like them? I think. Would their God really want me to believe like them? I can't say Yahweh would like me becoming like them. I think. If the Christian believes their God sets a high standard of conformity and self denial, then heaven will never be suitable for them
No. God wants you for yourself,* but you must be cleansed of the spiritual crap that you (all of us) were born into, just to stand in His presence; even just to receive a hug from Him.

He is ready, willing & able to so clean you, but you must ask Him to. He will not violate your choice in that matter. Death is not the desired outcome. It is the outcome if you don't deal with your most pressing issue.

*If we were interchangeable, He would not make a specific appeal just to you.

Jesus said,
What do you think?
If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them goes astray,

does he not leave the ninety-nine and go to the mountains to seek the one that is straying?
And if he should find it, assuredly, I say to you,
he rejoices more over that sheep than over the ninety-nine that did not go astray.
Even so it is not the will of your Father who is in heaven
that one of these little ones should perish." Matthew 18:12-14 NKJV​