For those who deny the Most Holy Trinity!

[theefaith]

He did if you wish to say he contradicted himself.

Thank you for proving my point. Peter didn't say, baptize in the name of the father, son, holy spirit, there.

That's a lie. Not even the scripture says that. You're really stretching now.


You just contradicted yourself. False teaching math is the only math formula from whence one equals three.
God is God. God , all scripture now, is holy. God is spirit. Jesus was/is God. Jesus wasn't a separate person. Jesus was begat upon Mary by God! God creates all things that exist of and from himself. Jesus was God, just as Jesus stated numerous times in his ministry. When you're one with the one you're not a second or third person. And spirit? Is not person! God is a spirit, the holy spirit. That indwells the Christian the moment they are saved. How's that happen? Because we're like everything else that exists anywhere at all. We're created of and from GOD! Who is one!
See, Christianity is a Monotheistic faith!
Not a Polytheistic one.
You are free to accept Polytheism. Don't think you'll lead me to follow.
Baptize in the name of God. You don't get it. The angel gave Mary the name of God on earth before he was born to deliver his grace through his new covenant. EMMANUEL! God with us! God with us was Jesus the Christ. Jesus the anointed!

I and my father are one!

As is truth forever. When the false teaching that is Trinity has a date hundreds of years after Jesus departed to heaven, we know it is a man made construct. And it is. It is of pagan origin. Polytheistic origin.
Jesus never taught the Trinity. Why? Because as God he knew it did not exist. He told us so in the old testament.

The one verse that shuts down the pagan Polytheists Triune false teaching? This one:
I, only I, am the Lord, And there is no savior besides Me. Isaiah 43:11(NASB)


Isaiah 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is no other; there is no God but Me.

these verses refer to nature not persons

do you believe in the hypostatic Union?
Jesus is both fully God and fully man?

I don’t care when a doctrine was defined, it’s still the truth and part of the deposit of faith one handed by Christ to the saints jude1:3

example
The assumption of Mary ever Virgin mother of God was not defined until 1950

but always part of thee faith with a feast day celebration every year on the 15th of august since ancient times

 

[theefaith]

He did if you wish to say he contradicted himself.

Thank you for proving my point. Peter didn't say, baptize in the name of the father, son, holy spirit, there.

That's a lie. Not even the scripture says that. You're really stretching now.


You just contradicted yourself. False teaching math is the only math formula from whence one equals three.
God is God. God , all scripture now, is holy. God is spirit. Jesus was/is God. Jesus wasn't a separate person. Jesus was begat upon Mary by God! God creates all things that exist of and from himself. Jesus was God, just as Jesus stated numerous times in his ministry. When you're one with the one you're not a second or third person. And spirit? Is not person! God is a spirit, the holy spirit. That indwells the Christian the moment they are saved. How's that happen? Because we're like everything else that exists anywhere at all. We're created of and from GOD! Who is one!
See, Christianity is a Monotheistic faith!
Not a Polytheistic one.
You are free to accept Polytheism. Don't think you'll lead me to follow.
Baptize in the name of God. You don't get it. The angel gave Mary the name of God on earth before he was born to deliver his grace through his new covenant. EMMANUEL! God with us! God with us was Jesus the Christ. Jesus the anointed!

I and my father are one!

As is truth forever. When the false teaching that is Trinity has a date hundreds of years after Jesus departed to heaven, we know it is a man made construct. And it is. It is of pagan origin. Polytheistic origin.
Jesus never taught the Trinity. Why? Because as God he knew it did not exist. He told us so in the old testament.

The one verse that shuts down the pagan Polytheists Triune false teaching? This one:
I, only I, am the Lord, And there is no savior besides Me. Isaiah 43:11(NASB)


Isaiah 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is no other; there is no God but Me.

faith of the fathers
The ancient faith of the apostles
Acts 2:42
Nicene Creed!

We believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only Son of God,
begotten from the Father before all ages,
God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made; one in being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven; he became incarnate by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, and was made man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate; he suffered and was buried. The third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures. He ascended to heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again with glory to judge the living and the dead. His kingdom will never end.

And we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life. He proceeds from the Father and the Son, and with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified. He spoke through the prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic church. We affirm one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look forward to the resurrection of the dead,
and to life in the world to come. Amen.

 

[WaterSong]

these verses refer to nature not persons

do you believe in the hypostatic Union?
Jesus is both fully God and fully man?

I don’t care when a doctrine was defined, it’s still the truth and part of the deposit of faith one handed by Christ to the saints jude1:3

example
The assumption of Mary ever Virgin mother of God was not defined until 1950

but always part of thee faith with a feast day celebration every year on the 15th of august since ancient times

Yes, I know of the term Hypostatic Union.
Are you not aware all that exists is of and from God? OF, and from God. Do you imagine Jesus was a unique manifestation? All that exists is of and from God. God is in all that exists because all that exists exists because of The Creator of it. And what does God the creator create from? Himself! That holy eternal spirit.

Jeremiah 23:23“Am I only a God nearby,” declares the LORD, “and not a God far away?” 24“Can a man hide in secret places where I cannot see him?” declares the LORD.“Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?” declares the LORD.

John 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. 4In Him was life, and that life was the light of men.

For since the creation of the world his invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead (Romans 1:20)

Romans 11:36 For of him, and through him, and unto him, are all things. To him be the glory for ever. Amen.

Ephesians 4:4There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

From the Catholic Bible:
Ecclesiasticus43:29 We can say much, and yet still lack for words. But the consummation of our words is this: He is in all things.

Believe as you wish. I take God at his word.

 

[WaterSong]

faith of the fathers
The ancient faith of the apostles
Acts 2:42
Nicene Creed!

We believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only Son of God,
begotten from the Father before all ages,
God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made; one in being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven; he became incarnate by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary, and was made man. He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate; he suffered and was buried. The third day he rose again, according to the Scriptures. He ascended to heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again with glory to judge the living and the dead. His kingdom will never end.

And we believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life. He proceeds from the Father and the Son, and with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified. He spoke through the prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic church. We affirm one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look forward to the resurrection of the dead,
and to life in the world to come. Amen.

What Apostle wrote that?

 

[theefaith]

What Apostle wrote that?

the apostolic fathers (successors) of the apostles and authority by the pope (successor of saint peter) with the power to bind upon all believers and the authority of the keys

the same kingdom authority and power that the successors of Moses had in matt 23

Matt 23 why does Jesus say to obey the successors of Moses?

The successors of Moses sit in the chair of Moses having the authority of the keys and the power to bind and loose Matt 23 and Jesus commanded them to be obeyed! Then the kingdom was taken from them matt 21:43 and given to Peter, Matt 16:18 the apostles, Matt 18:18 and their successors with the authority of the keys and the power to bind and lose!

Jesus said to obey the authority of the successors of Moses mt 23 authority of the keys and power to bind and loose and this power and authority was taken from them matt and given by Christ to Peter, the apostles and their successors, mt 16:18 18:18 this same authority and power must be obeyed!

mt 28:18-20 all authority is given to Peter, the apostles, and their successors requiring obedience, rom 1:5 obedience to the faith!
And Jesus say to Peter, the apostles, and their successors: behold I am with you even until the end of the world!!!
So the apostles have to remain until the end! Revelation 5:10
And hast made us unto our God kings and Priests: and we shall reign on the earth. Reign with kingdom authority (keys) power (bind loose) matt 16:18

 

[WaterSong]

the apostolic fathers (successors) of the apostles and authority by the pope (successor of saint peter) with the power to bind upon all believers and the authority of the keys

the same kingdom authority and power that the successors of Moses had in matt 23

Matt 23 why does Jesus say to obey the successors of Moses?

