The common denominator

[justbyfaith]

You (or I) cannot BY ANY MEANS even <fulfil the Law>, what <<fullfill the righteousness of the law>>. If anyone could do it Christ would be dispensable and superfluous. But your wisdom is just typical of <<holy spirit in me>> people-- foolishness with God.

That the Holy Spirit can dwell in us is evident in Galatians 3:14, 2 Timothy 1:14, Romans 5:5.

That the righteousness of the law can be fulfilled in us through the Holy Ghost is evident in Romans 13:8-10, Galatians 5:14, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, and Romans 8:4; + Romans 5:5.

 

[justbyfaith]

If anyone could do it Christ would be dispensable and superfluous.

We cannot fulfill the law without Christ (John 15:1-8).

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Sure we do, if we have come to Christ by faith (Galatians 3:14). At least, I know that I do.

If the Father drew not a person to Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit BEFORE he ever <<come to Christ by faith>> he has come nowhere—he did not move one inch.

 

[justbyfaith]

If the Father drew not a person to Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit BEFORE he ever <<come to Christ by faith>> he has not moved nowhere not one an inch.

Your statement did not register in my mind for some reason.

But I feel led to say to you that it seems to me that you are resisting the Holy Spirit; in that He is knocking on the door of your heart (Revelation 3:20) and you don't want to let Him in: and you justify that by saying that He does not come to dwell within human beings.

I'm here to tell you that He does, in fact, dwell within human hearts (2 Timothy 1:14) and that you can receive Him by faith (Galatians 3:14); even the love of the Lord can be shed abroad in your heart (Romans 5:5) so that the righteousness of the law can be fulfilled in you (Romans 13:8-10, Galatians 5:14, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, Romans 8:4).

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

We cannot fulfill the law without Christ (John 15:1-8).

Yes! READ: <<We can not fulfil the Law>> with nor without Christ. He is his own Fulfiller of the Law, He, as "the only Law-Giver". You nor I give orders. We can't even take an order, what fulfil it.
Rather "ASK the Father and the FATHER shall do it for you".

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

But I feel led to say to you that it seems to me that you are resisting the Holy Spirit; in that He is knocking on the door of your heart (Revelation 3:20) and you don't want to let Him in: and you justify that by saying that He does not come to dwell within human beings.

Great expectation00 I have been waiting for this, I was absolutely sure it was coming my way. All doubts removed now. Confirmed Scripture resisted ALSO bears fruit!

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

He is saying that the person who has been born of God has made a 180-degree turn away from sin and towards righteousness; so that he now commits sins less and less and may even have come to the point where he doesn't sin any longer.

I noticed the word I usually shall have used after something like this gets removed by a moderator.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

That the Holy Spirit can dwell in us is evident in Galatians 3:14, 2 Timothy 1:14, Romans 5:5.

That the righteousness of the law can be fulfilled in us through the Holy Ghost is evident in Romans 13:8-10, Galatians 5:14, 1 John 5:3, 2 John 1:6, and Romans 8:4; + Romans 5:5.

For heavens' sake have it your way for yourself and leave me alone, <I choose> to be a sinner rather! ...holy samoosas!

 

[friend of]

You like me have nothing. We do not HAVE the Holy Ghost.

And what do you mean with, <according to the Spirit> in <<If you have the Holy Ghost you will walk according to the Spirit>>? Another, or, the same <Holy Ghost .. you have..>? In the circle that you argue, maybe. Now that, to me, is something I <am having trouble understanding>, forgive me.

John 14:26 disagrees with you.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

In the above exchange in posts, the THREE STAGES in which the common denominator unfolds and exposes itself, are clearly distinguished...
The common denominator..
..in all heresy, antinomianism, humanism, liberalism, Catholicism, Sabbath-hate garble,
et al,
is not only free-will choice, but primarily and dominantly a false,

1. Holy Scripture abusing,

2. satanic,

3. Anti-christ - Roman Catholic,

demonic <Spirit in me>, claimed haughtily and defiantly to be the Spirit of Christ, God’s Holy Spirit.

