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Staying in communion with Jesus, by trusting in His complete and total reconciliation, this is what saves me from sin, is more the way I think.
our FAITH, keeps un in that saving grace, Romans 8:24 "For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?"Romans 8:25 "But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it."
what is HOPE? answer... FAITH.. supportive scripture, Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." BINGO.

I think the flesh remains unchanged, is hopelessly ruined by sin. Changing bad habits for good habits is good, of course, but we don't negate the lusts of the flesh by efforts in self-improvement.

I think rather that Christ in me is my sanctification. So by faith I live the life of Christ, and in Christ is no sin.
that's right, the body returns to the dust from whence it came, for the pruches priice was not for the body/flesh but the soul. we get new bodies. scripture, 1 Corinthians 15:35 "But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?"
1 Corinthians 15:36 "Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:"
1 Corinthians 15:37 "And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:"
1 Corinthians 15:38 "But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body." BINGO.

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ARE you sure?, lets see if this is true.

yes Paul and John Mark reconcicle, 2 Timothy 4:11 "Only Luke is with me. Take Mark, and bring him with thee: for he is profitable to me for the ministry." BINGO.

but what about Barnabas, it goes the same if I reconcicle with the one I had the problem with A. surely B. is reconciled also, if not then Christ is NOT IN HIM. lets see. Paul speaks of Barnabas in his letter to the Corinthians in 1Corinthians 9:5 & 6, and also of him in Colossians 4:10... "AFTER" their split. NOW IF PAUL RECONCILED WITH JOHN MARK AND NOT WITH BARNABAS, then Paul would be a hypocrite, and why should we follow him.

but we we suggest you check out, Biblical Hermeneutics, here's the link... Was Barnabas ever reconciled to Paul?

so your assessment is reproved.

Remember, Don't argue with 101G, argue with the scriptures, God Holy Word.

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Saboteur is right!

@Behold posted,

The NT does not tell us if Barnabas ever got it back together

I'm sorry, but no where do you point to a place in the NT that tells us whether "Paul and Barnabas ever got it back together". We may well surmise that they did, but that's not what you are "so your assessment is reproved"-ing.

I guess this means now you have been reproved?

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no problem, just and paste,"Text as is"..... BINGO, all, The fonts, the colors, the bulky paragraphs, all gone".... :rolleyes: YIKES! so now you have no excuse.

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Hey, I'm just sayin' . . . if you want to be read . . . it's up to you.

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2. The reference to meats in Hebrews 13:9 is not about this, but about the "sin" of eating unclean foods; a different thing, and not an analogy at all. To twist things around to make it appear as if these two teachings are somehow related and interchangeable is to do the word a great disservice, and as a teacher you know you have a responsibility before God not to do this.

Myself, I don't see that.

Hebrews 13:9-10
9) Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.
10) We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.


This is about Jesus being the final sacrifice. The only eating named here is the partaking of the offering.

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I'm sorry, but no where do you point to a place in the NT that tells us whether "Paul and Barnabas ever got it back together". We may well surmise that they did, but that's not what you are "so your assessment is reproved"-ing.

I guess this means now you have been reproved?
Mark, many just don't read and understand their bible. in the 1Corinthians 9:5 & 6 scripture, they are in the minstry or work of the Lord together. so did the bible lie when it said, Amos 3:3 "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?"

if they was still in disagreement concering John Mark neither the 1Corinthians 9:5 & 6 nor the Colossians letter would have any validity in them.

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what is HOPE? answer... FAITH..
Actually, our "hope" is the expected outcome of our faith.

We trust that Jesus is telling us the truth. We have faith in Him. He tells us He will raise us from the dead. We have the hope of the resurrection.

Because we believe Jesus, we expect what He says to come to pass. This is how Biblical "hope" is more than the wistful longing as the word is used today.

The more firm our faith in God, the more firm our expectation for what He's promised.

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Mark, many just don't read and understand their bible.
So true! And many read it and don't understand it. Some read it and twist it to their own destruction.

You may well surmise something from what you read, you may be correct, and I might agree, but you said the fellow was wrong, and he said the NT didn't say it.

So in fact, you surmise, but, the NT doesn't say it, and he's not wrong, and you are now pushing the point to make it seem otherwise, so, why?