The successors of Moses sit in the chair of Moses having the authority of the keys and the power to bind and loose Matt 23 and Jesus commanded them to be obeyed! Then the kingdom was taken from them matt 21:43 and given to Peter, Matt 16:18 the apostles, Matt 18:18 and their successors with the authority of the keys and the power to bind and lose!

Jesus said to obey the authority of the successors of Moses mt 23 authority of the keys and power to bind and loose and this power and authority was taken from them matt and given by Christ to Peter, the apostles and their successors, mt 16:18 18:18 this same authority and power must be obeyed!

mt 28:18-20 all authority is given to Peter, the apostles, and their successors requiring obedience, rom 1:5 obedience to the faith!
And Jesus say to Peter, the apostles, and their successors: behold I am with you even until the end of the world!!!
So the apostles have to remain until the end! Revelation 5:10
And hast made us unto our God kings and Priests: and we shall reign on the earth. Reign with kingdom authority (keys) power (bind loose) matt 16:18

That's your choice of faith to follow.
There was no pope in Jesus' teachings. There is no pope that followed Peter! The Pope is celibate, Peter was married. And Peter's successor was not the head of a church founded hundreds of years after Peter passed on.

• Jesus never ever taught veneration of Mary. Thus, nor did his Apostles where were first his Disciples, students, taught The Way by Christ himself.

• Jesus never ever taught his mother Mary would be co-redemptrix.

• Jesus never taught infant baptism, and Jesus, by example, taught immersion baptism. Not sprinkling upon the forehead while the infant is held over the baptismal font.

• Jesus never alluded to nor taught about a place called Limbo. He never alluded to nor taught, nor did his Apostles, a place called Purgatory. And he sure never taught about Indulgences, paying off the church for "early release" from Purgatory.

• Jesus never once taught to establish in his absence after his return to heaven, the "office of the pope".

• Jesus nor his Apostles taught to venerate the dead, to keep pieces of them and call them holy relics. And he never taught that the dead would, when prayed to, would act as intercessors between the faithful and himself/God. That's Necromancy! And is contrary to all that God taught.

• Jesus never taught to venerate members of the church by erecting idols in their image and likeness, nor did he teach to pray to them to intercede, again, on behalf of the faithful. Instead Jesus taught, there is one mediator between us and God and that is Jesus Christ.1 Timothy 2:5 Jesus Christ sits at the right hand of the father. Which, is symbolic, not reality. Some believe Jesus is flesh and blood, but that is not true. We're told by Paul, the perishable cannot inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15.

The Catholic church is the edifice of the antithesis of Christ and his teachings. It is Satanic . It is also a conflation of pagan Roman polytheism, and pagan Roman governance. The office of pope is Caesar. The college of Cardinals the Senate. Ancient Rome established Pontiffs in 722A.D.
You imagine Peter was the first pope? The church calls him errant in his teachings. How can the office of the infallible be wrong?
[sic]"...The infallibility of the Pope is a central Catholic doctrine. Yet the doctrine of “Pope Peter” was flawed. Had this doctrinal error continued, circumcision would be a requirement for male believers today. Concerning this error, Paul wrote, “When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong.” (Galatians 2:11) " Papal Authority | A Biblical view of Roman Catholic Doctrine

If you want to be right, leave the Catholic church.
Catholic in scripture translates to, Universal. The Catholic church is not that. The pope has said, and it is church doctrine, the only way to salvation is through the Catholic church. Veneration of the church, not God, is blasphemy, idolatry, and damnation.

I know you'll feel led to argue. I won't do that. The truth speaks for itself through God's word.

I pray, sincerely, you come to the truth while you still have time.
Jesus Christ did not establish the Catholic church!

Peter was not a pope. Peter did not give his office to nor establish the office of the pope, who blasphemes God by the very existence of himself and his office, thinking he is infallible, and represents Christ himself on the throne. He's not.
The one seated now and all those through its history will find that out and for all eternity. Especially those like unto pope Pius XII! Known as Hitler's pope. He did not excommunicate Adolf, nor did he excommunicate a one of the Nazi's, who were all Catholic.
Some Catholics think Pius XII was the last true pope anointed by God. Pius himself proved that is not true. Unless of course God is Antisemitic.