 

[dev553344]

In the above exchange in posts, the THREE STAGES in which the common denominator unfolds and exposes itself, are clearly distinguished...
The common denominator..
..in all heresy, antinomianism, humanism, liberalism, Catholicism, Sabbath-hate garble,
et al,
is not only free-will choice, but primarily and dominantly a false,

1. Holy Scripture abusing,

2. satanic,

3. Anti-christ - Roman Catholic,

demonic <Spirit in me>, claimed haughtily and defiantly to be the Spirit of Christ, God’s Holy Spirit.

We already have a pattern to tell who is the anti-christ and demon spirit. What you're doing is in my opinion looking for devils instead of looking for the good in a person, which is an error of many false prophets and false teachers:

1 John 4:2-4

2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:


3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.


4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

We already have a pattern to tell who is the anti-christ and demon spirit. What you're doing is in my opinion looking for devils instead of looking for the good in a person, which is an error of many false prophets and false teachers:

The Scriptures and GOD in the Scriptures declare there is NOT ONE with good in him, speaking of false prophets and false teachers. Or of demon spirits. They flourish and swarm in their myriads all over as in every human heart.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

We already have a pattern to tell who is the anti-christ and demon spirit. What you're doing is in my opinion looking for devils instead of looking for the good in a person, which is an error of many false prophets and false teachers:

1 John 4:2-4

2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:


3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.


4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Presumption!

"Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them"-- the many demon-spirits that are of antichrist" -- not because YOUR BIG MOUTH is great, but because He, Christ that is in you as among you (the DISCIPLES, not any presumptuous), is greater than he that is in the world>> the devil in everyone.

Now you boast the spirit of YOU that CLAIMS (never mind confesses) that the spirit is come in YOUR flesh and "in the spirit" -- the spirit that is yours.
But God is not your prisoner, your inmate-- He is free in Himself.

 

[JohnDB]

I do find it fascinating that during Jesus' temptation...Satan used scriptures the whole time.

Apparently Satan twists scriptures.

And does this relate somehow with people teaching others a wrong interpretation of scripture?
Making them just like Satan?

Good intentioned men can come up with bad scripture interpretation and become just like Satan in the process.

The guys who got shut out of Heaven were exclaiming the truth when they said that they had done all sorts of righteous things. But Jesus said that He never knew them...was it because of bad scripture interpretation teaching?

Just something to ponder....

 

[dev553344]

Presumption!

"Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them"-- the many demon-spirits that are of antichrist" -- not because YOUR BIG MOUTH is great, but because He, Christ that is in you as among you (the DISCIPLES, not any presumptuous), is greater than he that is in the world>> the devil in everyone.

Now you boast the spirit of YOU that CLAIMS (never mind confesses) that the spirit is come in YOUR flesh and "in the spirit" -- the spirit that is yours.
But God is not your prisoner, your inmate-- He is free in Himself.

It sounds like you need to study under a proven Christian church. That way you'll have a sound doctrine. The bible only teaches that none are good except God. It doesn't teach that all are possessed by demons who aren't good.

Also please quote scripture here and give scriptural references? The scripture actually contradicts what you're teaching in this thread if I understand what you're saying, it says that God dwells in us as Christians:

1 John 4:4

Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world.

 

[Renniks]

In the above exchange in posts, the THREE STAGES in which the common denominator unfolds and exposes itself, are clearly distinguished...
The common denominator..
..in all heresy, antinomianism, humanism, liberalism, Catholicism, Sabbath-hate garble,
et al,
is not only free-will choice, but primarily and dominantly a false,

1. Holy Scripture abusing,

2. satanic,

3. Anti-christ - Roman Catholic,

demonic <Spirit in me>, claimed haughtily and defiantly to be the Spirit of Christ, God’s Holy Spirit.

So, I'm a little confused. If there's no free will choices than how can one choose to be a heretic?

 

[Renniks]

The Scriptures and GOD in the Scriptures declare there is NOT ONE with good in him, speaking of false prophets and false teachers. Or of demon spirits. They flourish and swarm in their myriads all over as in every human heart.

There's no one good in the flesh, or of the world, but we are not of the flesh or the world. We have the Spirit that overcomes the world, the flesh and the devil.

 

[marks]

I absolutely reject the whole idea. At best the result of having been saved is that the reborn man shall surely know his own sinfulness and lostness.

And cling more tightly to Jesus!



Much love!

 

[marks]

So, I'm a little confused. If there's no free will choices than how can one choose to be a heretic?

I think he said "not only" a free will choice, but also demonic.

Much love!