"the saboteur"? I'm seeing it.

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So true! And many read it and don't understand it. Some read it and twist it to their own destruction.

You may well surmise something from what you read, but you said the fellow was wrong, and he said the NT didn't say it. So, the NT doesn't say it, and he's not wrong, and you are now pushing the point to make it seem otherwise, so, why?

"the saboteur"? I'm seeing it.

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one scripture, Romans 15:4 "For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope."

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one scripture, Romans 15:4 "For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope."

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How does this answer my question? Or was that what you meant?

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How does this answer my question? Or was that what you meant?

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It's in the NT, but his eyes are closed.
understand the the old Saboteur, the OT is the NT hidden, and the NT is the OT revealed.

in order to understand and KNOW the new testament, one need to know the OT. see in the new testamen it says it already, but he did not see it,
Romans 16:17 "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."

1 Corinthians 1:10 "Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment."

here "division" both in the ministry, and social setting. for division here, social is,
G1370 διχοστασία dichostasia (d̮iy-cho-sta-siy'-a) n.
1. disunion.
2. (figuratively) dissension.
[from a derivative of G1364 and G4714]
KJV: division, sedition
Root(s): G1364, G4714

dissension is, disagreement that leads to discord. see, it's in the NT, but he didn't see, because it's hidden from his eyes, but the Amos 3:3 clearly shows it to him.


so by reading the OT, one can understand the NT.

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It's in the NT, but his eyes are closed.
But it's not. Again, you surmise this, I expect rightly, from other passages. But you pick this as a point to impugn @Behold over. And you are not correct about this. And you continue to insist. Yet that quote does not exist.

So what's this about who's eyes?

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nothing marks, just leave it alone.

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Shut up and go away?

We've been hearing that more these days!

Fault someone incorrectly, make negative statements about them personally, and when called on it, well, we all have our different ways.

Will I now be the one called divisive? For pointing to this?

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our FAITH, keeps un in that saving grace,
Here's an interesting thing . . .

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Romans 5:2
By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

"We have" here is in the Perfect Tense, which is to say, Having been justified by faith, by that same faith we permanently have access to the grace in which we stand.

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Shut up and go away?

We've been hearing that more these days!

Fault someone incorrectly, make negative statements about them personally, and when called on it, well, we all have our different ways.

Will I now be the one called divisive? For pointing to this?

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if you didn't understand what I said, then stay ignorant also. to mend something that one party cannot understand is useless to contuine. did I say go away? no I said leave it alone, arguing about something even you yourself cannot see, is redundant. now if you want to be as Paul was, go ahead..... you re on your own........ :eek: YIKES!. see that Amos 3:3 is right now in effect.
Fault someone incorrectly? how? when I clearly explain it, but I see your eyes are cloudy.

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Here's an interesting thing . . .

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Romans 5:2
By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.

"We have" here is in the Perfect Tense, which is to say, Having been justified by faith, by that same faith we permanently have access to the grace in which we stand.

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Now read Post #122 again.

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Myself, I don't see that.

Hebrews 13:9-10
9) Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.
10) We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat which serve the tabernacle.

This is about Jesus being the final sacrifice. The only eating named here is the partaking of the offering.

Come on, bud. Verse 10 is followed with:

11 For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp. 12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. 13 Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach. 14 For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.

Hebrews was written to Jewish believers about what true righteousness was; here he was differentiating between a righteousness by faith vs. a righteousness by keeping Jewish food laws.
 

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Come on, bud. Verse 10 is followed with:

11 For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp. 12 Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. 13 Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach. 14 For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.

Hebrews was written to Jewish believers about what true righteousness was; here he was differentiating between a righteousness by faith vs. a righteousness by keeping Jewish food laws.
Well c'mon bud yourself . . . ;)

Where does it say this is dietary law?

Different sacrifices . . . some shared in fellowship, eaten together with God, but the sin offering is burned outside, and that's where we go, Outside. But we eat from an altar that they cannot.

They have their offerings and sacrifices, we don't share them, but they don't share ours.

I don't see anything here about dietary law, but I do see the illustration of the supremecy of Christ over the Levitical system. Which is the theme to Hebrews as I see it.

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