[sic]..."The false doctrine of Roman Catholic papal infallibility. If Peter was the first pope then: Why was Paul was equal to Peter: "Actually I should have been commended by you, for in no respect was I inferior to the most eminent apostles, even though I am a nobody." 2 Corinthians 12:11..."
The False doctrine of Roman Catholic papal infallibility

 

[101G]

bingo? Are you catholic? Lol

Roman catholic, no..... lol..... YIKES!

Trinity
Duet 32:6

lets take this one step at a time....
so how is Duet 32:6 a trinity?

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[theefaith]

That's your choice of faith to follow.
There was no pope in Jesus' teachings. There is no pope that followed Peter! The Pope is celibate, Peter was married. And Peter's successor was not the head of a church founded hundreds of years after Peter passed on.

• Jesus never ever taught veneration of Mary. Thus, nor did his Apostles where were first his Disciples, students, taught The Way by Christ himself.

• Jesus never ever taught his mother Mary would be co-redemptrix.

• Jesus never taught infant baptism, and Jesus, by example, taught immersion baptism. Not sprinkling upon the forehead while the infant is held over the baptismal font.

• Jesus never alluded to nor taught about a place called Limbo. He never alluded to nor taught, nor did his Apostles, a place called Purgatory. And he sure never taught about Indulgences, paying off the church for "early release" from Purgatory.

• Jesus never once taught to establish in his absence after his return to heaven, the "office of the pope".

• Jesus nor his Apostles taught to venerate the dead, to keep pieces of them and call them holy relics. And he never taught that the dead would, when prayed to, would act as intercessors between the faithful and himself/God. That's Necromancy! And is contrary to all that God taught.

• Jesus never taught to venerate members of the church by erecting idols in their image and likeness, nor did he teach to pray to them to intercede, again, on behalf of the faithful. Instead Jesus taught, there is one mediator between us and God and that is Jesus Christ.1 Timothy 2:5 Jesus Christ sits at the right hand of the father. Which, is symbolic, not reality. Some believe Jesus is flesh and blood, but that is not true. We're told by Paul, the perishable cannot inherit the imperishable. 1 Corinthians 15.

The Catholic church is the edifice of the antithesis of Christ and his teachings. It is Satanic . It is also a conflation of pagan Roman polytheism, and pagan Roman governance. The office of pope is Caesar. The college of Cardinals the Senate. Ancient Rome established Pontiffs in 722A.D.
You imagine Peter was the first pope? The church calls him errant in his teachings. How can the office of the infallible be wrong?
[sic]"...The infallibility of the Pope is a central Catholic doctrine. Yet the doctrine of “Pope Peter” was flawed. Had this doctrinal error continued, circumcision would be a requirement for male believers today. Concerning this error, Paul wrote, “When Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he was clearly in the wrong.” (Galatians 2:11) " Papal Authority | A Biblical view of Roman Catholic Doctrine

If you want to be right, leave the Catholic church.
Catholic in scripture translates to, Universal. The Catholic church is not that. The pope has said, and it is church doctrine, the only way to salvation is through the Catholic church. Veneration of the church, not God, is blasphemy, idolatry, and damnation.

I know you'll feel led to argue. I won't do that. The truth speaks for itself through God's word.

I pray, sincerely, you come to the truth while you still have time.
Jesus Christ did not establish the Catholic church!

Peter was not a pope. Peter did not give his office to nor establish the office of the pope, who blasphemes God by the very existence of himself and his office, thinking he is infallible, and represents Christ himself on the throne. He's not.
The one seated now and all those through its history will find that out and for all eternity. Especially those like unto pope Pius XII! Known as Hitler's pope. He did not excommunicate Adolf, nor did he excommunicate a one of the Nazi's, who were all Catholic.
Some Catholics think Pius XII was the last true pope anointed by God. Pius himself proved that is not true. Unless of course God is Antisemitic.

