How long will the Man of Lawlessness Be Sitting in Your Temple?

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TLHKAJ

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I believe Antichrist will be a man, a world leader, who comes out of the people who destroyed the temple and city, and just like Judas, Satan will enter him

Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. A nephilim is nothing like that, my I ask why you think this?
As a victim and survivor of SRA (satanic ritual abuse) and MK Ultra, which I was born into, I was used on the altars from age 2 or 3 as a conduit for them to bring in more fallen ones. I was used on the altar at age 4 in high level rituals at the Mayan pyramids. These were conducted by 2 (physical bodied) nephilim. I was bound to the altar for 3 days wherein they opened portals and called in countless entities into our realm...in other words, modern day incursions, as it was in the days of Noah.

I know their goal is to open the abyss (CERN) and are looking for the "key" ...they have been and are preparing for the revealing of their "most illumined one" ...the antichrist. The nephilim are here, produced by fallen angels and human women.
 
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I am not Ignoring vs 4

why are you trying to pull a passage out of context?

Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.

And this man is first mentioned in Dan 7

19 “Then I wished to know the truth about the fourth beast, which was different from all the others, exceedingly dreadful, with its teeth of iron and its nails of bronze, which devoured, broke in pieces, and trampled the residue with its feet; 20 and the ten horns that were on its head, and the other horn which came up, before which three fell, namely, that horn which had eyes and a mouth which spoke pompous words, whose appearance was greater than his fellows.

21 “I was watching; and the same horn was making war against the saints, and prevailing against them, 22 until the Ancient of Days came, and a judgment was made in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came for the saints to possess the kingdom.


this is the same person.

your context in thess is off, that is a physical person. Ot the old sin nature,

Nope. I'm perfectly perfect. As you also did not address - the Old Man.
You are naturalizing Dan 7 and don't see the spiritual understanding.
Stay in II Thess - II Thess 1:10 of Jesus says, "He comes to be glorified IN THE SAINTS" -
Stay in the context of Thessalonians 1 and 2.

When you Put on the New Man - the Old Man will be destroyed.

It wont happen if your "living after the flesh" unto death (Rom 8:13).
 

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Satan sitting in the church showing he's god? Seems like a stretch to me.

You could just as well say Satan sit's in the temple in heaven. It seems to me just as unlikely.

I don't see God sharing His living space the Satan.

Much love!
So no putting off the Old Man and Putting on the New Man for you -
Just let the "prince of the power of the air: the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience" (EPh 2:2) have his way with you - to "steal kill and destroy".
 

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There are only two men - the Old Man and New Man.
Can't take much for the spiritual mind to figure it out.
You can "figure" much . . . however . . . what saith the Bible?

The two men are Adam and Christ, this is from 1 Corinthians 15.

When we are born again, we die to our flesh, the man born from Adam, as we become completely new, a child born from God, as in 2 Corinthians 5.

While we may exhibit behaviors of the old man remaining in our lives, the Bible attributes these to the workings of the flesh, should we fail to walk in the Spirit, as in Galatians 5.

But thoughts or behaviors which arise from the flesh should not be construed as the old man "sitting in the temple", that is, sharing the holy place in us with God, or, exerting some sort of power or force over us. Our flesh has been rendered completely powerless (Romans 6), and to think otherwise is deception.

I've heard this interpretation before, and variations of it, however, given that the passage doesn't really read that way, at least to me,

2 Thessalonians 2:1-10
1) Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2) That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3) Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5) Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6) And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7) For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10) And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

This section is begun as referencing Jesus' coming, and our being gathered to Him, that is, the end of the age, the Day of Christ.

Our wickedness is already revealed, it is our flesh. The restrainer restrains until that restraint is removed. Does the Holy Spirit stop producing fruit in us? "He who began a good work in you will complete it until the day of Christ Jesus." So, no. God continues to work good in us until the final day.

"all power and signs and lying wonders", this is about something very different, something prophesied by others, the abomination of desolation standing where it ought not to be. At which time, those in Judea are to flee. A temporal terrestrial event, not a spiritual condition.

Much love!
 
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So no putting off the Old Man and Putting on the New Man for you -

Why would you say that??

Just let the "prince of the power of the air: the spirit that now works in the children of disobedience" (EPh 2:2) have his way with you - to "steal kill and destroy".

Where is this coming from? Baseless accusations don't add to the discussion you know.

Much love!
 

