What Is Marriage?

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Michael1985

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My own belief is that sex marriage. As for my opinion on whether Scripture allows sex outside of wedlock, I say technically, yes. I've hunted the Bible up and down and ultimately come to the position that waiting until marriage to have sex is simply assumed as a societal convention much like men having a beard. I do, however, believe that any couples that choose not to wait are to get married as soon as possible afterwards to prevent any possible problems.
 
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Hi April_Rose,

Marriage is a commitment, made under law, between two people to love and respect one another. To watch each other's back, and be there for each other during the bad times as well as the good.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
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Some stay single, and Catholic priests are single and don't have sex. Not that I agree that clergy can't have wives, because I don't. I think if clergy want wives then they should have them:

1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

I think Jesus stays out of relationships like that for the most part, unless invited in.
Oh that is definitely a thing I think they should change about the Catholic Church, priests should be able to get married.
 

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I suppose people interpret it differently. But I interpret it as confessing my sins, being baptized, receiving the holy ghost, taking the bread and wine, and doing good works because I love God and want to do as he desires and share in the fruits of the Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-25). Going to church and doing good works also eliminates temptations.

Revelation 19:7-8
"Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. "

Yeah, your post seems to cover what prepares us for the marriage to come.
 

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That's the point perhaps I should have made myself more clear. I'm talking about when you're in the engagement part of your relationship and you're planning on getting married.
Still, lots of people get to that point and part ways.
 

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I think it would have been better for you to say you believe how God did things was important not what we interpret the scriptures say. The scriptures show that when God took a rib from Adam and made the woman he brought him to the man. You can see from the scriptures that Adam and Eve were married right then. (Genesis 2:21-24) There's no evidence there was any sex involved until after they were expelled out of the garden of Eden. So if you have sex before you're married that's fornication



I'm pretty sure that Adam and Eve didn't have a typical wedding ceremony.



"I'll be done seen 'bout evrythang..." lol



Okay I stand corrected then but I was pretty close XD



Oh that is definitely a thing I think they should change about the Catholic Church, priests should be able to get married.




Yeah, I agree but maybe they feel like they wouldn't be as committed to God if they had a spouse and family. (I say spouse because I do believe that all Catholic priests are men but I'm not sure though. :confused:)
 
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Yeah, I agree but maybe they feel like they wouldn't be as committed to God if they had a spouse and family. (I say spouse because I do believe that all Catholic priests are men but I'm not sure though. :confused:)

Catholics are going off of Paul's teachings and feel that they don't need a spouse to be a servant of God, which Paul makes this clear, but I tend to disagree with even this scripture, I mean that would mean the end of the human species?

1 Corinthians 7:1-6


7 Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command.
 
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Maybe for some people it's better if they don't reproduce if ya know what I mean.
 
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Catholics are going off of Paul's teachings and feel that they don't need a spouse to be a servant of God, which Paul makes this clear, but I tend to disagree with even this scripture, I mean that would mean the end of the human species?

1 Corinthians 7:1-6


7 Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command.

At some point Christianity made Paul's letter to churches....scripture. He never said He was writing scripture. lol
Then what we have are one sided conversations because in some cases or most, he is responding to a letter from the churches.
In this case....“It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” This is a question or statement from the church in Corinth...to Paul. And he is responding to it.
 

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April_Rose said: I'm pretty sure that Adam and Eve didn't have a typical wedding ceremony.[/Quote\]

Well I never said that they had a typical wedding. I said that as far as what's written down in scripture you'll find nowhere in scripture that Adam and Eve had sex until after they were expelled from Eden. People who have sex before they're married is an act of sexual immorality.
 

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Well I never said that they had a typical wedding. I said that as far as what's written down in scripture you'll find nowhere in scripture that Adam and Eve had sex until after they were expelled from Eden. People who have sex before they're married is an act of sexual immorality.




True, but with Adam and Eve it was pretty much an arranged marriage. I mean they were the only two people on earth.
 
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True, but with Adam and Eve it was pretty much an arranged marriage. I mean they were the only two people on earth.
Arranged marriages were happening in humanity for thousands of years. It's only until the late 1800's and early 1900's that arranged marriages started disappearing.
 

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Arranged marriages were happening in humanity for thousands of years. It's only until the late 1800's and early 1900's that arranged marriages started disappearing.




Even countries like the US though?
 

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April_Rose said: "If God didn't want us to have an imagination, then He wouldn't have given it to us in the first place." -April_Rose

God gave us freewill too but that doesn't mean he gave us free will to abuse that free will. This is true also of our imagination. God didn't give us a brain to focus or imagine horrible, perverted things. That's an abuse of your imagination, abuse of your thoughts. We will have a thought that's wrong come into our minds but that doesn't mean we have to dwell on those thoughts.
 
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April_Rose said: Even countries like the US though?[/Quote\]

You think there have never been any arranged marriages in the U.S. how about I suggest you do some research on the subject.
 

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This is my sequel thread to "What Is Beauty?" located right here.



What Is Beauty?





Now the reason that this topic is in the debate column is because I already know that it's going to bring up a lot of controversy. Now, let me first start off by saying that when I say that I believe in sex before marriage I'm talking about the actual ceremony and wedding certificate. That means I believe that marriage comes from within and I believe that what God is really saying about we must not fornicate, is that we must not have one night stands and I do believe that is for our own good.





It could cause unwanted pregnancies and that would cause even further problems later on. So I take that to mean that we must be committed to a person that we know we're eventually going to marry anyways. Another question I want to bring up is an arranged marriage an actual marriage before God? I mean neither one of them is really in love or committed to the other one, so how can He expect them to have sexual desires for one another and not fall in love with anybody else? I guess that's more than one question but I'm just really curious about this.


Marriage according to the Bible is the act of intercourse. It is not a ceremony or license or ritual where vows are given. those simply authorize a man and woman to get married! The actual marriage takes place when the couple have sex!

So fornication is sex outside of marriage and two people become one flesh which is what marriage is!
 
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Even though that's an interesting way to look at it, wouldn't it actually be considered adultery though?


Adultery is when you have sex with someone elses spouse. Technically if a man goes to bed with a woman who is "not married" yet, they still are bedding down someone elses spouse. However if they have not actually married, then it is illicit or illegal sex and not the specific sin of adultery.
 
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Adultery is when you have sex with someone elses spouse. Technically if a man goes to bed with a woman who is "not married" yet, they still are bedding down someone elses spouse. However if they have not actually married, then it is illicit or illegal sex and not the specific sin of adultery.

Yes but the bible clearly spells out the sexually immoral as sinners. So that opens up other areas. Including prostitution, and sex outside of marriage according to Paul.
 

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Adultery is when you have sex with someone elses spouse. Technically if a man goes to bed with a woman who is "not married" yet, they still are bedding down someone elses spouse. However if they have not actually married, then it is illicit or illegal sex and not the specific sin of adultery.




Hmm,.. interesting perspective.
 

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Yes but the bible clearly spells out the sexually immoral as sinners. So that opens up other areas. Including prostitution, and sex outside of marriage according to Paul.




Somebody has to be extremely lonely and desperate if they want to make a living by having sex. :/