[sic]..."The false doctrine of Roman Catholic papal infallibility. If Peter was the first pope then: Why was Paul was equal to Peter: "Actually I should have been commended by you, for in no respect was I inferior to the most eminent apostles, even though I am a nobody." 2 Corinthians 12:11..."
The False doctrine of Roman Catholic papal infallibility

celibacy is a matter of discipline not doctrine and therefore can be changed
In the early church only monks were celibate, but that changed
Get back with the other subject you proposed

 

[theefaith]

Roman catholic, no..... lol..... YIKES!


lets take this one step at a time....
so how is Duet 32:6 a trinity?

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

why do you keep saying bingo?

yes the father is God

 

[theefaith]

why do you keep saying bingo?

yes the father is God

Step two:
Apostles creed!
Nicene creed!
Athanasius creed!
??? Holy apostolic teaching of the ancient faith of the apostles that we are commanded to believe
Acts 2:42

 

[101G]

why do you keep saying bingo?

yes the father is God

and the Son is God, but it's the same person only diversified, the BIBLE...

now answer me this threefaiths, is not JESUS the first and the Last? if not, please explain. and if so, (which he is), then tell us is this one person or two... listen carefully, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." so is this one person or two?, remember the "First is "with" the Last, as the Word is "with" God in John 1:1.

your answer please.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[theefaith]

and the Son is God, but it's the same person only diversified, the BIBLE...

now answer me this threefaiths, is not JESUS the first and the Last? if not, please explain. and if so, (which he is), then tell us is this one person or two... listen carefully, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." so is this one person or two?, remember the "First is "with" the Last, as the Word is "with" God in John 1:1.

your answer please.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

my name is mark if it helps
Not refering to a person but the beginning and the end
Creation and the second coming

 

[101G]

Not refering to a person

error, Revelation 22:13 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."

that's a PERSON, you want to try again?

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[theefaith]

error, Revelation 22:13 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last."

that's a PERSON, you want to try again?

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

you did not give me that verse
The divine nature is eternal

 

[101G]

you did not give me that verse
The divine nature is eternal

you answered, "Not refering to a person" I just showed you it is a PERSON. it's in the BIBLE, is it not in your creeds?

you have no clue that the ORDINAL FIRST is a PERSON, and the ORDINAL LAST is a PERSON, just the same ONE PERSON, is that not in your CREED, well it's in the Bible.... and I have proof by scriptures

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[theefaith]

you answered, "Not refering to a person" I just showed you it is a PERSON. it's in the BIBLE, is it not in your creeds?

you have no clue that the ORDINAL FIRST is a PERSON, and the ORDINAL LAST is a PERSON, just the same ONE PERSON, is that not in your CREED, well it's in the Bible.... and I have proof by scriptures

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

I Know matt 16:18 and 18:18
And the apostles bind on earth and in heaven the most holy trinity one God three persons and the apostles taught it including saints Augustine and Patrick

 

[101G]

I Know matt 16:18 and 18:18
And the apostles bind on earth and in heaven the most holy trinity one God three persons and the apostles taught it including saints Augustine and Patrick

what you know is NOTHING, listen tp the persaon... one person.
Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he."

see how the First is “With” the Last, and he said that it was he, a single person designation. now watch this, Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." is that two persons? no. notice he said, also? yes, the First Person is the Last Person, lets break it down for you, Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" ONE LORD, not one God…. (smile). and the LORD Is one person who is God. here in Deuteronomy 6:4 the First person, is the ORDINAL FIRST PERSON, listen, H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj. 1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

there the LORD is, the First Person, the almighty, scripture, Genesis 17:1 "And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect."