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Yes and No.
The 'You' I confess, is the New Man, since I have the "testimony of Jesus" - Rev 12:11.
The New Man will destroy the Old Man; the Man of Lawlessness -
II Thess 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

It's all internal.
ERROR, the new man is the spirit, Psalms 51:10 "Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me."
but you and I still have on outter garment that is soiled with the stain of sin....... our flesh. until we're are changed at his coming out fight is in this flesh. this is why the comforter has come, to HELP us while in this house of flesh.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
 
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II Thessalonians 2:3-4
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.




When II Thess 2 is attempted to be taught, they seem to forget this -
I Cor 3:
16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
1260 days
Whose temple is the question. Good point though, people think a physical Temple in Jerusalem needs to be built first.
 

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Nope. I'm perfectly perfect. As you also did not address - the Old Man.
You are naturalizing Dan 7 and don't see the spiritual understanding.
Stay in II Thess - II Thess 1:10 of Jesus says, "He comes to be glorified IN THE SAINTS" -
Stay in the context of Thessalonians 1 and 2.

When you Put on the New Man - the Old Man will be destroyed.

It wont happen if your "living after the flesh" unto death (Rom 8:13).
The old man has nothing to do with Thess passage.

He will come. Just like Daniel 7 Dan 2 Rev 20 etc etc.

The OLD man is the old nature which you were born with. He did not come and take up residence in the temple of your body, He was there when your body was made the temple when you were born again.
 
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Yeah, well, "He appears unto them that look for him" - Heb 9:28

Are you looking in the right place? Are you looking at all?
What does that have to do with him defeating the man of sin when he returns?

When he returns every eye will see him, whether we look for him or not.
 
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II Thessalonians 2:3-4 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

When II Thess 2 is attempted to be taught, they seem to forget this - I Cor 3: 16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
It is amazing that anyone would take TWO UNRELATED PASSAGES and connect them together. The first passage is about a LITERAL future temple in Jerusalem where the Antichrist will sit claiming that he is God, while the second passage is about the METAPHORICAL temple of God, since the Holy Spirit indwells every believer.
 
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As a victim and survivor of SRA (satanic ritual abuse) and MK Ultra, which I was born into, I was used on the altars from age 2 or 3 as a conduit for them to bring in more fallen ones. I was used on the altar at age 4 in high level rituals at the Mayan pyramids. These were conducted by 2 (physical bodied) nephilim. I was bound to the altar for 3 days wherein they opened portals and called in countless entities into our realm...in other words, modern day incursions, as it was in the days of Noah.

I know their goal is to open the abyss (CERN) and are looking for the "key" ...they have been and are preparing for the revealing of their "most illumined one" ...the antichrist. The nephilim are here, produced by fallen angels and human women.

What do they look like? If they are here then we truly are in the days like Noah.
 
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Yes and No.
The 'You' I confess, is the New Man, since I have the "testimony of Jesus" - Rev 12:11.
The New Man will destroy the Old Man; the Man of Lawlessness -
II Thess 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

It's all internal.

Is this to say that you think of yourself as "the Lord"?

Much love!
 
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What do they look like? If they are here then we truly are in the days like Noah.
The 2 who presided over the Mayan rituals ... one was an upright lizard-serpent, tall as a man. The other was a man body with a doglike head ...very much like the "anubis" god of the dead (a bit taller than the other). But some look very human, although they have spiritual (evil, yet deceptively may appear "benevolent") powers.
 
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Quoting myself...
"I know their goal is to open the abyss (CERN) and are looking for the "key" ...they have been and are preparing for the revealing of their "most illumined one" ...the antichrist. The nephilim are here, produced by fallen angels and human women."

When I use the word "they" I am referring to the worldwide elite cult who serve "lucifer" (satan).

In relation to opening CERN the abyss...

Revelation 9 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹ And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. ² And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. ³ And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
 
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You follow the company line well. What a distortion.

Read it, it says, "HE SITTETH". No span of geological time involved at all.
I'm noticing everyone has their own thoughts, without addressing the clear language of the texts.

Greetings.

The surrounding text makes it apparent Paul is talking about a future event. The text reads:

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

This first sentence clearly suggests the Day has not come yet, and he was thus urging that they not to be deceived into thinking that it had.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for the apostasy shall not come except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

ὅτι ἐὰν μὴ ἔλθῃ ἡ ἀποστασία πρῶτον ἔλθῃ = "in that except the apostasy shall have come first" (third person subjunctive aorist active). This means that this entire narrative is talking about a future event, and thus involves a span of time.

Question: Out of curiosity, you wouldn't happen to be the former member "Available Light," would you?
 
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