so the LORD all caps is the almighty, now the Last person, 1 Corinthians 15:45 "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit." the Last Person here, is the Lord, and the term Last, G2078 ἔσχατος eschatos (es'-cha-tos) adj.
farthest, final (of place or time).
[a superlative probably from G2192 (in the sense of contiguity)]
KJV: ends of, last, latter end, lowest, uttermost
Root(s): G2192

and get this, the Last Adam is the Lord who is the Almighty, Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." BINGO.

well threefaith, the bible say that the LORD all caps is the almighty, and the Lord is the almighty, but the bible say it's the same one person. do your creeds say this? yes, the LORD/Father/the Ordinal First, and the Lord/Son/the Ordinal Last is the same one person. other words the Father is "ALSO" the Son as Isaiah 48:12 states. else, you have two almighties... and that polytheism, better know as the doctrine with three persons in the Godhead. is, it just have an extra God in it.............. YIKES!

see, if you knew "'WHO", the ORDINAL First and ORDINAL Last was then your creeds would not lie to you. get rid of your creeds and get the Holy Ghost with your bible and leave those creeds alone.

now when you get the knowledge of the ordinal First & Last, then get back with me..... ok.

remember my motto, "where there is knowledge, stay not ignorant" and if you're ignorant, go to God and ask for his wisdom.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

the Bible does say many times
Eph 4:5 one faith
Jn 10:16 on church
Titus 2
But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine: That the aged men be sober, grave, temperate, sound in faith, in charity, in patience. The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things; ...

1. 1 Timothy 1:10
   For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sounddoctrine;
   
   your Protestant rebellion follows
   
   
2. 2 Timothy 4:3
   For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;[/Quote\]
3. These scriptures proves the unity of the church not a Trinity. I don't know which you were trying to prove

 

[theefaith]

what you know is NOTHING, listen tp the persaon... one person.
Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he."

see how the First is “With” the Last, and he said that it was he, a single person designation. now watch this, Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." is that two persons? no. notice he said, also? yes, the First Person is the Last Person, lets break it down for you, Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" ONE LORD, not one God…. (smile). and the LORD Is one person who is God. here in Deuteronomy 6:4 the First person, is the ORDINAL FIRST PERSON, listen, H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj. 1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258

there the LORD is, the First Person, the almighty, scripture, Genesis 17:1 "And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect."

so the LORD all caps is the almighty, now the Last person, 1 Corinthians 15:45 "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit." the Last Person here, is the Lord, and the term Last, G2078 ἔσχατος eschatos (es'-cha-tos) adj.
farthest, final (of place or time).
[a superlative probably from G2192 (in the sense of contiguity)]
KJV: ends of, last, latter end, lowest, uttermost
Root(s): G2192

and get this, the Last Adam is the Lord who is the Almighty, Revelation 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." BINGO.

well threefaith, the bible say that the LORD all caps is the almighty, and the Lord is the almighty, but the bible say it's the same one person. do your creeds say this? yes, the LORD/Father/the Ordinal First, and the Lord/Son/the Ordinal Last is the same one person. other words the Father is "ALSO" the Son as Isaiah 48:12 states. else, you have two almighties... and that polytheism, better know as the doctrine with three persons in the Godhead. is, it just have an extra God in it.............. YIKES!

see, if you knew "'WHO", the ORDINAL First and ORDINAL Last was then your creeds would not lie to you. get rid of your creeds and get the Holy Ghost with your bible and leave those creeds alone.

now when you get the knowledge of the ordinal First & Last, then get back with me..... ok.

remember my motto, "where there is knowledge, stay not ignorant" and if you're ignorant, go to God and ask for his wisdom.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

do we need to be instructed by Christ thru the apostles Lk 1:1-4 matt 16:18???

 

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do we need to be instructed by Christ thru the apostles Lk 1:1-4 matt 16:18???

well lets see, Ephesians 4:11 "And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;"
Ephesians 4:12 "For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:"

but one need basic instruction first. John 14:26 "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."

how many things to TEACH us? that's right .... ALL THINGS. because MEN DO LIE.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"